On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:51:15 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message


Ever wonder why Bush refuses to answer a simple question about why he
failed to show up for his physical and why he disobeyed direct orders
to do so? Apparently not.

Since the document in question that supposedly verifies your contention is
most likely bogus, I guess your question is moot.

Max

Except that his failure to take a physical and his suspension from
flight status is undisputed.

"felton" wrote in message

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:51:15 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message


Ever wonder why Bush refuses to answer a simple question about why he
failed to show up for his physical and why he disobeyed direct orders
to do so? Apparently not.

Since the document in question that supposedly verifies your contention
is
most likely bogus, I guess your question is moot.

Max

Except that his failure to take a physical and his suspension from
flight status is undisputed.

His record shows that he fulfilled his obligation (accumulated the necessary
number of points) every year of his term of duty, including the year in
question. He was turning to his political career at that point and chose
not to fly. In fact, he soon after requested an early discharge, which was
granted, to pursue his political ambitions.

And before you get your panties in a wad, Kerry also requested an early
discharge for the same reason. It also was granted.

Max

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:36:55 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"felton" wrote in message

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 04:51:15 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message


Ever wonder why Bush refuses to answer a simple question about why he
failed to show up for his physical and why he disobeyed direct orders
to do so? Apparently not.

Since the document in question that supposedly verifies your contention
is
most likely bogus, I guess your question is moot.

Max

Except that his failure to take a physical and his suspension from
flight status is undisputed.

His record shows that he fulfilled his obligation (accumulated the necessary
number of points) every year of his term of duty, including the year in
question. He was turning to his political career at that point and chose
not to fly. In fact, he soon after requested an early discharge, which was
granted, to pursue his political ambitions.

Oh, so you are one of those who believe he was in the position to
choose not to fly, and even choose not to show up. Well, obviously
that was the case, in *his* case, anyway.

And before you get your panties in a wad, Kerry also requested an early
discharge for the same reason. It also was granted.

Max

"felton" wrote in message

Oh, so you are one of those who believe he was in the position to
choose not to fly, and even choose not to show up. Well, obviously
that was the case, in *his* case, anyway.

How, pray tell, did Bush accumulate the necessary points to fulfill his
requirement that year if he "didn't show up?"

Max

In article .net,
Maxprop wrote:

"felton" wrote in message

Oh, so you are one of those who believe he was in the position to
choose not to fly, and even choose not to show up. Well, obviously
that was the case, in *his* case, anyway.

How, pray tell, did Bush accumulate the necessary points to fulfill his
requirement that year if he "didn't show up?"

Powerful friends who helped him shirk his duties, helped him overcome
any bad press he was going to get from his commander.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Powerful friends who helped him shirk his duties, helped him overcome
any bad press he was going to get from his commander.

In the several years prior to this supposed failure to report, he
accumulated ten to twenty times the number of points required to remain in
good stead in each year. He flew often. Isn't it just possible that he was
beginning to concentrate on his political career during that last year?

Max

On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 04:01:28 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Powerful friends who helped him shirk his duties, helped him overcome
any bad press he was going to get from his commander.

In the several years prior to this supposed failure to report, he
accumulated ten to twenty times the number of points required to remain in
good stead in each year. He flew often. Isn't it just possible that he was
beginning to concentrate on his political career during that last year?

Max

I don't believe anyone disputes the fact that he met the requirements
of a weekend warrior for the first four years of his six year
obligation. Why his father shipped him off to Alabama in 1972 is a
mystery, but by the accounts of the folks working on that campaign in
Alabama, it certainly wasn't because Bush was serious about "his
political career."

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20.../index_np.html

In the spring of 1972, George H.W. Bush phoned his friend and asked a
favor: Could Allison find a place on the Senate campaign he was
managing in Alabama for his troublesome eldest son, the 25-year-old
George W. Bush?

"The impression I had was that Georgie was raising a lot of hell in
Houston, getting in trouble and embarrassing the family, and they just
really wanted to get him out of Houston and under Jimmy's wing,"
Allison's widow, Linda, told me. "And Jimmy said, 'Sure.' He was so
loyal."

Linda Allison's story, never before published, contradicts the Bush
campaign's assertion that George W. Bush transferred from the Texas
Air National Guard to the Alabama National Guard in 1972 because he
received an irresistible offer to gain high-level experience on the
campaign of Bush family friend Winton "Red" Blount. In fact, according
to what Allison says her late husband told her, the younger Bush had
become a political liability for his father, who was then the United
States ambassador to the United Nations, and the family wanted him out
of Texas. "I think they wanted someone they trusted to keep an eye on
him."
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

When Bush returned to Houston, but not to his unit, he spent several
months doing volunteer work with inner city youth in Operation PULL,
work that sounds suspiciously like community service "volunteer" work
by someone who may well have gotten in trouble with his father, or,
more likely, the law. The rumored 1972 cocaine arrest and the
subsequent changing of his driver's license number connects the dots,
but is not, as yet, provable.

In article k.net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Powerful friends who helped him shirk his duties, helped him overcome
any bad press he was going to get from his commander.

In the several years prior to this supposed failure to report, he
accumulated ten to twenty times the number of points required to remain in
good stead in each year. He flew often. Isn't it just possible that he was
beginning to concentrate on his political career during that last year?

Who knows. The point is that he refuses to say. And, he disobeyed
direct orders.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:29:48 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"felton" wrote in message

Oh, so you are one of those who believe he was in the position to
choose not to fly, and even choose not to show up. Well, obviously
that was the case, in *his* case, anyway.

How, pray tell, did Bush accumulate the necessary points to fulfill his
requirement that year if he "didn't show up?"

Max


Certainly not by doing what he agreed to do when he signed up and what
the taxpayers had wasted $1million training him to do. It was largely
a paper shuffle and out the door.

One of the better, fairly concise summaries of GWB's days in the Guard
is at

http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/3671

In article .net,
Maxprop wrote:
Except that his failure to take a physical and his suspension from
flight status is undisputed.

His record shows that he fulfilled his obligation (accumulated the necessary
number of points) every year of his term of duty, including the year in
question. He was turning to his political career at that point and chose
not to fly. In fact, he soon after requested an early discharge, which was
granted, to pursue his political ambitions.

His records also show that he failed to show up for his physical, and
he's never said why. The records also show that he was given
preferential treatment by those higher up the food chain.

And before you get your panties in a wad, Kerry also requested an early
discharge for the same reason. It also was granted.

After he was wounded three times, which is why it was granted.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."