katysails wrote:
.... So it's water for you, bucko...DRINK THAT!

How could you be so cruel?

"Thom Stewart" wrote
You mean the "Doug" that recommends a Boom like a Grove Crane and a
Rigid Vang to match??

Which Doug is that? I believe it was Navvie who was trying to claim that
an "I" section boom would be stronger, it was Capt Mooron who said that
cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry to solid
vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.


You mean the "Doug" that moved up from a trailable Hunter to a full
blown Power Boat???

As opposed to your motorsailer?

Maybe he means the Doug who owned & raced custom 2-Tonner before he had
the trailerable Hunter... surely you're not falling into Boobsie's folly
of thinking that having the biggest boat means the best sailor? If that
were true I believe Bart would win... although maybe Oz1's fleet would
count for more...

I can't keep track, this newsgroup needs a Prime Minister. I nominate
Katysails. Ol' Thom can be the Minister of Liquid Resources.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Hey Doug,

That Storm heading for you looks bad!
Sail or power,man and beast looks like they better head for secure cover

What a time to get promoted to Capt. Good luck, old friend

Ole Thom

Thom Stewart wrote:
Hey Doug,

That Storm heading for you looks bad!

Yes it sure does!

Sail or power,man and beast looks like they better head for secure cover

We're in one of the best places to be for many miles around. If you
happen to pick up a copy of this months "Passagemaker" magazine, there's
an article in it about hurricane preparation that features our marina.


What a time to get promoted to Capt. Good luck, old friend

Thank you... about this time of year I reflect on how nice it would be
to live in a place where hurricanes are not such a threat. I couold sure
live with early sunsets, for example!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

I don't wanna be a Prime Minister...I wanna be the Empress.....
"DSK" wrote in message
news
katysails wrote:
.... So it's water for you, bucko...DRINK THAT!

How could you be so cruel?

"Thom Stewart" wrote
You mean the "Doug" that recommends a Boom like a Grove Crane and a
Rigid Vang to match??

Which Doug is that? I believe it was Navvie who was trying to claim that
an "I" section boom would be stronger, it was Capt Mooron who said that
cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry to solid
vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.


You mean the "Doug" that moved up from a trailable Hunter to a full
blown Power Boat???

As opposed to your motorsailer?

Maybe he means the Doug who owned & raced custom 2-Tonner before he had
the trailerable Hunter... surely you're not falling into Boobsie's folly
of thinking that having the biggest boat means the best sailor? If that
were true I believe Bart would win... although maybe Oz1's fleet would
count for more...

I can't keep track, this newsgroup needs a Prime Minister. I nominate
Katysails. Ol' Thom can be the Minister of Liquid Resources.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"katysails" wrote in message

it was Capt Mooron who said that
| cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry to solid
| vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.

**** You Doug.... where did he prove that?

I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a load. I proved
that even to Scotty .. who by the way agreed with me!

So.. BITE ME!

CM

Capt. Mooron wrote:
"katysails" wrote in message

it was Capt Mooron who said that
| cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry to solid
| vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.

**** You Doug.... where did he prove that?

I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a load. I proved
that even to Scotty .. who by the way agreed with me!

So.. BITE ME!


In Doug's world he's never wrong. Even cosines take on new meaning and I
beams are replaced by triangle box sections to save steel. It's
pointless trying to discuss any science or engineering with him.

Cheers

Tell you the truth... I like discussing any subject with either of you!

If nothing else you both keep me thinking !

....that alone places both of you in the top ranks of the group!

Probably lends much to the fact I'm prone to debate almost any topic of
interest with either of you.

Also explains why both of you are so much alike!

Now tell me again Nav.... can I dance or What!!?? :-)


CM

Capt. Mooron wrote:
Tell you the truth... I like discussing any subject with either of you!

If nothing else you both keep me thinking !

...that alone places both of you in the top ranks of the group!

Probably lends much to the fact I'm prone to debate almost any topic of
interest with either of you.

Also explains why both of you are so much alike!

Now tell me again Nav.... can I dance or What!!?? :-)


Well I'd call that a tango for Doug and Jive for me...

;-)

Cheers

it was Capt Mooron who said that
| cranes never had their booms & rams set up in similar geometry to solid
| vangs, and was Scotty who proved they do in fact.

Capt. Mooron wrote:
**** You Doug....

A little touchy, are we?

... where did he prove that?

:Scott Vernon
:alt.sailing.asa
:8/28/2004 11:10 AM
"Capt. Mooron" wrote

Quit toying with the damn boom.... look think of it this way... how
many
lifting devices utilize a support located under the boom at less
than 25% of
the boom length? NONE!


Wrong, kanook.
Have you never seen an engine crane?
A bascule type draw bridge?
Any hydraulic crane with the boom out?
An excavator?

need more?

Scotty





I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a load.

And that's wrong. It's not a case for *always*. Did you ever realize
that the tension on the topping lift was greater than the weight, and
the forces on the mast were also multiples of the weight load?

I don't think you tried to understand what I was trying to explain. I am
not a particularly good explainer, but your mind seems to be made up
regardless of the above facts.

DSK

DSK wrote:


I always said the topping lift was better situated to lift a load.


And that's wrong. It's not a case for *always*. Did you ever realize
that the tension on the topping lift was greater than the weight, and
the forces on the mast were also multiples of the weight load?

Did you ever realize the shear and bending forces on the boom are far
higher if a vang were used to lift the weight? That the vang attachemnt
to the boom is not desined for compression?

Cheers