You bet....

I've just heard they seem to have changed their tune and want to "talk"...

They are willing to drop the charges if we will "cease & desist" this
campaign.

Apparently this is not the first time such an incident has transpired with
this firm!!

You can guess our reply....

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
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I hope you will accept their "apologies" gracefully. What can be gained by
anything else? If you were to play hardball at this point, it will look bad
later when they say they "offered apologies and dropped charges, but nothing
was good enough."
"After all," they will say, "it is our responsibility to minimize pricing by
controlling loss, for the sake of our customers, no matter the reason."
Let it go.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
You bet....

I've just heard they seem to have changed their tune and want to "talk"...

They are willing to drop the charges if we will "cease & desist" this
campaign.

Apparently this is not the first time such an incident has transpired with
this firm!!

You can guess our reply....

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
| Are you allowed to picket in Canada?
|
| --
| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
| http://katysails.tripod.com
|
| "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
|
|
|
| ---
| Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
| Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
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|

It was explained to them at the time and they could have taken action then.
A short time later they attempted intimidation tactics to scare off the
family involved.

No Scout... this is just a sign of the fact we are having an effect on their
policy. I plan to make certain we have a written policy change from them...
apologies are easy when you don't mean them and dropping the charges are
easier when your lawyers advise you to.

Drop this?... no way!.... We'll stay the course until the white flag is
hoisted and the vessel stands down, comes about and meets our demands.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
| I hope you will accept their "apologies" gracefully. What can be gained by
| anything else? If you were to play hardball at this point, it will look
bad
| later when they say they "offered apologies and dropped charges, but
nothing
| was good enough."
| "After all," they will say, "it is our responsibility to minimize pricing
by
| controlling loss, for the sake of our customers, no matter the reason."
| Let it go.
| Scout
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| You bet....
|
| I've just heard they seem to have changed their tune and want to
"talk"...
|
| They are willing to drop the charges if we will "cease & desist" this
| campaign.
|
| Apparently this is not the first time such an incident has transpired
with
| this firm!!
|
| You can guess our reply....
|
| CM
|
| "katysails" wrote in message
| ...
| | Are you allowed to picket in Canada?
| |
| | --
| | katysails
| | s/v Chanteuse
| | Kirie Elite 32
| | http://katysails.tripod.com
| |
| | "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should
relax
| | and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
| |
| |
| |
| | ---
| | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
| | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
| | Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Well, I can understand your anger. If you've got the time to fight this one
that's great - but then why not go bigger? Why not go for changes in
Canada's protection laws for people with mental difficulties. What will stop
this from happening at some other store? It seems like you have the
necessary motivation, so why not think bigger?
Look at what happened to 86 year old reporter Mike Wallace in New York
yesterday (arrested and hand cuffed for having the audacity to ASK QUESTIONS
to a cop!). The abuse paradigm in our police systems has indeed trickled
down to all areas of security. Imagine 2 angry cops man-handling an old man
like that, and then reporting that he "was disrespectful and appeared close
to lunging." Jesus Christ, the paperwork they write can make anyone look
like a violent criminal, deserving of the beating the cops give them. Here's
what the Rev Casy said in "The Grapes of Wrath" when he was asked why the
cops arrested him: "I talked back."
John Steinbeck knew what he was talking about.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
It was explained to them at the time and they could have taken action
then.
A short time later they attempted intimidation tactics to scare off the
family involved.

No Scout... this is just a sign of the fact we are having an effect on
their
policy. I plan to make certain we have a written policy change from
them...
apologies are easy when you don't mean them and dropping the charges are
easier when your lawyers advise you to.

Drop this?... no way!.... We'll stay the course until the white flag is
hoisted and the vessel stands down, comes about and meets our demands.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
| I hope you will accept their "apologies" gracefully. What can be gained
by
| anything else? If you were to play hardball at this point, it will look
bad
| later when they say they "offered apologies and dropped charges, but
nothing
| was good enough."
| "After all," they will say, "it is our responsibility to minimize
pricing
by
| controlling loss, for the sake of our customers, no matter the reason."
| Let it go.
| Scout
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| You bet....
|
| I've just heard they seem to have changed their tune and want to
"talk"...
|
| They are willing to drop the charges if we will "cease & desist" this
| campaign.
|
| Apparently this is not the first time such an incident has transpired
with
| this firm!!
|
| You can guess our reply....
|
| CM
|
| "katysails" wrote in message
| ...
| | Are you allowed to picket in Canada?
| |
| | --
| | katysails
| | s/v Chanteuse
| | Kirie Elite 32
| | http://katysails.tripod.com
| |
| | "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should
relax
| | and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
| |
| |
| |
| | ---
| | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
| | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
| | Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

....and it happens if we let it Scout... only if we let it.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
| Well, I can understand your anger. If you've got the time to fight this
one
| that's great - but then why not go bigger? Why not go for changes in
| Canada's protection laws for people with mental difficulties. What will
stop
| this from happening at some other store? It seems like you have the
| necessary motivation, so why not think bigger?
| Look at what happened to 86 year old reporter Mike Wallace in New York
| yesterday (arrested and hand cuffed for having the audacity to ASK
QUESTIONS
| to a cop!). The abuse paradigm in our police systems has indeed trickled
| down to all areas of security. Imagine 2 angry cops man-handling an old
man
| like that, and then reporting that he "was disrespectful and appeared
close
| to lunging." Jesus Christ, the paperwork they write can make anyone look
| like a violent criminal, deserving of the beating the cops give them.
Here's
| what the Rev Casy said in "The Grapes of Wrath" when he was asked why the
| cops arrested him: "I talked back."
| John Steinbeck knew what he was talking about.
| Scout
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| It was explained to them at the time and they could have taken action
| then.
| A short time later they attempted intimidation tactics to scare off the
| family involved.
|
| No Scout... this is just a sign of the fact we are having an effect on
| their
| policy. I plan to make certain we have a written policy change from
| them...
| apologies are easy when you don't mean them and dropping the charges are
| easier when your lawyers advise you to.
|
| Drop this?... no way!.... We'll stay the course until the white flag is
| hoisted and the vessel stands down, comes about and meets our demands.
|
| CM
|
|
| "Scout" wrote in message
| ...
| | I hope you will accept their "apologies" gracefully. What can be
gained
| by
| | anything else? If you were to play hardball at this point, it will
look
| bad
| | later when they say they "offered apologies and dropped charges, but
| nothing
| | was good enough."
| | "After all," they will say, "it is our responsibility to minimize
| pricing
| by
| | controlling loss, for the sake of our customers, no matter the
reason."
| | Let it go.
| | Scout
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| | ...
| | You bet....
| |
| | I've just heard they seem to have changed their tune and want to
| "talk"...
| |
| | They are willing to drop the charges if we will "cease & desist"
this
| | campaign.
| |
| | Apparently this is not the first time such an incident has
transpired
| with
| | this firm!!
| |
| | You can guess our reply....
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "katysails" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Are you allowed to picket in Canada?
| | |
| | | --
| | | katysails
| | | s/v Chanteuse
| | | Kirie Elite 32
| | | http://katysails.tripod.com
| | |
| | | "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should
| relax
| | | and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | ---
| | | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
| | | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
| | | Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004
| | |
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