Okay... I'm really really ****ed off now..... I'm putting this here to let
everyone know what happened..... read the following and know why!!!

Both letters are an account of the occurrence that transpired..... I need to
hit these scumballs where it hurts the most... in the wallet!!

Damn but I'm just so friggin' ****ed off at this whole thing!

Anyways.. it's long... two letters written to our local paper.... both about
the same incident..... I'm starting a friggin' campaign. This woman is
devastated about this and has been in tears.

Any Help would be appreciated.

As Follows:

I am writing to you to express my disgust with the above company's
policy and actions following an incident that recently occurred at the
Zellers Store in the Bedford Place Mall. A friend of mine's elderly mother,
living on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal Cancer,
mistakenly walked out of the store with a pair of sunglasses without paying.
The security people stopped her and gave her a document that stated that she
would be charged with trespassing if she entered the mall during the next
six months. She forgot to tell her son (and legal guardian) what had
happened, and her son was unaware of the prior events or the trespassing
warning issued by the security people. A few weeks later, my friend's
mother went shopping at Zellers in the Bedford Place Mall again, and was
stopped by security after removing a few pieces of Kleenex from a full box
in the store. This time, security called the police and had the senior
citizen charged with trespassing. Her son explained to security that he was
unaware of the first incident or the earlier trespassing warning that they
had apparently issued, and further advised them of his mother's fragile
medical condition. He pointed out that, given the circumstances, the
additional stress associated with a court appearance for trespassing was the
last thing that his mother needed at this point. The security people
ignored this, deciding instead to file formal trespassing charges against
this 72 year old lady.

While I can understand that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall must protect
their merchandise from theft (normally done by troubled teenagers or
professional boosters), I cannot understand why they would persist in
prosecuting my friend's mother. If their actions were aimed at deterring
future incidents, under the circumstances their punitive action is severely
misguided in my opinion. If a four year old takes a chocolate bar from
Zellers without paying and is caught, do the security people issue a written
warning to the child and instruct them to pass the document on to their
parents? I am sure that if my friend had been advised of the first
incident he would have spoken to security immediately to explain his
mother's medical condition, and reassured security that he would accompany
his mother when she went shopping there in the future.

I have mentioned the above to several of my friends, and they are as
appalled as I am about the seemingly total lack of compassion and human
decency shown by Zellers and Bedford Place Mall security towards this
harmless older lady. I would welcome an investigation by your newspaper
into the above. Hopefully this would raise public awareness about the
mistreatment of defenseless senior citizens by some large corporations. I
would respectfully suggest that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall have done
more damage to their public image through their heavy-handed action than
they have to gain by prosecuting this "case".

My letter as follows:

I thought this might be of interest to you....

It deals with corporate policy and the mistreatment of the elderly!!

If you wish contacts to verify this please contact me and I will be happy to
liaise your request to the party involved. I'm taking this to task because
it irks me to think this is the sum total of respect and consideration I
might one day have to face when in my golden years of retirement.

I was informed by a friend that an acquaintance of mine's aged mother living
on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal Cancer goes to
Zellers Store at the Bedford Place Mall.. She had been at this branch
before. Apparently she tried on a pair of sunglasses and forgot they were in
her hand when she walked out... easily explainable but the store decided
that although she had been a regular customer, they would issue her a
document stating that if she returned to the store again within the next 6
months she would be charged with trespassing.

So a month or two later she returned to the store... apparently she forgot
to tell her son what had transpired... I wonder how that could have
happened! He only found out after she had been arrested and charged for
trespassing on Zellers property. They won't back down and are taking her to
court because it's "Policy". NICE!!! She not only has her current medical
difficulties to deal with.... but now thanks to this ignorant corporate
entity's 'Policy'.... she now this added stress to cope with!! Is this
indicative of the respect and value that ZELLERS places on it's elderly
customers?

Seriously now... I would expect this behaviour directed to adolescents or
career criminals... and it may not amount to anything in a court of law
considering the circumstances.... but the appalling lack of basic
consideration and common decent human values totally evades me. Even after
her son spoke to Zellers on her behalf and attempted to explain things... he
was given the "Company Policy" speech!

Enough is Enough!! I'm sick and tired of the manner in which these
corporate entities act without due regard to circumstance or respect.

Needless to say I'm ****ed and the objective of this letter is to let as
many people know what happened as feasibly possible.

I would appreciate any investigation and a full public accounting of
ZELLERS!!!

So that's it!
I'm friggin' livid about this incident...... I'm not putting up with this
crap from some pencil necked pimple faced wanna-be cop in a friggin' store
stealin' what little time this person has left!!!

For those unaware... ZELLERS is a Canadian Retail Chain like Wal-Mart...

CM

I'm appalled! I'm boycotting Zellers starting tomorrow.

Scotty


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Okay... I'm really really ****ed off now..... I'm putting this here to
let
everyone know what happened..... read the following and know why!!!

Both letters are an account of the occurrence that transpired..... I need
to
hit these scumballs where it hurts the most... in the wallet!!

Damn but I'm just so friggin' ****ed off at this whole thing!

Anyways.. it's long... two letters written to our local paper.... both
about
the same incident..... I'm starting a friggin' campaign. This woman is
devastated about this and has been in tears.

Any Help would be appreciated.

As Follows:

I am writing to you to express my disgust with the above company's
policy and actions following an incident that recently occurred at the
Zellers Store in the Bedford Place Mall. A friend of mine's elderly
mother,
living on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal
Cancer,
mistakenly walked out of the store with a pair of sunglasses without
paying.
The security people stopped her and gave her a document that stated that
she
would be charged with trespassing if she entered the mall during the next
six months. She forgot to tell her son (and legal guardian) what had
happened, and her son was unaware of the prior events or the trespassing
warning issued by the security people. A few weeks later, my friend's
mother went shopping at Zellers in the Bedford Place Mall again, and was
stopped by security after removing a few pieces of Kleenex from a full box
in the store. This time, security called the police and had the senior
citizen charged with trespassing. Her son explained to security that he
was
unaware of the first incident or the earlier trespassing warning that they
had apparently issued, and further advised them of his mother's fragile
medical condition. He pointed out that, given the circumstances, the
additional stress associated with a court appearance for trespassing was
the
last thing that his mother needed at this point. The security people
ignored this, deciding instead to file formal trespassing charges against
this 72 year old lady.

While I can understand that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall must
protect
their merchandise from theft (normally done by troubled teenagers or
professional boosters), I cannot understand why they would persist in
prosecuting my friend's mother. If their actions were aimed at deterring
future incidents, under the circumstances their punitive action is
severely
misguided in my opinion. If a four year old takes a chocolate bar from
Zellers without paying and is caught, do the security people issue a
written
warning to the child and instruct them to pass the document on to their
parents? I am sure that if my friend had been advised of the first
incident he would have spoken to security immediately to explain his
mother's medical condition, and reassured security that he would accompany
his mother when she went shopping there in the future.

I have mentioned the above to several of my friends, and they are as
appalled as I am about the seemingly total lack of compassion and human
decency shown by Zellers and Bedford Place Mall security towards this
harmless older lady. I would welcome an investigation by your newspaper
into the above. Hopefully this would raise public awareness about the
mistreatment of defenseless senior citizens by some large corporations. I
would respectfully suggest that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall have
done
more damage to their public image through their heavy-handed action than
they have to gain by prosecuting this "case".

My letter as follows:

I thought this might be of interest to you....

It deals with corporate policy and the mistreatment of the elderly!!

If you wish contacts to verify this please contact me and I will be happy
to
liaise your request to the party involved. I'm taking this to task because
it irks me to think this is the sum total of respect and consideration I
might one day have to face when in my golden years of retirement.

I was informed by a friend that an acquaintance of mine's aged mother
living
on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal Cancer goes
to
Zellers Store at the Bedford Place Mall.. She had been at this branch
before. Apparently she tried on a pair of sunglasses and forgot they were
in
her hand when she walked out... easily explainable but the store decided
that although she had been a regular customer, they would issue her a
document stating that if she returned to the store again within the next 6
months she would be charged with trespassing.

So a month or two later she returned to the store... apparently she forgot
to tell her son what had transpired... I wonder how that could have
happened! He only found out after she had been arrested and charged for
trespassing on Zellers property. They won't back down and are taking her
to
court because it's "Policy". NICE!!! She not only has her current medical
difficulties to deal with.... but now thanks to this ignorant corporate
entity's 'Policy'.... she now this added stress to cope with!! Is this
indicative of the respect and value that ZELLERS places on it's elderly
customers?

Seriously now... I would expect this behaviour directed to adolescents or
career criminals... and it may not amount to anything in a court of law
considering the circumstances.... but the appalling lack of basic
consideration and common decent human values totally evades me. Even after
her son spoke to Zellers on her behalf and attempted to explain things...
he
was given the "Company Policy" speech!

Enough is Enough!! I'm sick and tired of the manner in which these
corporate entities act without due regard to circumstance or respect.

Needless to say I'm ****ed and the objective of this letter is to let as
many people know what happened as feasibly possible.

I would appreciate any investigation and a full public accounting of
ZELLERS!!!

So that's it!
I'm friggin' livid about this incident...... I'm not putting up with this
crap from some pencil necked pimple faced wanna-be cop in a friggin' store
stealin' what little time this person has left!!!

For those unaware... ZELLERS is a Canadian Retail Chain like Wal-Mart...

CM

You best never buy from those assholes Scotty.... next thing they'll be
locking you up at 90 for stealing a look at the cashier!

Seriously Man... the Lady in question has months to live..... someone has
to say ENOUGH!

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| I'm appalled! I'm boycotting Zellers starting tomorrow.
|
| Scotty
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Okay... I'm really really ****ed off now..... I'm putting this here to
| let
| everyone know what happened..... read the following and know why!!!
|
| Both letters are an account of the occurrence that transpired..... I
need
| to
| hit these scumballs where it hurts the most... in the wallet!!
|
| Damn but I'm just so friggin' ****ed off at this whole thing!
|
| Anyways.. it's long... two letters written to our local paper.... both
| about
| the same incident..... I'm starting a friggin' campaign. This woman is
| devastated about this and has been in tears.
|
| Any Help would be appreciated.
|
| As Follows:
|
| I am writing to you to express my disgust with the above company's
| policy and actions following an incident that recently occurred at the
| Zellers Store in the Bedford Place Mall. A friend of mine's elderly
| mother,
| living on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal
| Cancer,
| mistakenly walked out of the store with a pair of sunglasses without
| paying.
| The security people stopped her and gave her a document that stated that
| she
| would be charged with trespassing if she entered the mall during the
next
| six months. She forgot to tell her son (and legal guardian) what had
| happened, and her son was unaware of the prior events or the trespassing
| warning issued by the security people. A few weeks later, my friend's
| mother went shopping at Zellers in the Bedford Place Mall again, and was
| stopped by security after removing a few pieces of Kleenex from a full
box
| in the store. This time, security called the police and had the senior
| citizen charged with trespassing. Her son explained to security that he
| was
| unaware of the first incident or the earlier trespassing warning that
they
| had apparently issued, and further advised them of his mother's fragile
| medical condition. He pointed out that, given the circumstances, the
| additional stress associated with a court appearance for trespassing was
| the
| last thing that his mother needed at this point. The security people
| ignored this, deciding instead to file formal trespassing charges
against
| this 72 year old lady.
|
| While I can understand that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall must
| protect
| their merchandise from theft (normally done by troubled teenagers or
| professional boosters), I cannot understand why they would persist in
| prosecuting my friend's mother. If their actions were aimed at
deterring
| future incidents, under the circumstances their punitive action is
| severely
| misguided in my opinion. If a four year old takes a chocolate bar from
| Zellers without paying and is caught, do the security people issue a
| written
| warning to the child and instruct them to pass the document on to their
| parents? I am sure that if my friend had been advised of the first
| incident he would have spoken to security immediately to explain his
| mother's medical condition, and reassured security that he would
accompany
| his mother when she went shopping there in the future.
|
| I have mentioned the above to several of my friends, and they are as
| appalled as I am about the seemingly total lack of compassion and human
| decency shown by Zellers and Bedford Place Mall security towards this
| harmless older lady. I would welcome an investigation by your
newspaper
| into the above. Hopefully this would raise public awareness about the
| mistreatment of defenseless senior citizens by some large corporations.
I
| would respectfully suggest that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall have
| done
| more damage to their public image through their heavy-handed action than
| they have to gain by prosecuting this "case".
|
| My letter as follows:
|
| I thought this might be of interest to you....
|
| It deals with corporate policy and the mistreatment of the elderly!!
|
| If you wish contacts to verify this please contact me and I will be
happy
| to
| liaise your request to the party involved. I'm taking this to task
because
| it irks me to think this is the sum total of respect and consideration I
| might one day have to face when in my golden years of retirement.
|
| I was informed by a friend that an acquaintance of mine's aged mother
| living
| on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal Cancer
goes
| to
| Zellers Store at the Bedford Place Mall.. She had been at this branch
| before. Apparently she tried on a pair of sunglasses and forgot they
were
| in
| her hand when she walked out... easily explainable but the store
decided
| that although she had been a regular customer, they would issue her a
| document stating that if she returned to the store again within the next
6
| months she would be charged with trespassing.
|
| So a month or two later she returned to the store... apparently she
forgot
| to tell her son what had transpired... I wonder how that could have
| happened! He only found out after she had been arrested and charged
for
| trespassing on Zellers property. They won't back down and are taking her
| to
| court because it's "Policy". NICE!!! She not only has her current
medical
| difficulties to deal with.... but now thanks to this ignorant corporate
| entity's 'Policy'.... she now this added stress to cope with!! Is this
| indicative of the respect and value that ZELLERS places on it's elderly
| customers?
|
| Seriously now... I would expect this behaviour directed to adolescents
or
| career criminals... and it may not amount to anything in a court of law
| considering the circumstances.... but the appalling lack of basic
| consideration and common decent human values totally evades me. Even
after
| her son spoke to Zellers on her behalf and attempted to explain
things...
| he
| was given the "Company Policy" speech!
|
| Enough is Enough!! I'm sick and tired of the manner in which these
| corporate entities act without due regard to circumstance or respect.
|
| Needless to say I'm ****ed and the objective of this letter is to let as
| many people know what happened as feasibly possible.
|
| I would appreciate any investigation and a full public accounting of
| ZELLERS!!!
|
| So that's it!
| I'm friggin' livid about this incident...... I'm not putting up with
this
| crap from some pencil necked pimple faced wanna-be cop in a friggin'
store
| stealin' what little time this person has left!!!
|
| For those unaware... ZELLERS is a Canadian Retail Chain like Wal-Mart...
|
| CM
|
|
|
|
|

While Zeller's is totally out of their minds for proceeding with this, I'd
still like to ask: Why is this woman walking around unassisted and unaided?
Why is she going to the store by herself when she is diagnosed as having
Alzheimer's? There is some fault on the families part here...she has become
a danger to herself and her family needs to start taking some responsibility
for her before there is a serious accident.

--
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s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

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One son to look after her... it's a learning experience... he's coping as
best he can.... he was unaware of the prior incident. Does the term
"Compassion" or "Empathy" ring a bell?
It should have been handled with more discretion than having the local
constabulary called and having the lady arrested. She was in tears without
understanding why it was happening to her. Don't blame the son.. he has
enough on his plate looking after his mother. He tried to explain it to the
security staff... they would have nothing to do with it. These are not are
not wealthy people. This is not the USA
This is Canada... we help elderly people across the street... we don't kick
them out onto oncoming traffic. This is not a high crime area..... many
seniors live around the area.

No Katy... this is fault of the store. It's insane!

CM






"katysails" wrote in message
...
| While Zeller's is totally out of their minds for proceeding with this, I'd
| still like to ask: Why is this woman walking around unassisted and
unaided?
| Why is she going to the store by herself when she is diagnosed as having
| Alzheimer's? There is some fault on the families part here...she has
become
| a danger to herself and her family needs to start taking some
responsibility
| for her before there is a serious accident.
|
| --
| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
| http://katysails.tripod.com
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

One son to look after her... it's a learning experience... he's coping as
best he can.... he was unaware of the prior incident. Does the term
"Compassion" or "Empathy" ring a bell?

My father, now deceased, suffered a CVA (stroke) in the mid-90s. Following
his recovery, he became somewhat disoriented and occasionally confused. I,
like the woman's son, was doing my best to juggle a career, a family, and an
ailing father living in a town some 25 miles distant. My ultimate choice
was to place him in a retirement center. Eventually his condition
exacerbated to the point that he had to be placed in a nursing facility. It
was a tough decision, but perhaps one the woman's son will have to make
sooner or later.

Max

Granted... but she has maybe 6 months tops to live..... he won't put her in
home or palliative care until absolutely required.

If we complacently lie down and take this abuse from the corporates....
then we deserve the treatment we get. I for one will not stand for it.

That have already threatened her with a team of lawyers... so we have a
defense fund being set up.... let's see who can hire the best weasel and
what happens when the media dogs find this choice bit of bone to gnaw on.

CM

"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
|
| One son to look after her... it's a learning experience... he's coping
as
| best he can.... he was unaware of the prior incident. Does the term
| "Compassion" or "Empathy" ring a bell?
|
| My father, now deceased, suffered a CVA (stroke) in the mid-90s.
Following
| his recovery, he became somewhat disoriented and occasionally confused.
I,
| like the woman's son, was doing my best to juggle a career, a family, and
an
| ailing father living in a town some 25 miles distant. My ultimate choice
| was to place him in a retirement center. Eventually his condition
| exacerbated to the point that he had to be placed in a nursing facility.
It
| was a tough decision, but perhaps one the woman's son will have to make
| sooner or later.
|
| Max
|
|
|
|

Mooron,
just send all this stuff to the US Yellow Hournalism Corps (headed by a
Canadian, BTW)....

--
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s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
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he was unaware of the prior incident. Does the term
"Compassion" or "Empathy" ring a bell?

Yes, it does....learning experience...with someone's life? My God...My
m-i-l was showing signs of losing her hearings and we took immediate action
to make sure she was safe. First, she came here until she couldn't cope on
her own at all and then she went to assisted living...You wouldn't allow
your 4 year old child to take themselves to the store and that's what this
man did...he allowed his poor mother to try to wander around town in a
conused state. You forget where I work and what I see evberyday. Yes, I
have great empathy for the poor lady. Her son is an asshole.
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No Katy... this was 2 separate incidents.... she has become progressively
worse in the last month. He was with her both times. The first time it
happened he was not within proximity to know what happened since he believed
she was safe to wander the store in mid day..and apparently she felt too
embarrassed to tell him. The second time he explained to the security staff
about her condition... they ignored him and filed charges.. having her
arrested.

Great that you can have the family and currency to afford the care you
undertook with your MIL.... it's unfortunate that my friend had to give up
his job to look after his mother and that they don't have your financial
resources.

I'm looking after my parents and can tell you that they often refuse to bend
on requests. That doubles my work but I have a brother and family nearby to
assist. This man has nobody to help him.

....and yes Katy... it is indeed a learning experience, unfortunately the
curve is short due to the fact she has terminal cancer and a life expectancy
of months.

I personally think the whole affair could have been avoided with an
application of common sense.... but I'm elated that your good Christian
values can find fault in her son!

CM



"katysails" wrote in message
...
|
| he was unaware of the prior incident. Does the term
| "Compassion" or "Empathy" ring a bell?
|
| Yes, it does....learning experience...with someone's life? My God...My
| m-i-l was showing signs of losing her hearings and we took immediate
action
| to make sure she was safe. First, she came here until she couldn't cope
on
| her own at all and then she went to assisted living...You wouldn't allow
| your 4 year old child to take themselves to the store and that's what this
| man did...he allowed his poor mother to try to wander around town in a
| conused state. You forget where I work and what I see evberyday. Yes, I
| have great empathy for the poor lady. Her son is an asshole.
| --
| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
| http://katysails.tripod.com
|
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