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OT - Elder Mistreatment
Okay... I'm really really ****ed off now..... I'm putting this here to let
everyone know what happened..... read the following and know why!!! Both letters are an account of the occurrence that transpired..... I need to hit these scumballs where it hurts the most... in the wallet!! Damn but I'm just so friggin' ****ed off at this whole thing! Anyways.. it's long... two letters written to our local paper.... both about the same incident..... I'm starting a friggin' campaign. This woman is devastated about this and has been in tears. Any Help would be appreciated. As Follows: I am writing to you to express my disgust with the above company's policy and actions following an incident that recently occurred at the Zellers Store in the Bedford Place Mall. A friend of mine's elderly mother, living on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal Cancer, mistakenly walked out of the store with a pair of sunglasses without paying. The security people stopped her and gave her a document that stated that she would be charged with trespassing if she entered the mall during the next six months. She forgot to tell her son (and legal guardian) what had happened, and her son was unaware of the prior events or the trespassing warning issued by the security people. A few weeks later, my friend's mother went shopping at Zellers in the Bedford Place Mall again, and was stopped by security after removing a few pieces of Kleenex from a full box in the store. This time, security called the police and had the senior citizen charged with trespassing. Her son explained to security that he was unaware of the first incident or the earlier trespassing warning that they had apparently issued, and further advised them of his mother's fragile medical condition. He pointed out that, given the circumstances, the additional stress associated with a court appearance for trespassing was the last thing that his mother needed at this point. The security people ignored this, deciding instead to file formal trespassing charges against this 72 year old lady. While I can understand that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall must protect their merchandise from theft (normally done by troubled teenagers or professional boosters), I cannot understand why they would persist in prosecuting my friend's mother. If their actions were aimed at deterring future incidents, under the circumstances their punitive action is severely misguided in my opinion. If a four year old takes a chocolate bar from Zellers without paying and is caught, do the security people issue a written warning to the child and instruct them to pass the document on to their parents? I am sure that if my friend had been advised of the first incident he would have spoken to security immediately to explain his mother's medical condition, and reassured security that he would accompany his mother when she went shopping there in the future. I have mentioned the above to several of my friends, and they are as appalled as I am about the seemingly total lack of compassion and human decency shown by Zellers and Bedford Place Mall security towards this harmless older lady. I would welcome an investigation by your newspaper into the above. Hopefully this would raise public awareness about the mistreatment of defenseless senior citizens by some large corporations. I would respectfully suggest that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall have done more damage to their public image through their heavy-handed action than they have to gain by prosecuting this "case". My letter as follows: I thought this might be of interest to you.... It deals with corporate policy and the mistreatment of the elderly!! If you wish contacts to verify this please contact me and I will be happy to liaise your request to the party involved. I'm taking this to task because it irks me to think this is the sum total of respect and consideration I might one day have to face when in my golden years of retirement. I was informed by a friend that an acquaintance of mine's aged mother living on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal Cancer goes to Zellers Store at the Bedford Place Mall.. She had been at this branch before. Apparently she tried on a pair of sunglasses and forgot they were in her hand when she walked out... easily explainable but the store decided that although she had been a regular customer, they would issue her a document stating that if she returned to the store again within the next 6 months she would be charged with trespassing. So a month or two later she returned to the store... apparently she forgot to tell her son what had transpired... I wonder how that could have happened! He only found out after she had been arrested and charged for trespassing on Zellers property. They won't back down and are taking her to court because it's "Policy". NICE!!! She not only has her current medical difficulties to deal with.... but now thanks to this ignorant corporate entity's 'Policy'.... she now this added stress to cope with!! Is this indicative of the respect and value that ZELLERS places on it's elderly customers? Seriously now... I would expect this behaviour directed to adolescents or career criminals... and it may not amount to anything in a court of law considering the circumstances.... but the appalling lack of basic consideration and common decent human values totally evades me. Even after her son spoke to Zellers on her behalf and attempted to explain things... he was given the "Company Policy" speech! Enough is Enough!! I'm sick and tired of the manner in which these corporate entities act without due regard to circumstance or respect. Needless to say I'm ****ed and the objective of this letter is to let as many people know what happened as feasibly possible. I would appreciate any investigation and a full public accounting of ZELLERS!!! So that's it! I'm friggin' livid about this incident...... I'm not putting up with this crap from some pencil necked pimple faced wanna-be cop in a friggin' store stealin' what little time this person has left!!! For those unaware... ZELLERS is a Canadian Retail Chain like Wal-Mart... CM |
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I'm appalled! I'm boycotting Zellers starting tomorrow.
Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ... Okay... I'm really really ****ed off now..... I'm putting this here to let everyone know what happened..... read the following and know why!!! Both letters are an account of the occurrence that transpired..... I need to hit these scumballs where it hurts the most... in the wallet!! Damn but I'm just so friggin' ****ed off at this whole thing! Anyways.. it's long... two letters written to our local paper.... both about the same incident..... I'm starting a friggin' campaign. This woman is devastated about this and has been in tears. Any Help would be appreciated. As Follows: I am writing to you to express my disgust with the above company's policy and actions following an incident that recently occurred at the Zellers Store in the Bedford Place Mall. A friend of mine's elderly mother, living on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal Cancer, mistakenly walked out of the store with a pair of sunglasses without paying. The security people stopped her and gave her a document that stated that she would be charged with trespassing if she entered the mall during the next six months. She forgot to tell her son (and legal guardian) what had happened, and her son was unaware of the prior events or the trespassing warning issued by the security people. A few weeks later, my friend's mother went shopping at Zellers in the Bedford Place Mall again, and was stopped by security after removing a few pieces of Kleenex from a full box in the store. This time, security called the police and had the senior citizen charged with trespassing. Her son explained to security that he was unaware of the first incident or the earlier trespassing warning that they had apparently issued, and further advised them of his mother's fragile medical condition. He pointed out that, given the circumstances, the additional stress associated with a court appearance for trespassing was the last thing that his mother needed at this point. The security people ignored this, deciding instead to file formal trespassing charges against this 72 year old lady. While I can understand that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall must protect their merchandise from theft (normally done by troubled teenagers or professional boosters), I cannot understand why they would persist in prosecuting my friend's mother. If their actions were aimed at deterring future incidents, under the circumstances their punitive action is severely misguided in my opinion. If a four year old takes a chocolate bar from Zellers without paying and is caught, do the security people issue a written warning to the child and instruct them to pass the document on to their parents? I am sure that if my friend had been advised of the first incident he would have spoken to security immediately to explain his mother's medical condition, and reassured security that he would accompany his mother when she went shopping there in the future. I have mentioned the above to several of my friends, and they are as appalled as I am about the seemingly total lack of compassion and human decency shown by Zellers and Bedford Place Mall security towards this harmless older lady. I would welcome an investigation by your newspaper into the above. Hopefully this would raise public awareness about the mistreatment of defenseless senior citizens by some large corporations. I would respectfully suggest that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall have done more damage to their public image through their heavy-handed action than they have to gain by prosecuting this "case". My letter as follows: I thought this might be of interest to you.... It deals with corporate policy and the mistreatment of the elderly!! If you wish contacts to verify this please contact me and I will be happy to liaise your request to the party involved. I'm taking this to task because it irks me to think this is the sum total of respect and consideration I might one day have to face when in my golden years of retirement. I was informed by a friend that an acquaintance of mine's aged mother living on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal Cancer goes to Zellers Store at the Bedford Place Mall.. She had been at this branch before. Apparently she tried on a pair of sunglasses and forgot they were in her hand when she walked out... easily explainable but the store decided that although she had been a regular customer, they would issue her a document stating that if she returned to the store again within the next 6 months she would be charged with trespassing. So a month or two later she returned to the store... apparently she forgot to tell her son what had transpired... I wonder how that could have happened! He only found out after she had been arrested and charged for trespassing on Zellers property. They won't back down and are taking her to court because it's "Policy". NICE!!! She not only has her current medical difficulties to deal with.... but now thanks to this ignorant corporate entity's 'Policy'.... she now this added stress to cope with!! Is this indicative of the respect and value that ZELLERS places on it's elderly customers? Seriously now... I would expect this behaviour directed to adolescents or career criminals... and it may not amount to anything in a court of law considering the circumstances.... but the appalling lack of basic consideration and common decent human values totally evades me. Even after her son spoke to Zellers on her behalf and attempted to explain things... he was given the "Company Policy" speech! Enough is Enough!! I'm sick and tired of the manner in which these corporate entities act without due regard to circumstance or respect. Needless to say I'm ****ed and the objective of this letter is to let as many people know what happened as feasibly possible. I would appreciate any investigation and a full public accounting of ZELLERS!!! So that's it! I'm friggin' livid about this incident...... I'm not putting up with this crap from some pencil necked pimple faced wanna-be cop in a friggin' store stealin' what little time this person has left!!! For those unaware... ZELLERS is a Canadian Retail Chain like Wal-Mart... CM |
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You best never buy from those assholes Scotty.... next thing they'll be
locking you up at 90 for stealing a look at the cashier! Seriously Man... the Lady in question has months to live..... someone has to say ENOUGH! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... | I'm appalled! I'm boycotting Zellers starting tomorrow. | | Scotty | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | ... | Okay... I'm really really ****ed off now..... I'm putting this here to | let | everyone know what happened..... read the following and know why!!! | | Both letters are an account of the occurrence that transpired..... I need | to | hit these scumballs where it hurts the most... in the wallet!! | | Damn but I'm just so friggin' ****ed off at this whole thing! | | Anyways.. it's long... two letters written to our local paper.... both | about | the same incident..... I'm starting a friggin' campaign. This woman is | devastated about this and has been in tears. | | Any Help would be appreciated. | | As Follows: | | I am writing to you to express my disgust with the above company's | policy and actions following an incident that recently occurred at the | Zellers Store in the Bedford Place Mall. A friend of mine's elderly | mother, | living on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal | Cancer, | mistakenly walked out of the store with a pair of sunglasses without | paying. | The security people stopped her and gave her a document that stated that | she | would be charged with trespassing if she entered the mall during the next | six months. She forgot to tell her son (and legal guardian) what had | happened, and her son was unaware of the prior events or the trespassing | warning issued by the security people. A few weeks later, my friend's | mother went shopping at Zellers in the Bedford Place Mall again, and was | stopped by security after removing a few pieces of Kleenex from a full box | in the store. This time, security called the police and had the senior | citizen charged with trespassing. Her son explained to security that he | was | unaware of the first incident or the earlier trespassing warning that they | had apparently issued, and further advised them of his mother's fragile | medical condition. He pointed out that, given the circumstances, the | additional stress associated with a court appearance for trespassing was | the | last thing that his mother needed at this point. The security people | ignored this, deciding instead to file formal trespassing charges against | this 72 year old lady. | | While I can understand that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall must | protect | their merchandise from theft (normally done by troubled teenagers or | professional boosters), I cannot understand why they would persist in | prosecuting my friend's mother. If their actions were aimed at deterring | future incidents, under the circumstances their punitive action is | severely | misguided in my opinion. If a four year old takes a chocolate bar from | Zellers without paying and is caught, do the security people issue a | written | warning to the child and instruct them to pass the document on to their | parents? I am sure that if my friend had been advised of the first | incident he would have spoken to security immediately to explain his | mother's medical condition, and reassured security that he would accompany | his mother when she went shopping there in the future. | | I have mentioned the above to several of my friends, and they are as | appalled as I am about the seemingly total lack of compassion and human | decency shown by Zellers and Bedford Place Mall security towards this | harmless older lady. I would welcome an investigation by your newspaper | into the above. Hopefully this would raise public awareness about the | mistreatment of defenseless senior citizens by some large corporations. I | would respectfully suggest that Zellers and the Bedford Place Mall have | done | more damage to their public image through their heavy-handed action than | they have to gain by prosecuting this "case". | | My letter as follows: | | I thought this might be of interest to you.... | | It deals with corporate policy and the mistreatment of the elderly!! | | If you wish contacts to verify this please contact me and I will be happy | to | liaise your request to the party involved. I'm taking this to task because | it irks me to think this is the sum total of respect and consideration I | might one day have to face when in my golden years of retirement. | | I was informed by a friend that an acquaintance of mine's aged mother | living | on a fixed income and suffering from Alzheimer's and Terminal Cancer goes | to | Zellers Store at the Bedford Place Mall.. She had been at this branch | before. Apparently she tried on a pair of sunglasses and forgot they were | in | her hand when she walked out... easily explainable but the store decided | that although she had been a regular customer, they would issue her a | document stating that if she returned to the store again within the next 6 | months she would be charged with trespassing. | | So a month or two later she returned to the store... apparently she forgot | to tell her son what had transpired... I wonder how that could have | happened! He only found out after she had been arrested and charged for | trespassing on Zellers property. They won't back down and are taking her | to | court because it's "Policy". NICE!!! She not only has her current medical | difficulties to deal with.... but now thanks to this ignorant corporate | entity's 'Policy'.... she now this added stress to cope with!! Is this | indicative of the respect and value that ZELLERS places on it's elderly | customers? | | Seriously now... I would expect this behaviour directed to adolescents or | career criminals... and it may not amount to anything in a court of law | considering the circumstances.... but the appalling lack of basic | consideration and common decent human values totally evades me. Even after | her son spoke to Zellers on her behalf and attempted to explain things... | he | was given the "Company Policy" speech! | | Enough is Enough!! I'm sick and tired of the manner in which these | corporate entities act without due regard to circumstance or respect. | | Needless to say I'm ****ed and the objective of this letter is to let as | many people know what happened as feasibly possible. | | I would appreciate any investigation and a full public accounting of | ZELLERS!!! | | So that's it! | I'm friggin' livid about this incident...... I'm not putting up with this | crap from some pencil necked pimple faced wanna-be cop in a friggin' store | stealin' what little time this person has left!!! | | For those unaware... ZELLERS is a Canadian Retail Chain like Wal-Mart... | | CM | | | | | |
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While Zeller's is totally out of their minds for proceeding with this, I'd
still like to ask: Why is this woman walking around unassisted and unaided? Why is she going to the store by herself when she is diagnosed as having Alzheimer's? There is some fault on the families part here...she has become a danger to herself and her family needs to start taking some responsibility for her before there is a serious accident. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
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One son to look after her... it's a learning experience... he's coping as
best he can.... he was unaware of the prior incident. Does the term "Compassion" or "Empathy" ring a bell? It should have been handled with more discretion than having the local constabulary called and having the lady arrested. She was in tears without understanding why it was happening to her. Don't blame the son.. he has enough on his plate looking after his mother. He tried to explain it to the security staff... they would have nothing to do with it. These are not are not wealthy people. This is not the USA This is Canada... we help elderly people across the street... we don't kick them out onto oncoming traffic. This is not a high crime area..... many seniors live around the area. No Katy... this is fault of the store. It's insane! CM "katysails" wrote in message ... | While Zeller's is totally out of their minds for proceeding with this, I'd | still like to ask: Why is this woman walking around unassisted and unaided? | Why is she going to the store by herself when she is diagnosed as having | Alzheimer's? There is some fault on the families part here...she has become | a danger to herself and her family needs to start taking some responsibility | for her before there is a serious accident. | | -- | katysails | s/v Chanteuse | Kirie Elite 32 | http://katysails.tripod.com | | "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax | and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein | | | | --- | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 | | |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message One son to look after her... it's a learning experience... he's coping as best he can.... he was unaware of the prior incident. Does the term "Compassion" or "Empathy" ring a bell? My father, now deceased, suffered a CVA (stroke) in the mid-90s. Following his recovery, he became somewhat disoriented and occasionally confused. I, like the woman's son, was doing my best to juggle a career, a family, and an ailing father living in a town some 25 miles distant. My ultimate choice was to place him in a retirement center. Eventually his condition exacerbated to the point that he had to be placed in a nursing facility. It was a tough decision, but perhaps one the woman's son will have to make sooner or later. Max |
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Granted... but she has maybe 6 months tops to live..... he won't put her in
home or palliative care until absolutely required. If we complacently lie down and take this abuse from the corporates.... then we deserve the treatment we get. I for one will not stand for it. That have already threatened her with a team of lawyers... so we have a defense fund being set up.... let's see who can hire the best weasel and what happens when the media dogs find this choice bit of bone to gnaw on. CM "Maxprop" wrote in message link.net... | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message | | One son to look after her... it's a learning experience... he's coping as | best he can.... he was unaware of the prior incident. Does the term | "Compassion" or "Empathy" ring a bell? | | My father, now deceased, suffered a CVA (stroke) in the mid-90s. Following | his recovery, he became somewhat disoriented and occasionally confused. I, | like the woman's son, was doing my best to juggle a career, a family, and an | ailing father living in a town some 25 miles distant. My ultimate choice | was to place him in a retirement center. Eventually his condition | exacerbated to the point that he had to be placed in a nursing facility. It | was a tough decision, but perhaps one the woman's son will have to make | sooner or later. | | Max | | | | |
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Mooron,
just send all this stuff to the US Yellow Hournalism Corps (headed by a Canadian, BTW).... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
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he was unaware of the prior incident. Does the term "Compassion" or "Empathy" ring a bell? Yes, it does....learning experience...with someone's life? My God...My m-i-l was showing signs of losing her hearings and we took immediate action to make sure she was safe. First, she came here until she couldn't cope on her own at all and then she went to assisted living...You wouldn't allow your 4 year old child to take themselves to the store and that's what this man did...he allowed his poor mother to try to wander around town in a conused state. You forget where I work and what I see evberyday. Yes, I have great empathy for the poor lady. Her son is an asshole. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 |
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No Katy... this was 2 separate incidents.... she has become progressively
worse in the last month. He was with her both times. The first time it happened he was not within proximity to know what happened since he believed she was safe to wander the store in mid day..and apparently she felt too embarrassed to tell him. The second time he explained to the security staff about her condition... they ignored him and filed charges.. having her arrested. Great that you can have the family and currency to afford the care you undertook with your MIL.... it's unfortunate that my friend had to give up his job to look after his mother and that they don't have your financial resources. I'm looking after my parents and can tell you that they often refuse to bend on requests. That doubles my work but I have a brother and family nearby to assist. This man has nobody to help him. ....and yes Katy... it is indeed a learning experience, unfortunately the curve is short due to the fact she has terminal cancer and a life expectancy of months. I personally think the whole affair could have been avoided with an application of common sense.... but I'm elated that your good Christian values can find fault in her son! CM "katysails" wrote in message ... | | he was unaware of the prior incident. Does the term | "Compassion" or "Empathy" ring a bell? | | Yes, it does....learning experience...with someone's life? My God...My | m-i-l was showing signs of losing her hearings and we took immediate action | to make sure she was safe. First, she came here until she couldn't cope on | her own at all and then she went to assisted living...You wouldn't allow | your 4 year old child to take themselves to the store and that's what this | man did...he allowed his poor mother to try to wander around town in a | conused state. You forget where I work and what I see evberyday. Yes, I | have great empathy for the poor lady. Her son is an asshole. | -- | katysails | s/v Chanteuse | Kirie Elite 32 | http://katysails.tripod.com | | "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax | and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein | | | | --- | Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. | Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). | Version: 6.0.726 / Virus Database: 481 - Release Date: 7/22/2004 | | |
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