Heh Loco..... slap some sun block on that thin skin..... here is a
comparision between my Crab Crusher and your "Racer/Cruiser"!!

Ha Ha Ha Ha.....

Performance Comparison LOA Express 30 30

Nordica 30 29.49

LWL Express 30 24.5

Nordica 30 25

Beam Express 30 10

Nordica 30 9.77

Displacement Express 30 8200

Nordica 30 10220

Sail Area Express 30 472

Nordica 30 502

Capsize Ratio Express 30 1.98

Nordica 30 1.8

Hull Speed Express 30 6.63

Nordica 30 6.7

Sail Area to Displacement Express 30 18.57

Nordica 30 17.06

Displacement to LWL Express 30 249

Nordica 30 292

LWL to Beam Express 30 2.45

Nordica 30 2.56

Motion Comfort Express 30 22.39

Nordica 30 28.57

Pounds/Inch Express 30 875

Nordica 30 873

So what's your point? The real difference is my boat goes out. Crab crusher
drivers just hang out at the marina talking about their someday cruise to
Tahiti with the new steering vane driving.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Marina??? Marina!!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahaa..... my boat is to a mooring. I don't do 'marina' there
ducky. Do try and pay attention would you.

So you consider sailing around a set of buoys 3 times a week for an hour at
a time as "going out"??
That's just so lame..... especially seeing that you spend inordinately more
time talking sail than actually sailing.

My Crab Crusher can kick your boat's ass!
Overproof is not only faster than your round the buoy fin keeled scow...
it's built better as well.

Marina!! Bwahahahahahaaa.... what a Dock-Side Diva you turned out to be.

Come on Loco..... you have to have better ammo than this... or have I taxed
your wit in so short a time? ;-)

CM



"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| So what's your point? The real difference is my boat goes out. Crab
crusher
| drivers just hang out at the marina talking about their someday cruise to
| Tahiti with the new steering vane driving.
| S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
| "No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Hey "Mooron of the North"

Take a look at the total weigth, 2000#!! That my "Artic Friend" is what
makes your Nordic a Crab Cruncher and the Express a R/C

Interesting Post though.

Ole Thom

Yeah Thom... I'm just trying to rattle Loco's chain.... ;-)

At 292..... I'm at the border of Heavy Cruiser Class.

Fortunately for me my boat doesn't read numbers well and continues to
surpass the sum of it's numerical values. Last Saturday I passed an Irwin 38
and a Hunter 33. It takes at least 35+ feet of sail boat to offer me any
competition downwind.

CM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
| Hey "Mooron of the North"
|
| Take a look at the total weigth, 2000#!! That my "Artic Friend" is what
| makes your Nordic a Crab Cruncher and the Express a R/C
|
| Interesting Post though.
|
| Ole Thom
|

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Yeah Thom... I'm just trying to rattle Loco's chain.... ;-)

At 292..... I'm at the border of Heavy Cruiser Class.

Fortunately for me my boat doesn't read numbers well and continues to
surpass the sum of it's numerical values. Last Saturday I passed an Irwin
38
and a Hunter 33. It takes at least 35+ feet of sail boat to offer me any
competition downwind.


Rubbish! My 32 footer would thrash you on any point of sail!

You'd probably stain your pants if you found yourself doing more than 12 kts
downwind.

In my humble experience, the owners of crab crushers are "all mouth and no
trousers". They choose their boats on the basis that they are incredibly
seaworthy - and then they refuse to set sail in anything more than a F4.
They never see hull speed because they are afraid to venture out in the
conditions that would enable them to do hull speed.

I, on the other hand, am the proud possessor of a boat that really *is*
able to exceed hull speed.


Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message

| Rubbish! My 32 footer would thrash you on any point of sail!

Bah!... the only part of that statement worth retaining is the "My 32
footer","thrash" & "Rubbish"
Upwind you might have a chance of keeping up....downwind you'd be lost far
behind me.


|
| You'd probably stain your pants if you found yourself doing more than 12
kts
| downwind.

13kts sustained average over 2 miles..... stick that in your French Fried
Fin Keeler!

|
| In my humble experience, the owners of crab crushers are "all mouth and no
| trousers". They choose their boats on the basis that they are incredibly
| seaworthy - and then they refuse to set sail in anything more than a F4.
| They never see hull speed because they are afraid to venture out in the
| conditions that would enable them to do hull speed.

This is obviously a situation unique to the British.... my findings
illustrate that Fin Keelers never venture far from the harbour and generally
loose not only their bravado but their bowel content when faced with a real
ocean.
|
| I, on the other hand, am the proud possessor of a boat that really *is*
| able to exceed hull speed.

So can most margarine containers..... when push comes to shove they flip &
fold faster than superman on laundry day!

Fin Keelers..... Pah!

CM

Fin Keelers never venture far from the harbour and generally
loose not only their bravado but their bowel content when faced with a real
ocean.
|


That'll no doubt explain the design of all off shore monohull racing
yachts...

Cheers

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Donal" wrote in message

| Rubbish! My 32 footer would thrash you on any point of sail!

Bah!... the only part of that statement worth retaining is the "My 32
footer","thrash" & "Rubbish"
Upwind you might have a chance of keeping up....downwind you'd be lost far
behind me.

The opposite is true. Going upwind, my lack of momentum means that the
waves slow me down, whereas you would be able to maintain your 4.5 kts.

Going downwind, however, would be an entirely different matter. You
wouldn't see me for dust! Your pathetic little crab crusher would be
bouncing around in the waves while I would be surfing away - at high speed!



13kts sustained average over 2 miles..... stick that in your French Fried
Fin Keeler!

Bwahahahaha! Pull the other one - it's got bells on! Delivery trips on
the back of a truck don't count.

Speed over ground doesn't count either.




|
| In my humble experience, the owners of crab crushers are "all mouth and
no
| trousers". They choose their boats on the basis that they are
incredibly
| seaworthy - and then they refuse to set sail in anything more than a F4.
| They never see hull speed because they are afraid to venture out in the
| conditions that would enable them to do hull speed.

This is obviously a situation unique to the British.... my findings
illustrate that Fin Keelers never venture far from the harbour and
generally
loose not only their bravado but their bowel content when faced with a
real
ocean.

I can just imagine Ellen Mc Arthur sailing around the world in a crab
crusher?????

Really,... Mooron, you need to get a grip on reality. When was the last
time that a crab crusher took part in a "Round the World" race?





|
| I, on the other hand, am the proud possessor of a boat that really *is*
| able to exceed hull speed.

So can most margarine containers..... when push comes to shove they flip
&
fold faster than superman on laundry day!

Fin Keelers..... Pah!

Regards


Donal
--

In my humble experience, the owners of crab crushers are "all mouth and no
trousers". They choose their boats on the basis that they are incredibly
seaworthy

And like I said, they are all dying to corner anyone walking by and tell them
about their planed trip to Tahiti. Fact is they all wind up just plain dying.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"