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katysails
 
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You are sailing upwind, offshore, when your backstay
parts at the masthead. The nearest land is 600 miles
to weather, and you have limited fuel, water, and food.

What should you immediately do? [1 pt]
Put the boat in irons.
Quick grab the spin halyard and pull it around back and tie it down to
something, then reduce sail.....

What steps can you take to prevent the loss of
the whole rig? [1 pt]

Do what I said in number 1....

What can you use to replace the backstay long enough
to get home? [1 pt]

The spin halyard or you could use the jib halyard and just sail on the main

What else can be done to pull the mast aft to keep
tension on the rig? [1 pt]

Yark down the boom vang.... and tighten down the boom with the mainsheet...





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Thom Stewart
 
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Let go the jib sheet Bring the main near middle traveler position and
get a much Leech tension as possible. Mainsheet, vang lazy jacks,jumper
stays (If available). Get the Jib down

Then on "Pneuma" I have enough tail on my topping lift to go thru the
low rail on my stern pulpit and back to a Jenny Winch to re-tension the
main. Then I'd set-up a Barber haul to make it a semi-permanent
back-stay and sail home.

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Bobspirt
 
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In addition to what everyone else said, furl or drop the jib - don't let it
flog too long.

Secure the broken stay.

Lead the temporary backstay/halyard through a snatch to a winch to get it as
tight as possible.

Rig the running backs if you have 'em.

Put out a securite.
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Michael
 
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Had to jump on this one Katy!

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
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You are sailing upwind, offshore, when your backstay
parts at the masthead. The nearest land is 600 miles
to weather, and you have limited fuel, water, and food.

What should you immediately do? [1 pt Turn into the wind to reduce

pressure; sheet in the main to near the centerline and use the sail itself
along with the mainsheet to provide aft direction support. Secure both
broken ends to prevent fouling.

What steps can you take to prevent the loss of
the whole rig? [1 pt]


Going up wind the mainsail and mainsheet will act to secure the mast in

that direction. If you have running backstays consider using them. If you
have a proper four lower shroud setup to begin with that will, along with
usingthe main and mainsheet reduce the problem to manageable proportions.
Finally you can replacethe mains'lwith the topping lift if itisn't wimpy or
one of the forward halyards (the main halyard will be busy bringingdown the
main sail at this point, and use it in place of the topping lift. The
advantagehere is the mechanical purchase of the mainsheet to boom to sail,
topping lift, or otherhalyard gives you a good tight temporary fix. Which
to use depends on what rigging set up is present

What can you use to replace the backstay long enough
to get home? [1 pt]


Then one or all of the following. If you can secure the broken mast head
end of the backstay secure it aft with a bit of line and tighten using a
winch or even a truckers hitch. Make sure the broken deck end is not
fouling rudder or prop. Run the spinnaker or other spare foremast halyard
aft andsecure it. If all else is under control bridge the break. I keep a
short bit of stay/halyard wire and some wire clips in my emergency locker
for just this purpose.


What else can be done to pull the mast aft to keep
tension on the rig? [1 pt]


If you are using the sail/topping lift/halyard as a topping lift to
mainsheet configuration which means not using the mainsail you can run the
end of the mainsheet through a block to one of the winches. If you repaired
the aftstay with a clipped bridging wire you can't rig a hauling line to the
are of the wireclips andrun the same to a winch.


Limited fuel, water, food means something else went wrong earlier and also
means I can't float around waiting for Boats US. But in this circumstance
while I wouldn't pop an EPIRB I would send out a Pan message and ask to have
it passed to the coasties or similar.

M.


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Bart Senior
 
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Everyone did well on this one and answered all
at about the same time. So everyone who responded
give yourself 4 points.

Lets keep the Seamanship questions going.

Who wants to write #2?

Bart Senior wrote

You are sailing upwind, offshore, when your backstay
parts at the masthead. The nearest land is 600 miles
to weather, and you have limited fuel, water, and food.

What should you immediately do? [1 pt]

What steps can you take to prevent the loss of
the whole rig? [1 pt]

What can you use to replace the backstay long enough
to get home? [1 pt]

What else can be done to pull the mast aft to keep
tension on the rig? [1 pt]





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Jonathan Ganz
 
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When the backstay came down, one of your crew got caught in the rigging
causing a severe head injury. He's in and out of consciousness. Obviously,
this is life-threatening. What do you do?

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
Everyone did well on this one and answered all
at about the same time. So everyone who responded
give yourself 4 points.

Lets keep the Seamanship questions going.

Who wants to write #2?

Bart Senior wrote

You are sailing upwind, offshore, when your backstay
parts at the masthead. The nearest land is 600 miles
to weather, and you have limited fuel, water, and food.

What should you immediately do? [1 pt]

What steps can you take to prevent the loss of
the whole rig? [1 pt]

What can you use to replace the backstay long enough
to get home? [1 pt]

What else can be done to pull the mast aft to keep
tension on the rig? [1 pt]





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DSK
 
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
When the backstay came down, one of your crew got caught in the rigging
causing a severe head injury. He's in and out of consciousness. Obviously,
this is life-threatening. What do you do?


If it's obviously life-threatening then he needs to be choppered out of
there.

In the meantime, keep him warm & awake. Stop the bleeding but do not put
pressure on the wound. Having him sit or stand up will help both
bleeding and awakeness. No fluids, no painkillers.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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katysails
 
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Having him sit or stand up will help both
bleeding and awakeness. No fluids, no painkillers.

I disagree...on a thrashing boat (remember...you have a problem going on)
unless you have a way to keep gim from toppling over or falling, he's better
off immobilzed...head injuries often come with spinal colimn
injuries...lying down would be better....

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DSK
 
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Having him sit or stand up will help both
bleeding and awakeness. No fluids, no painkillers.


katysails wrote:
I disagree...on a thrashing boat (remember...you have a problem going on)
unless you have a way to keep gim from toppling over or falling, he's better
off immobilzed...


Put him below! The problem with letting him lay down is that he will
become unconscious and may stop breathing. Keep him at least sitting up,
and have somebody talk to him, pinch him. If you elevate the legs then
head bleeding will be a problem, and may raise intracranial pressure
which is really really bad.

... head injuries often come with spinal colimn
injuries...lying down would be better....


If a spinal injury, then yes. But unless there is good reason to suspect
spinal injury then aggravating the life-threatening head injury serves
no purpose and may kill him.

First aid isn't an exact science, I wouldn't argue with your treatment
if you were on the scene... unless it was my boat or my wife who was
injured

Now might be a good time to remind everybody to take a refresher course
in first aid, and in CPR.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Thom Stewart
 
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Injured Crewman;

All of what Doug said. Plus, if you are 600 miles out you probably have
more crew, get ready for a Helio Pick-up. Ready the dingy and lauch it.
Use a line long enough to let the Helio to come in without interference
from the mast. Pick the healthy crew man to go into the dingy with the
patient to handle the transfer. Wait for instructions from Helio but
try to be ready for different tranfer than you have in mind. Maintain
radio contact with CG and follow instructions.

Ole Thom



 
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