Yup... he's upset alright.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:37:23 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Whoohoo... Dave is a *bit* upset.

Dismissive, perhaps. Hardly upset. It takes more than foolish blather to
upset me.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Who goes duck hunting with Jamie Gorelick?

Vito wrote:
You just flunked K-history 101.

OK. Does that mean I can skip the rest of the semester?


... Remember how many soldiers
lacked warm cloths and blankets, even froze to death, thanks to Papa Joe?

"Papa Joe" usually refers to Stalin. Is that who you mean? Certainly a
heck of a lot more soldier froze to death on the Eastern Front than in
Europe, but very very few of them were American.

Anyway, I'd balance Joe Kennedy Sr's involvement in WW2 contracting with
Prescott Bush's. At least Kennedy wasn't selling war material to the Nazis.

... I'm not sure he ever "risked his life repeatedly to
save men under his command". He was an even better swimmer than his kid
brother Teddy

Try swimming a couple of miles of open sea between small Pacific
islands, with tidal currents, sharks, coral reefs... and do it while
injured. Now do it several times, including at night.

It's a walk in the park, right?


... who swam back to the mainland abandoning Mary Jo K to drown,
right?

The two events are very closely connected aren't they?

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
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Vito wrote:
You just flunked K-history 101.

OK. Does that mean I can skip the rest of the semester?

Sure, if you go sailing.


... Remember how many soldiers
lacked warm cloths and blankets, even froze to death, thanks to Papa
Joe?

"Papa Joe" usually refers to Stalin. Is that who you mean?

Naw, IIRC some of the Camalot Crowd called Joe K Sr that.

a heck of a lot more soldier froze to death on the Eastern Front than in
Europe, but very very few of them were American.

Sorry I didn't mention them - the US sent them wool coats and blankets under
lend lease but Joe Sr diverted them to the black market too.

Anyway, I'd balance Joe Kennedy Sr's involvement in WW2 contracting with
Prescott Bush's. At least Kennedy wasn't selling war material to the
Nazis.

Two rats don't make a cat ...

Try swimming a couple of miles ... It's a walk in the park, right?

Not for me but it'd be a cakewalk for young men like JFK who grew up like
fish it the water. As a teen in So Cal I had friends who'd swim 5 and more
miles in the "shark infested" water off Redondo Beach just for fun. I
preferred diving with an inner tube close at hand cuz I'm a "sinker", which
made diving easy but swimming too much like work. Used to amaze 'chicks' by
walking on the bottom without weights.

... who swam back to the mainland abandoning Mary Jo K to drown, right?

The two events are very closely connected aren't they?

In the context of illustrating the boys swimming abilities, yes. Point is
Teddy thot nothing of swimming to the mainland (had to, too drunk to walk)
and IIRC he was the least athletic of the two brothers.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Hmmm... I thought the issue was a national registry, which means
that some federal agency would have to have a set of records. I
believe there was a 60 Minutes show on it a while ago, but I can't
remember the details.

Same folks who faked exploding chevy gas tanks IIRC.

There is a national registery right now that costs taxpayers nothing because
private companies pay to keep it up. The "problem" is it doesn't employ
BATF or FBI agents. Like all good bureaucrats, the Bureaus of ATF and
Investigation want congress to give them each a few $billion/year to take
over that registery and take agents off the streets and put them to counting
beans. "If we had a national registery we could trace any gun found
associated with a crime" they say. That's true - but what they forget to
mention is that they do that right now, every day. What can we expect from
the bureaucrats who gave us the Waco and Ruby Ridge massacres?

More dead wackos? :-)

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Hmmm... I thought the issue was a national registry, which means
that some federal agency would have to have a set of records. I
believe there was a 60 Minutes show on it a while ago, but I can't
remember the details.

Same folks who faked exploding chevy gas tanks IIRC.

There is a national registery right now that costs taxpayers nothing
because
private companies pay to keep it up. The "problem" is it doesn't employ
BATF or FBI agents. Like all good bureaucrats, the Bureaus of ATF and
Investigation want congress to give them each a few $billion/year to take
over that registery and take agents off the streets and put them to
counting
beans. "If we had a national registery we could trace any gun found
associated with a crime" they say. That's true - but what they forget to
mention is that they do that right now, every day. What can we expect from
the bureaucrats who gave us the Waco and Ruby Ridge massacres?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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More dead wackos? :-)

Prolly, but the next dead wackos could well be cruising sailors who have
much in common with landlubbers who simply want to be left alone to live
alone in peace. Randy Weaver was trying to raise a family outside "normal"
patterns, just like some of the people here, but one day a BATF Agent tried
to make him a snitch by threatening to put him in jail and his kids in
foster care - but he refused. That's contempt of cop! So they killed his son
and dog then shot him and killed his wife and we ended up paying him over $2
million to avoid a civil suit!

Everybody is afraid to admit is that the same thing could happen to them.

2 mil? So what's the problem? :-)

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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More dead wackos? :-)

Prolly, but the next dead wackos could well be cruising sailors who have
much in common with landlubbers who simply want to be left alone to live
alone in peace. Randy Weaver was trying to raise a family outside
"normal"
patterns, just like some of the people here, but one day a BATF Agent
tried
to make him a snitch by threatening to put him in jail and his kids in
foster care - but he refused. That's contempt of cop! So they killed his
son
and dog then shot him and killed his wife and we ended up paying him over
$2
million to avoid a civil suit!

Everybody is afraid to admit is that the same thing could happen to them.

"Dave" wrote

Lame, Vito. I'm a sinker too, and used to swim about 3 miles a day when I
was a life guard as a teen.

I envy you that. I was too busy setting pins 6 hours a night on school days
and 10-12 hours/dy otherwise. Paid about 4x lifeguard wages but lacked the
fringe benefits I see on Baywatch. Ahhh my misspent youth (c:

But if you sink like me and still swam 3 miles every day you got to wonder
if JFK, who floated fine in pictures, performed an act of heroism by
swimming half that distance.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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2 mil? So what's the problem? :-)

Problem is the kid shot in the back and the mama killed holding her baby.

Yeah, but he got 2 mil... sorry, I'm being rude.

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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2 mil? So what's the problem? :-)

Problem is the kid shot in the back and the mama killed holding her baby.