"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" wrote
.... The big liberal lie was that Bush wanted to steal the oil.

Agree that's BS - Saddam would have gladly sold oil at bargain prices. The
only thing that's a worse lie is that we're looking out for Iraqui people
and freedom - at the expense of our own freedom and people. And somebody
already debunked my theory that Bush did it for Israel. So why the war &
occupation?

Actually, the stuff going on in Iraq *is* about the oil ultimately. Bush
lied.

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"Vito" wrote in message
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"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" wrote
.... The big liberal lie was that Bush wanted to steal the oil.

Agree that's BS - Saddam would have gladly sold oil at bargain prices.
The
only thing that's a worse lie is that we're looking out for Iraqui people
and freedom - at the expense of our own freedom and people. And somebody
already debunked my theory that Bush did it for Israel. So why the war &
occupation?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Actually, the stuff going on in Iraq *is* about the oil ultimately. Bush
lied.


IMO GW is finishing what his father should of done in the first
place.
Saddam was a scumbag and no country should have to live under the fear
he subjected the Iraqi's to. Plus we all know that Saddam supported
terrorist and produced and hid WMD. Every member of the UN signed res
1441 that stated if he did not prove to the world he had no WMD he
would suffer serious conquences. He snubbed his nose at the USA and
the world for 10+ years and got exactly what he deserved, Its just a
damn shame the Iraqi people could not overthrow him without our help.
Just like it was a damn shame England, France, Poland and another half
dozen countrys could not get rid of Hitler without Americas help.

Just think what the world would be like now if Americans were not
willing to help rid the world of evil leaders. Donal would be speaking
German and Saddam would still be chopping of body parts, raping women
in front of thier husbands gassing the Kurds, invading Kuwait, and
shooting at our planes. Hawaii would be part of the empire of Japan
and the russians would be the only Superpower going.

Joe






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"Vito" wrote in message
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"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" wrote
.... The big liberal lie was that Bush wanted to steal the oil.

Agree that's BS - Saddam would have gladly sold oil at bargain prices.
The
only thing that's a worse lie is that we're looking out for Iraqui people
and freedom - at the expense of our own freedom and people. And somebody
already debunked my theory that Bush did it for Israel. So why the war &
occupation?

But he won't admit it's about the oil. If he were just honest
about it, I would hate him a bit less.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Actually, the stuff going on in Iraq *is* about the oil ultimately. Bush
lied.


IMO GW is finishing what his father should of done in the first
place.
Saddam was a scumbag and no country should have to live under the fear
he subjected the Iraqi's to. Plus we all know that Saddam supported
terrorist and produced and hid WMD. Every member of the UN signed res
1441 that stated if he did not prove to the world he had no WMD he
would suffer serious conquences. He snubbed his nose at the USA and
the world for 10+ years and got exactly what he deserved, Its just a
damn shame the Iraqi people could not overthrow him without our help.
Just like it was a damn shame England, France, Poland and another half
dozen countrys could not get rid of Hitler without Americas help.

Just think what the world would be like now if Americans were not
willing to help rid the world of evil leaders. Donal would be speaking
German and Saddam would still be chopping of body parts, raping women
in front of thier husbands gassing the Kurds, invading Kuwait, and
shooting at our planes. Hawaii would be part of the empire of Japan
and the russians would be the only Superpower going.

Joe






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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Vito" wrote in message
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"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" wrote
.... The big liberal lie was that Bush wanted to steal the oil.

Agree that's BS - Saddam would have gladly sold oil at bargain prices.
The
only thing that's a worse lie is that we're looking out for Iraqui
people
and freedom - at the expense of our own freedom and people. And
somebody
already debunked my theory that Bush did it for Israel. So why the war
&
occupation?

But he won't admit it's about the oil. If he were just honest
about it, I would hate him a bit less.

Why don't you get it through your stupid thick skull, once and for all, that it
is not about oil. It may be about misconceived notions of democracy-building,
but it ain't about oil. Use what little of your brain hasn't been addled by
following around your liberal masters like a little baby chick.

Bobspirt wrote:
Why don't you get it through your stupid thick skull, once and for
all, that it
is not about oil.

Why *isn't* it about oil? That would actually make sense. War for profit
has a very long history... it has rather low moral standing, but it is
entirely logical.

.. It may be about misconceived notions of democracy-building,
but it ain't about oil.

In other words, it's about something vague & undefined, impractical &
extremely expensive, and against the declared policy of Bush & Cheney's
administration. But this allows equally vague pretension to moral
superiority.


... Use what little of your brain hasn't been addled by
following around your liberal masters like a little baby chick.

Use what little of your brain exists in the first place to observe the
world for yourself, and try to grasp the principles by which people &
countries act.

The choice: war for oil, profitable yet evil... war for
democracy-building, very very unprofitable (especially politically) and
stupid...

Bush is stupid but Cheney is not. They both have a long lng history of
profit seeking... hmmm... this is really a puzzler...

DSK

Bobspirt wrote:
Why don't you get it through your stupid thick skull, once and for
all, that it
is not about oil.




Why *isn't* it about oil? That would actually make sense. War for profit
has a very long history... it has rather low moral standing, but it is
entirely logical.

Maybe because during the development of it oil hit its highest price ever.
Maybe because there is no coherent theory backing up such a claim. Maybe
because the oil is already flowing, but not to us. Nice little history lesson
there, Doug. Why don't you enlighten us with the last time the US conducted a
war for profit.

.. It may be about misconceived notions of democracy-building,
but it ain't about oil.

In other words, it's about something vague & undefined, impractical &
extremely expensive, and against the declared policy of Bush & Cheney's
administration. But this allows equally vague pretension to moral
superiority.

Uh, whatever. Your problem is you take everything too personally and you can't
back down in the face of being wrong. There is no pretension to moral
superiority here.

... Use what little of your brain hasn't been addled by
following around your liberal masters like a little baby chick.

Use what little of your brain exists in the first place to observe the
world for yourself, and try to grasp the principles by which people &
countries act.

The choice: war for oil, profitable yet evil... war for
democracy-building, very very unprofitable (especially politically) and
stupid...

Again, with the war for profit thing. Lay out a detailed explanation. Who is
going to profit and how? Wait, let me guess, Halliburton. Oh but there was no
response to my explanation to you the other day that one could profit with much
less risk in the market generally. No meat here from Doug, as usual.

Bush is stupid but Cheney is not. They both have a long lng history of
profit seeking... hmmm... this is really a puzzler...

You are proving yourself to be a real crank, buying into long-discredited
conspiracy theories. "long history of profit seeking" bwahahahahahaha - like
its evil or something. You crack me up.

IMO GW is finishing what his father should of done in the first
place.

Turning the USA into a international villain?
Destruction of our environment?
Fighting terrorism with insufficient forces?
Lying to the American people?

RB

"Joe" wrote in message

| Just think what the world would be like now if Americans were not
| willing to help rid the world of evil leaders. Donal would be speaking
| German and Saddam would still be chopping of body parts, raping women
| in front of their husbands gassing the Kurds, invading Kuwait, and
| shooting at our planes. Hawaii would be part of the empire of Japan
| and the russians would be the only Superpower going.

So?..... lots of folks speak German and the Japanese hold a major part of
the global trade. You want evil doers?? Where were you during the
atrocities in Africa? Oh Yeah... no money in that one eh? If you're the
"good guys"... why is it that Americans aren't the most popular people in
most countries outside of North America? Everyone likes the Canadians.

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote
Everyone likes the Canadians.


Everyone likes pushovers.