On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:21:53 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

It might feel good to beat someone to a pulp for stealing a
car, but it isn't what this country is about.

You stupid ass. He was caught at the wheel of the stolen car.

I say, beat him until he's puking blood. Then punish him.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Joe wrote:



Whats wrong Jonathan did that cop that beat the snot out of that car
thief with in maglight **** you off?

I think every car thief should get at least 12 wacks with a
flashlight in the face.

Why not just simple public flogging Joe?

Cheers
Marty

But he won't admit it's about the oil. If he were just honest
about it, I would hate him a bit less.

Why don't you get it through your stupid thick skull, once and for all, that it
is not about oil. It may be about misconceived notions of democracy-building,
but it ain't about oil. Use what little of your brain hasn't been addled by
following around your liberal masters like a little baby chick.

Well, that's the problem. It's easy to single out something that's
obvious. What if it's not quite so obvious? Then, you leave it
up to the cop to make a judgement call. Then, you have the
potential of an innocent person going to jail or worse. It's better
to free 10 guilty people that an innocent person should go to
jail. That's the American way. That's justice and equality.

It might feel good to beat someone to a pulp for stealing a
car, but it isn't what this country is about.

Well, there you go, Jon boy. A cogent, well-crafted response.
Congratulations.

Bobspirt wrote:
Why don't you get it through your stupid thick skull, once and for
all, that it
is not about oil.

Why *isn't* it about oil? That would actually make sense. War for profit
has a very long history... it has rather low moral standing, but it is
entirely logical.

.. It may be about misconceived notions of democracy-building,
but it ain't about oil.

In other words, it's about something vague & undefined, impractical &
extremely expensive, and against the declared policy of Bush & Cheney's
administration. But this allows equally vague pretension to moral
superiority.


... Use what little of your brain hasn't been addled by
following around your liberal masters like a little baby chick.

Use what little of your brain exists in the first place to observe the
world for yourself, and try to grasp the principles by which people &
countries act.

The choice: war for oil, profitable yet evil... war for
democracy-building, very very unprofitable (especially politically) and
stupid...

Bush is stupid but Cheney is not. They both have a long lng history of
profit seeking... hmmm... this is really a puzzler...

DSK

Bobspirt wrote:
Why don't you get it through your stupid thick skull, once and for
all, that it
is not about oil.




Why *isn't* it about oil? That would actually make sense. War for profit
has a very long history... it has rather low moral standing, but it is
entirely logical.

Maybe because during the development of it oil hit its highest price ever.
Maybe because there is no coherent theory backing up such a claim. Maybe
because the oil is already flowing, but not to us. Nice little history lesson
there, Doug. Why don't you enlighten us with the last time the US conducted a
war for profit.

.. It may be about misconceived notions of democracy-building,
but it ain't about oil.

In other words, it's about something vague & undefined, impractical &
extremely expensive, and against the declared policy of Bush & Cheney's
administration. But this allows equally vague pretension to moral
superiority.

Uh, whatever. Your problem is you take everything too personally and you can't
back down in the face of being wrong. There is no pretension to moral
superiority here.

... Use what little of your brain hasn't been addled by
following around your liberal masters like a little baby chick.

Use what little of your brain exists in the first place to observe the
world for yourself, and try to grasp the principles by which people &
countries act.

The choice: war for oil, profitable yet evil... war for
democracy-building, very very unprofitable (especially politically) and
stupid...

Again, with the war for profit thing. Lay out a detailed explanation. Who is
going to profit and how? Wait, let me guess, Halliburton. Oh but there was no
response to my explanation to you the other day that one could profit with much
less risk in the market generally. No meat here from Doug, as usual.

Bush is stupid but Cheney is not. They both have a long lng history of
profit seeking... hmmm... this is really a puzzler...

You are proving yourself to be a real crank, buying into long-discredited
conspiracy theories. "long history of profit seeking" bwahahahahahaha - like
its evil or something. You crack me up.

Bobspirt wrote:
Again, with the war for profit thing. Lay out a detailed explanation.

Why? It's very very simple... Both the current President and current
Vice-President, and lots of their biggest contributors, have very close
ties to the oil business and the military contracting business. Fighting
a war is going to be profitable to one, fighting a war for oil is going
to be profitable for both. Kinda neat... as long as you're not the one
getting shot at...


... Who is
going to profit and how? Wait, let me guess, Halliburton. Oh but there was no
response to my explanation to you the other day that one could profit with much
less risk in the market generally. No meat here from Doug, as usual.

Oh really? How come Halliburton's profit's are up almost 600% since the
start of the war? How come they are currently fighting charges that they
overbilled the Army by approx 90 million dollars?

Tell me where you can make that kind of profit "in the market generally"
especially with "much less risk."


You are proving yourself to be a real crank, buying into long-discredited
conspiracy theories. "long history of profit seeking" bwahahahahahaha - like
its evil or something.

It's only evil if you kill other people to make a profit for yourself.
Bonus points if you can imprison them for no reason and torture a few.

... You crack me up.

You must have a very sick sense of humor.

DSK

Vice-President, and lots of their biggest contributors, have very close
ties to the oil business and the military contracting business. Fighting
a war is going to be profitable to one, fighting a war for oil is going
to be profitable for both. Kinda neat... as long as you're not the one
getting shot at...

That does not explain anything.

Just like your tits suit you? At least I can wear a suit without
looking like a lesbian.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:18:35 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Is that what you do?? I've never heard of that particular
fetish.

Being dumb suits you well.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

And you're a ****ing fascist. What's your point?

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:21:53 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

It might feel good to beat someone to a pulp for stealing a
car, but it isn't what this country is about.

You stupid ass. He was caught at the wheel of the stolen car.

I say, beat him until he's puking blood. Then punish him.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!