"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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Atlantic Ocean. If I headed East I would hit Cape Finisterre, more or
less. Of
course, the prevailing wind is from the West, so most of the time I'm
in
the lee
of a continent. Last Summer we did 20+ miles up or down the coast
about
10
times.

Wow! **20** miles, huh? "Up and down the coast", huh?

Sorry if my effort to be honest was lost on you - 20 miles is the shortest
trip
we took, and that's measured from the harbor entrance about 10 miles from
our
berth. We also went to Provincetown, about 50 miles and Martha's
Vineyard,
around 100+ miles. In a few weeks we'll (hopefully) go to Maine - The
first leg
is about 180 miles 30 miles offshore.

In the 5 years we've had this boat we've logged about 8000 miles, ranging
from
Toronto to Maine, to Florida.



I'm beginning to understand how Bobsprit passes himself off as an
experienced sailor. I've always felt that I was a novice compared to
most
of this group. You make me feel that I am an old sea dog.

I sure you have some experience. You just like to act like someone whose
knowledge is all from a book they plan to read someday. Pretty funny
shtick you
have there.

I'm quite surprised that you accuse me of using "book" knowledge. I've made
some big gaffs here over the years - and most of them have been due to the
fact that I post the truth as I see it.


I've learned an awful lot from this ng, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
You, on the other hand, seem to feel that you are so experienced that you
can only dispense wisdom. I am fortunate enough to be able to absorb
wisdom. I guess that I am luckier than you.

We all sail in completely different waters. Our communication gives us the
ability to learn from one another. I've learned things from reading your
posts.


BTW, the chop is measured on top of the longer swells - total wave height
was
considerably higher, but only the steep component is worth mentioning.
You'll
learn about this when you read that book.

I checked out the wave heights for your neighborhood - for the next
several days
it will be 1 foot or less. It sounds pretty rough out there, you better
batten
down your Bendytoy.

Hmmmm! You are beginning to sound like Bobsprit.

Regards


Donal
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I am fortunate enough to be able to absorb
wisdom. I guess that I am luckier than you.

Guess again. Jeff bought a good quality boat. He has managed to avoid your
mistake.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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I am fortunate enough to be able to absorb
wisdom. I guess that I am luckier than you.

Guess again. Jeff bought a good quality boat. He has managed to avoid your
mistake.

6/10....... but I enjoyed it!

Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message
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I sure you have some experience. You just like to act like someone whose
knowledge is all from a book they plan to read someday. Pretty funny
shtick you
have there.

I'm quite surprised that you accuse me of using "book" knowledge. I've made
some big gaffs here over the years - and most of them have been due to the
fact that I post the truth as I see it.

No Donal, I didn't accuse you of using "book" knowledge. I accused you of
stating what you assumed must be in the book, because it made sense to you.


I've learned an awful lot from this ng, and I'm not ashamed to admit it.
You, on the other hand, seem to feel that you are so experienced that you
can only dispense wisdom. I am fortunate enough to be able to absorb
wisdom. I guess that I am luckier than you.

You're being quite the hypocrite here. I only said the each skipper should make
there own decision based on their boat and the situation. You're the one who
dogmatically proclaimed "Hatches are always sealed when a sailing boat is
underway." Now, if you had said that you always do it, because of the nature
of your boat, or the area you sail, or the size of the crew, it would have been
an interesting, informative post. But you declared unequivocally, for all
boats, for all situations, for all time, "Hatches are always sealed when a
sailing boat is underway."

Now you're accusing me of only be capable of "dispensing wisdom" because I've
offered situations where perhaps your dogmatic rule doesn't apply. You're a
real piece of work, Donal.




We all sail in completely different waters. Our communication gives us the
ability to learn from one another. I've learned things from reading your
posts.


And I yours. I'm just yanking your chain here.



BTW, the chop is measured on top of the longer swells - total wave height
was
considerably higher, but only the steep component is worth mentioning.
You'll
learn about this when you read that book.

I checked out the wave heights for your neighborhood - for the next
several days
it will be 1 foot or less. It sounds pretty rough out there, you better
batten
down your Bendytoy.

Hmmmm! You are beginning to sound like Bobsprit.


Now that's a low blow! BTW, I did realize one factor I had ignored from your
weather report: the temperature there is only 60 degrees - if it's that cold
when I go out, I have the hatches closed too! We were sealed up today because
it was only 70. The issue gets more important when the air temp is over 90 and
the water is over 80.

On Sat., Lisa was in the V-berth reading with the forward hatch open a few
inches. I told her about the 'closed hatch' thread. Sure enough, 15 minutes
later some bow spray got her. She closed it and moved to the salon bunk.


Scotty



"Jeff Morris" wrote
Now that's a low blow! BTW, I did realize one factor I had ignored from
your
weather report: the temperature there is only 60 degrees - if it's that
cold
when I go out, I have the hatches closed too! We were sealed up today
because
it was only 70. The issue gets more important when the air temp is over
90 and
the water is over 80.

On Sat., Lisa was in the V-berth reading with the forward hatch open a few
inches. I told her about the 'closed hatch' thread. Sure enough, 15 minutes
later some bow spray got her.

You have a badly designed boat. There were no conditions on Sat. that should
have brought spray over the bow aboard a 30 footer.
Nuff said!

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote

There were no conditions on Sat. that should
have brought spray over the bow aboard a 30 footer.

RB

Well no, not if you don't leave the slip.


--
Scotty
S/V Lisa Marie
Balt. MD USA

have brought spray over the bow aboard a 30 footer.

RB

Well no, not if you don't leave the slip.

You didn't leave the slip? Winds were less than 20 knots. Care to explain how
you were taking water over the bow? Did you capsize???

RB

ya don't really know, now, do ya?

Scotty, playing more line........

"Bobsprit" wrote ...
have brought spray over the bow aboard a 30 footer.

Care to explain how
you were taking water over the bow?

RB

Did you see this one?


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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On Sat., Lisa was in the V-berth reading with the forward hatch open a few
inches. I told her about the 'closed hatch' thread. Sure enough, 15
minutes
later some bow spray got her.

You have a badly designed boat. There were no conditions on Sat. that
should
have brought spray over the bow aboard a 30 footer.
Nuff said!

RB