"Bobsprit" wrote


WAIT ONE SECOND!!! If it's in the locker, why did you make 25% of your
choice
based on it's looks??!!!!

for the same reason you comb your hair (what little there is left of it) but
stay in the closet.

SV

choice
based on it's looks??!!!!

for the same reason you comb your hair (what little there is left of it) but
stay in the closet.

Are you calling poor Loco Gay?
Scotty Potti!!!! Behave yourself.

RB

Scott Vernon wrote:
for the same reason you comb your hair (what little there is left of it) but
stay in the closet.

Maybe it's also for the same reason why Boobsie sprays himself with
deodorant but hasn't taken a bath for months...

DSK

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Actually, he was probably required to carry an anchor for racing, and the
Fortress FX11 is the lightest that could be considered "suitable" for a 30
footer. Its OK as a minimal lunch hook, and Loco has admitted to no further
ambition. Sounds like a good match.

Exactly! However the Fortress FX-11 is more than a lunch hook for a 30
footer.

Yes, it might also be good for brunch.

An FX11 is an absolute minimal anchor for a 30 footer. To claim that's all
that's needed for cruising is foolish. First of all, the best holding power
Fortress claims is 900 pounds. However, the wind drag on a 30 foot sailboat is
700 pounds in 30 knots. This number goes up as the square of wind speed, so
even if particular boat has a smaller profile, it easy to see that the FX11
would likely drag in any serious wind.

Secondly, although the Fortress has many virtues, resetting on wind or current
changes is not one of them. This is especially true for the small sizes - I
went from a FX16 to a FX23 because of this problem. Add this to the issue of
deploying such a light anchor in a current or from a moving boat and it really
doesn't make it as a primary.

Finally, the concept of cruising with only one anchor is silly. I've used two
anchors numerous times in a variety of situations - I can't imagine traveling
with only one. A third is just a backup - I've had to leave one behind once,
and loaned one another time, so its nice to know I have one to spare. (Also, if
I'm ever caught out in "the big one" I can set three anchors - it hasn't
happened yet!)

I will grant you one thing - the Chesapeake is about as benign and environment
as you can get. The soft mud is ubiquitous, and there is no such thing as a
rocky lee shore. You may be able to get away with such a naive approach there,
but you wouldn't last a weekend in Maine.

An FX11 is an absolute minimal anchor for a 30 footer. To claim that's all
that's needed for cruising is foolish.


Minimal for what? Fortress states the FX-11 is good for boats up to 32
feet. As far as stating "that's all that's needed for cruising is foolish"
please go back and reread my posts. I'm an admited daysailor, racer and
sometime overnighter who spends those few nights at a marina. I'm not planing
on anchoring off Tahiti in a typhoon. I'm sure the Fortress would hold in the
typical Chesapeake thunderstorm however and that's all I need.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

You may be able to get away with such a naive approach there,
but you wouldn't last a weekend in Maine.

Jeff, I really don't understand the continuing know it all comments. The
purchase of the Fortress for use on my boat was not a naive decision. Maybe
you can't read but I explained in my first post the reason for the selection.
If you want to keep talking about your need for 3 anchors that's fine but
suppose I said that was a candy ass choice made by a candy ass worry wort. If
you want to sail around with all that weight in the ends of your boat then more
power to you. It fits your needs. It doesn't fit mine.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
An FX11 is an absolute minimal anchor for a 30 footer. To claim that's all
that's needed for cruising is foolish.

Minimal for what? Fortress states the FX-11 is good for boats up to 32
feet.

Those charts are based on a "working anchor" which is defined by the ABYC as
good for winds up to 30 knots, in an ideal situation. Virtually every manual
advises going up at least one size from that. In any location more challenging
than the Chesapeake, even that is undersized.

As far as stating "that's all that's needed for cruising is foolish"
please go back and reread my posts. I'm an admited daysailor, racer and
sometime overnighter who spends those few nights at a marina. I'm not planing
on anchoring off Tahiti in a typhoon.

I already admitted that this anchor is a good choice for your needs. You're the
one who said its "more than a lunch hook" and implied that cruising with more is
silly. You seem to have a problem with those whose horizons are a tad further
than yours.

I'm sure the Fortress would hold in the
typical Chesapeake thunderstorm however and that's all I need.

Yes, you would only drag at about 3 knots in Chesapeake t-storm. It would
probably be over before you washed up in Crisfield.

Don't tell boob that, maybe with any luck he'll drag himself across the
atlantic.


The holding power of the FX-11 in soft mud is listed by Fortress at
540 pounds.

BB

Bobsprit wrote:

I have two Danforths and I just picked up a Bruce anchor, which I
plan to try out this Friday.

We have a Bruce on the Sonata. Only used it once, for a lunch stop, and it
worked fine in mud. When I hauled it up, I found that only one prong had
actually dug in. It was fairly thick mud - it wouldn't clear by swishing the
anchor in the water.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Joe wrote:

Breaking out of the mud when it bites it a bit hard, mud always
covers it, all we have in the bay here is mud, mud and oyster reefs,
and mud & grass. Lots of mud, In a hard blow in deep mud, it's easy to
put skid marks across the bottom.

I thought Danforths were supposed to be good in mud - aren't they supposed
to dig in deeper if they start to drag?


Usually Ill pull it up to the water line than was it a mile or so
before hauling it into the hawse pipe, just to help get rid of some of
the freakin mud.

Did that to clean a small bruce that was used to hold a race mark (we were
on a RIB). Do you drag it off the stern?


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Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk