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I think
some people use too much. I'm only saying its important to understand how
different anchors work in different situations, and to use them accordingly.


But...jeff, do you agree with Loco's decision to base 25% of his anchor choice
on it's looks?

RB
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Actually, he was probably required to carry an anchor for racing, and the
Fortress FX11 is the lightest that could be considered "suitable" for a 30
footer. Its OK as a minimal lunch hook, and Loco has admitted to no further
ambition. Sounds like a good match.


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I think
some people use too much. I'm only saying its important to understand how
different anchors work in different situations, and to use them accordingly.


But...jeff, do you agree with Loco's decision to base 25% of his anchor choice
on it's looks?

RB



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Actually, he was probably required to carry an anchor for racing, and the
Fortress FX11 is the lightest that could be considered "suitable" for a 30
footer. Its OK as a minimal lunch hook, and Loco has admitted to no further
ambition. Sounds like a good match.


Agreed, but if you look back, you'll note that Loco says 25% of the reason for
the Fortress was looks.

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Ssssssssssssssssssss..what's that sound? Oh, it's bob**** deflating.

Loco ----- 100
boob**** - 0

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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Actually, he was probably required to carry an anchor for racing, and the
Fortress FX11 is the lightest that could be considered "suitable" for a 30
footer. Its OK as a minimal lunch hook, and Loco has admitted to no

further
ambition. Sounds like a good match.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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I think
some people use too much. I'm only saying its important to understand

how
different anchors work in different situations, and to use them

accordingly.


But...jeff, do you agree with Loco's decision to base 25% of his anchor

choice
on it's looks?

RB




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Scotty wrote:

Loco ----- 25%
boob**** - 100.


Bwahahahahahahaha!

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Actually, he was probably required to carry an anchor for racing, and the
Fortress FX11 is the lightest that could be considered "suitable" for a 30
footer. Its OK as a minimal lunch hook, and Loco has admitted to no further
ambition. Sounds like a good match.

Exactly! However the Fortress FX-11 is more than a lunch hook for a 30 footer.
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Exactly! However the Fortress FX-11 is more than a lunch hook for a 30
footer.

yes, it's also a FASHION STATEMENT!

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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
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Actually, he was probably required to carry an anchor for racing, and the
Fortress FX11 is the lightest that could be considered "suitable" for a 30
footer. Its OK as a minimal lunch hook, and Loco has admitted to no further
ambition. Sounds like a good match.

Exactly! However the Fortress FX-11 is more than a lunch hook for a 30

footer.

Yes, it might also be good for brunch.

An FX11 is an absolute minimal anchor for a 30 footer. To claim that's all
that's needed for cruising is foolish. First of all, the best holding power
Fortress claims is 900 pounds. However, the wind drag on a 30 foot sailboat is
700 pounds in 30 knots. This number goes up as the square of wind speed, so
even if particular boat has a smaller profile, it easy to see that the FX11
would likely drag in any serious wind.

Secondly, although the Fortress has many virtues, resetting on wind or current
changes is not one of them. This is especially true for the small sizes - I
went from a FX16 to a FX23 because of this problem. Add this to the issue of
deploying such a light anchor in a current or from a moving boat and it really
doesn't make it as a primary.

Finally, the concept of cruising with only one anchor is silly. I've used two
anchors numerous times in a variety of situations - I can't imagine traveling
with only one. A third is just a backup - I've had to leave one behind once,
and loaned one another time, so its nice to know I have one to spare. (Also, if
I'm ever caught out in "the big one" I can set three anchors - it hasn't
happened yet!)

I will grant you one thing - the Chesapeake is about as benign and environment
as you can get. The soft mud is ubiquitous, and there is no such thing as a
rocky lee shore. You may be able to get away with such a naive approach there,
but you wouldn't last a weekend in Maine.




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An FX11 is an absolute minimal anchor for a 30 footer. To claim that's all
that's needed for cruising is foolish.


Minimal for what? Fortress states the FX-11 is good for boats up to 32
feet. As far as stating "that's all that's needed for cruising is foolish"
please go back and reread my posts. I'm an admited daysailor, racer and
sometime overnighter who spends those few nights at a marina. I'm not planing
on anchoring off Tahiti in a typhoon. I'm sure the Fortress would hold in the
typical Chesapeake thunderstorm however and that's all I need.
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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
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An FX11 is an absolute minimal anchor for a 30 footer. To claim that's all
that's needed for cruising is foolish.

Minimal for what? Fortress states the FX-11 is good for boats up to 32
feet.


Those charts are based on a "working anchor" which is defined by the ABYC as
good for winds up to 30 knots, in an ideal situation. Virtually every manual
advises going up at least one size from that. In any location more challenging
than the Chesapeake, even that is undersized.

As far as stating "that's all that's needed for cruising is foolish"
please go back and reread my posts. I'm an admited daysailor, racer and
sometime overnighter who spends those few nights at a marina. I'm not planing
on anchoring off Tahiti in a typhoon.


I already admitted that this anchor is a good choice for your needs. You're the
one who said its "more than a lunch hook" and implied that cruising with more is
silly. You seem to have a problem with those whose horizons are a tad further
than yours.

I'm sure the Fortress would hold in the
typical Chesapeake thunderstorm however and that's all I need.


Yes, you would only drag at about 3 knots in Chesapeake t-storm. It would
probably be over before you washed up in Crisfield.




 
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