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Jonathan Ganz June 13th 04 06:33 PM

Jim Cate a NO Show
 
Not much of a sailor either.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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Jim Cate wrote in message

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Joe wrote:

Jim Cate wrote in message

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Good for you Joe. But I don't have even one oil well,



Well you must not have been born a Texan. Were you from?

All real Texans have at least 1 all well partner.

Joe




Donal June 13th 04 11:06 PM

Jim Cate a NO Show
 

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Good for you Joe. But I don't have even one oil well, and I have lots of
deadlines and responsibilities at work and home that take precedence
over sailing. My wife and I did get out today, for an afternoon of

sailing.


Jim,
Don't defend yourself against lame attacks from Redneck powerboaters like
Joe.


Are you enjoying your new boat? Tell us about it!




Regards


Donal
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Jim Cate June 14th 04 12:53 AM

Jim Cate a NO Show
 


Donal wrote:
"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Good for you Joe. But I don't have even one oil well, and I have lots of
deadlines and responsibilities at work and home that take precedence
over sailing. My wife and I did get out today, for an afternoon of


sailing.


Jim,
Don't defend yourself against lame attacks from Redneck powerboaters like
Joe.


Are you enjoying your new boat? Tell us about it!



Regards

Donal
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Donal,

As I noted above, I have been occupied by a number of issues at work,
and I haven't had much time on the boat yet. - Our two initial trips
were in fairly breezy weather, with chop and whitecaps from the winds
and wakes from power boats going in and out of Galveston Bay. (I
understand that the Kemah area is one of the busiest in the country and
is one of the top three as far as the number of boats docked in the
area.) The Mac 26M handles such conditions quite well, and seems to have
lots of stiffness when under sail.

I haven't had time to become proficient with most of the boat's
features. I do note that, compared with some of the other, larger boats
that I have sailed, the Mac is more complicated and more versatile as
far as choices of controls, options for sailing, motoring, etc. For
example, the boat provides a choice of motoring with or without the
extra 1,100 pounds of water ballast. In light wind conditions, the boat
can be powered at greater speed without the ballast. With the water
ballast, the 50-hp motor can still keep the boat on a plane. Another
option is that the helm can utilize one, or both, or neither (when under
power) of the retractable rudders. The motor can be tilted out of the
water when under sail to reduce drag. Another choice is the depth of
the dagger board, which can be extended for reaching and partially
retracted when on a reach, or running. My Mac has roller furling, and
three choices of reefing in the main, which provides further versatility
for the particular conditions. The main is on a traveler, and the jib
sheet blocks can be adjusted fore and aft for tuning the sails.

Again, I haven't had time to use most of these various features, and I
can't give a comprehensive report on its handling, pointing ability,
etc. Another aspect is that my wife served as crew on our shakedown
cruise this week, and I didn't want to push the boat too much on her
first trip out. All in all, however, it has a nice sweet "feel" under
sail, which is what I'm primarily interested in.

Jim

Jim


DSK June 14th 04 01:08 AM

Jim Cate a NO Show
 
Jim Cate wrote:
.... Our two initial trips
were in fairly breezy weather, with chop and whitecaps from the winds
and wakes from power boats going in and out of Galveston Bay.


Wow! You went sailing in whitecaps? That means the wind might have been
as much as ten or twelve knots! What a manly sailor dude you are!


... The Mac 26M handles such conditions quite well, and seems to have
lots of stiffness when under sail.


Of course. It's shaped like a box, naturally it's going have a lot of
initial stability.


I haven't had time to become proficient with most of the boat's
features.


What, like all the ropes and stuff?

... All in all, however, it has a nice sweet "feel" under
sail, which is what I'm primarily interested in.


Oh yeah, I bet. Sporty, just like a 505 or an Etchells!

Fresh Breezes (or something)- Doug King


Jim Cate June 14th 04 02:54 AM

Jim Cate a NO Show
 


DSK wrote:
Jim Cate wrote:

.... Our two initial trips were in fairly breezy weather, with chop
and whitecaps from the winds and wakes from power boats going in and
out of Galveston Bay.



Wow! You went sailing in whitecaps? That means the wind might have been
as much as ten or twelve knots! What a manly sailor dude you are!


More like 20 knots.


... The Mac 26M handles such conditions quite well, and seems to have
lots of stiffness when under sail.



Of course. It's shaped like a box, naturally it's going have a lot of
initial stability.


Just the opposite, actually. It becomes increasingly stiff when heeled.


I haven't had time to become proficient with most of the boat's features.



What, like all the ropes and stuff?


Sure thing. - Lots of ropes and other stuff.


... All in all, however, it has a nice sweet "feel" under
sail, which is what I'm primarily interested in.



Oh yeah, I bet. Sporty, just like a 505 or an Etchells!

Fresh Breezes (or something)- Doug King


Thanks Doug. - And the same to you!

Jim


John Cairns June 14th 04 04:07 AM

Jim Cate a NO Show
 

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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More like 20 knots.
Jim


http://www.havencraft.com/n26m.asp

http://www.gatewaysailing.com/newboa...onsPricing.htm

http://www.a1sailboats.com/newboatprint.htm

http://www.macgregorsailboats.com/ma...t-pricing.html

Never thought the mac was much of a SAILBOAT because I noticed fairly early
that none of these hucksters offer something that most 21st century sailors
consider indispensable, WIND instruments. If your boat doesn't have WIND
INSTRUMENTS, how did you determine the wind was blowing 20KTS?

John Cairns



John Cairns June 14th 04 04:12 AM

Jim Cate a NO Show
 

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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My Mac has roller furling, and
three choices of reefing in the main, which provides further versatility
for the particular conditions.

Jim


Little hint, most sailors would use a term like "three reefing points",
"three choices of reefing" will sound particularly lubberly in a
conversation with a sailor, but you could probably run it by the average
powerboater and they won't bat an eye.
John Cairns



Jonathan Ganz June 14th 04 05:39 AM

Jim Cate a NO Show
 
Not true! His reefing points are the good, the bad, and the ugly,
except that on a Mac, he's really only got the last two.

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"John Cairns" wrote in message
...

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
My Mac has roller furling, and
three choices of reefing in the main, which provides further versatility
for the particular conditions.

Jim


Little hint, most sailors would use a term like "three reefing points",
"three choices of reefing" will sound particularly lubberly in a
conversation with a sailor, but you could probably run it by the average
powerboater and they won't bat an eye.
John Cairns





Jim Cate June 14th 04 11:56 AM

Jim Cate a NO Show
 
Interesting. - Doug said that the wind speed might have been as much as
10-12 knots. Why do you criticize my estimate of the wind speed but not
his, when he wasn't even there?

I was basing my estimate on observations relative to the Beaufort Scale
and past experience, plus the observations of an experienced captain who
was with me at the time, along with weather reports.- This is a new
boat, and I am in the process of equipping it, and it's going to take a
little time. - Also, I don't plan on making any extended ocean passages.

Jim

John Cairns wrote:
"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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More like 20 knots.
Jim



http://www.havencraft.com/n26m.asp

http://www.gatewaysailing.com/newboa...onsPricing.htm

http://www.a1sailboats.com/newboatprint.htm

http://www.macgregorsailboats.com/ma...t-pricing.html

Never thought the mac was much of a SAILBOAT because I noticed fairly early
that none of these hucksters offer something that most 21st century sailors
consider indispensable, WIND instruments. If your boat doesn't have WIND
INSTRUMENTS, how did you determine the wind was blowing 20KTS?

John Cairns




katysails June 14th 04 11:59 AM

Jim Cate a NO Show
 

how did you determine the wind was blowing 20KTS?

He licked his finger and stuck it up in the air....if the spit blows off,
it's 20 knots....
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