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Haggie observed: I don't
think the marinas care about their reputations anymore, there are probably
10 boats waiting for every slip around here.

That was one of the reasons we switched to a mooring and the yacht club
environment. The marina that we had been at for years became "popular" with
a certain sort of boater, and all of a sudden there was a waiting list.
Along with that came a nonchalance about work performed by the yard. When
confronted about mistakes, or poor quality workmanship, they would laugh it
off and refuse to make good. If they didn't feel like performing some type
of work they would quote an exorbitant figure to make you go elsewhere. And
when sailing is supposed to be your "release" from the rest of the daily
crud, who needs problems there?

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When
confronted about mistakes, or poor quality workmanship, they would laugh it
off and refuse to make good. If they didn't feel like performing some type
of work they would quote an exorbitant figure to make you go elsewhere. And
when sailing is supposed to be your "release" from the rest of the daily
crud, who needs problems there?

I hear a lot of stories like that. I'm glad that my yard is run by people who
care and having a slip expands the use and care of the boat. This weekend I'm
taking out some elderly folk. I'm lucky to have a slip.

RB
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The problem with most marinas is that the owner runs the place as if it were a
club and your lucky to belong. Slip holders are paying customers and they
should remember that. These same people wouldn't put up with the crap that's
dished out at any other business they deal with.
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The problem with most marinas is that the owner runs the place as if it were a
club and your lucky to belong.

Hate to agree with Loco, but he's right. Many Marina's act like you're an
unwanted guest...AFTER they take your money.

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"katysails" wrote in message ...
Haggie observed: I don't
think the marinas care about their reputations anymore, there are probably
10 boats waiting for every slip around here.

That was one of the reasons we switched to a mooring and the yacht club
environment. The marina that we had been at for years became "popular" with
a certain sort of boater, and all of a sudden there was a waiting list.
Along with that came a nonchalance about work performed by the yard. When
confronted about mistakes, or poor quality workmanship, they would laugh it
off and refuse to make good. If they didn't feel like performing some type
of work they would quote an exorbitant figure to make you go elsewhere. And
when sailing is supposed to be your "release" from the rest of the daily
crud, who needs problems there?


My place is real popular with the Speedboat/Cigarboat freaks. But they
have only 3 uncovered sailboat slips. Most sailboaters will not come
here because of the noise the powerboaters make. But the pbr's hate it
when it to hot, and when its to cold, so I have most of the time the
place to myself. They pay out the nose for thier covered slips. The
marina owner give me a good deal because he want's me to live here and
watch out for things. I'm offical F dock security, I run off all the
fishing guys and lovers that want to use the island. Ive lived at
several marinas and can tell you the only way I will ever get a better
deal is if I buy my marina. I have my eye on 3 acres of deep water
fronted land. But the asking price is 300K. It would make a nice 3-4
boat marina and allow me space to build a house. It has a small cinder
block type storage house on it now. It borders a wildlife refuge of
6000+ acres and I will never have to worry about the surrounding land
being developed. Just need the 300K. Donations accepted!

Joe
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On Sun, 23 May 2004 09:01:05 -0400, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

Haggie observed: I don't
think the marinas care about their reputations anymore, there are probably
10 boats waiting for every slip around here.

That was one of the reasons we switched to a mooring and the yacht club
environment. The marina that we had been at for years became "popular" with
a certain sort of boater, and all of a sudden there was a waiting list.
Along with that came a nonchalance about work performed by the yard. When
confronted about mistakes, or poor quality workmanship, they would laugh it
off and refuse to make good. If they didn't feel like performing some type
of work they would quote an exorbitant figure to make you go elsewhere. And
when sailing is supposed to be your "release" from the rest of the daily
crud, who needs problems there?


Ever try dry sailing, or rack-and-launch? It's becoming very popular.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!
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Horvath asked:
Ever try dry sailing, or rack-and-launch? It's becoming very popular.

We trailer sailed for many years...it's a PITA....and dry-racking a 32' foot
sailboat to sail every week? Kind of pricey, don't ya think? And then you
don't have the use of your boat any time you want, like those evenings
during the week when we just want to get out of here and drive out for a
quiet evening on the boat....
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And then you
don't have the use of your boat any time you want, like those evenings
during the week when we just want to get out of here and drive out for a
quiet evening on the boat....

Every dry sail arrangement I've ever seen allows you one in and out every day
you want.
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Sail Loco said: Every dry sail arrangement I've ever seen allows you one in
and out every day
you want.

There is no such thing like that in West MI except in Grand Haven, where
they actively dissuade sailors from that marina...but that's ok since they
watch the sewer overflow from the Grand River during floods pass by...I'd
pull my boat everyday too, if I had to contend with that....

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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein




 
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