No, not at all. I said turn down the volume, not shut up.

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"katysails" wrote in message
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Jon said: Well, you see the problem is the volume. The people who are
non-religious
are generally pretty laid back, quite, taking it all in. The people here
who
claim to be religious go on and on and on. Turn down the volume, then I
don't have a problem with it.

Ah...censure them...

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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

WELL SAID SIR!

CM

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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| Joe;
|
| The Name of my boat is "Pneuma" It means, unseen force or spirit.
|
| You know I believe in a Presence after human death. I don't think we are
| meant to have Knowledge of Presence. Not in our Human form.
|
| We don't know why we have water but we do. For centuries we've had it.
| It is a fact. It's there,yet we haven't produced a single gallon on our
| own from scratch. We can't explain why we have a liveable atmosphere but
| we do, In spite of everything we have done to destroy it No one knows
| why but it is there.
|
| There are many,many things that exist without our knowledge. Things that
| are maintained at a proper level without our understanding.
|
| "PNEUMA" is that condition maintained by unseen, unknown spirits. There
| isn't any good reason why you or I should dought that Pneuma isn't made
| up of Spirits that once had Human Form? Proof, I have none. Belief, ah
| yes, that I have
|
| And: "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"
|
| Ole Thom
| SV Pneuma
| Gulf 29 Pilothouse Sloop
|

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
| Yeah, we have, been done for years. Combine hydrogen & oxygen and you
| get H2O. Easy.

Sure... we know that now....... 100 years ago it would be a problem. It's
still a problem now really because I haven't figured out how to do that in
my back yard.... which is why I have to "witch" a well. Can you spell
"aquifer"..... ????


CM

"katysails" wrote in message
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| Thom asked:
| Then can I conclude that EVIL came with Knowledge
|
| No... evil always existed as a potential wherever there is free
| will....without a conscience, man did not have free will....once a
| conscience developed, he chose to do evil freely....

That's Wrong!

With Knowledge comes responsibility.... that's the item we are having a
problem with.... not the actual knowledge. I believe everyone will do good
if given the opportunity to do so..... and many will do "evil" if not given
the opportunity to do good.

Your responsibility is to allow everyone to have the option to do good......
that involves removing self interest and pride from the equation.... a
difficult option since it conflicts with survival and the Darwinian Theory
of Evolution ...... is altruism a fallacy?

You live your life as a direct mirror image of what you put out......

I like you Kitty... your heart is in the right place and you wish the best
for everyone.... that is what will be reflected back to you..... that's the
pay-off!!

CM

In article , Capt. Mooron
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
| Yeah, we have, been done for years. Combine hydrogen & oxygen and you
| get H2O. Easy.

Sure... we know that now....... 100 years ago it would be a problem. It's
still a problem now really because I haven't figured out how to do that in
my back yard.... which is why I have to "witch" a well. Can you spell
"aquifer"..... ????

Well, if you stacked all the ice up in winter, you'd have no probs with
water supply in what passes for summer. Simple :-)

Sort of point is, a lot of stuff we don't know how to do today might
fall into the same category in another 100 years, so labelling stuff
impossible unless done by some higher power is kinda silly IMO. Donal's
comments WRT time for evolution are plain dumb. Even molecular
biologists can't guarantee results, the x-over of plant genes to/from
bacteria and virii is really interesting and while people thought it'd
happen, the speed of it happening has been a real eye-opener.
Genengineered plant traits are defining cases.

PDW

Combining them is the easy part. Separating is the costly part.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
| Yeah, we have, been done for years. Combine hydrogen & oxygen and you
| get H2O. Easy.

Sure... we know that now....... 100 years ago it would be a problem.
It's
still a problem now really because I haven't figured out how to do that in
my back yard.... which is why I have to "witch" a well. Can you spell
"aquifer"..... ????


CM