Wally asked: the ultimate
missing-the-forest-for-the-trees, yes/no?

Yes, but you'll never get some here to understand that and it just becomes
an argument....

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"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Wally asked: the ultimate
missing-the-forest-for-the-trees, yes/no?

Yes, but you'll never get some here to understand that and it just becomes
an argument....

Perfect example of the scary unthinking refuge taken by the religious. It is
not benign because it's part of the greatest effort to control people ever
invented. It's sub-charters are behind the most horrific acts in history.
Can't see the forest for the trees? Yeah, okay.

RB

Perfect example of the scary unthinking refuge taken by the religious. It is
not benign because it's part of the greatest effort to control people ever
invented. It's sub-charters are behind the most horrific acts in history.
Can't see the forest for the trees? Yeah, okay.

RB

We're only talking about the existence of God here, Bob. We're not defending
the religious. You're comparing apples and oranges. I hate the religious, and
as you can see, I believe in God. But here's the thing: the religious don't
believe in God. If they did, they would live as if there was a God.

We're only talking about the existence of God here, Bob. We're not defending
the religious.


The creation of a diety invites religion, just as hate invites racism.

RB

The creation of a diety invites religion, just as hate invites racism.

RB

You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

The creation of a diety invites religion, just as hate invites racism.

RB

You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

The baby needs to be aborted.

RB

But here's the thing: the religious don't
believe in God. If they did, they would live as if there was a God.

Ed, you're making braod, sweeping generalities just like BS does....there
are plenty of religious people that believe in God and act in a Godlike
manner...Mother Theresa comes to mind as the first...Mahatma Ghandi
secondly, and the Dali Lama third....and there are many more....there are
expceptions everywhere...it is not religion that is badm it is what mankind
does with it that is bad....

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

it is not religion that is badm it is what mankind
does with it that is bad....


Since faith promotes ignorance, it's more than likely that it will turn out
badly most of the time...and so it has. I have quite a few friends who are
agnostic and athiest and they are the most peaceful people ever. Strange that I
can't say the same for my friends who have "faith."

RB

RB

Since faith promotes ignorance, it's more than likely that it will turn out
badly most of the time...and so it has. I have quite a few friends who are
agnostic and athiest and they are the most peaceful people ever. Strange that
can't say the same for my friends who have "faith."

I know where you're coming from, Bob. But you're fabricating reasons. You don't
care if there is or is not a God. So what? You will live how you believe,
regardless of what you profess. There either will be "God" or there won't be
regardless what anyone says they believe. Besides, I'm a monist. So to me, you
saying you don't believe in God is just that aspect of God that tries to deny
himself to maintain the illusion of creation. That's why I don't care what you
say you believe or don't believe.

That's why I don't care what you
say you believe or don't believe.


As pointed out, this is the very essense of closed mindedness.
I NEVER said that I don't believe in god. I just think "god" is HIGHLY
unlikely. One of us is open minded...and it isn't you.

RB