my RF has it's own halyard, so-to-speak.

!!!!!Bwahahaha!!! I'm not kidding. Scotty Potti is a total idiot..so to speak.

RB

You'll have to explain how that works. I was taught there's no such thing as a
free lunch.

Remember, a Nonsuch 30 has a 540 sq ft main and requires end of boom sheeting.
The mast is about 27 feet from the stern, and the optimal downwind angle is 180
degrees in any wind.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Since a Nonsuch is often sailed more like a dinghy, and the
amount of line you have to haul in to go from dead downwind to close hauled is
huge (about 70 feet) it was very nice.

Buy a Harken double ended mainsheet fiddle. You could pull in twice as much
line with the same effort.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

You'll have to explain how that works. I was taught there's no such thing
as a
free lunch..

Just pick up a Harken catalog.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

I've thought about that but rejected it as on Ella the topping lift wire
is too small to be used as a main halyard. Is yours wire or braid and
how does it compare in size to your main halyard?

Cheers

Jeff Morris wrote:

Roller furling still has a halyard - how else would it get up there? I have
main, jib and spinnaker, plus a spare messenger on a sheave, plus a flag
halyard. In a pinch, the topping lift could be used as a halyard.




"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| BTW.... how many halyards do you have on Alien??
|
| 5. Can you name them?

WOW... you have 5 sheaves on your masthead?? I only have 4 halyards.....
but I can rig and run 6 on my mast...all internal. Hey... maybe I'll use my
old main and jib halyard to run all 6 this year. Then again all my jibs are
hank ons so the feasibility of running two jibs on one forestay exist.

I carry 2 main halyards and 2 jib halyards.... one of which doubles as a
spinnaker halyard.

I thought you had roller furling? If so.... I'd be hard pressed to figure
why you have 5 halyards... unless 3 of them are never used. I've never seen
a photo of Alien with a chute.... or a storm trysail rigged.

CM

Wonder why it got called a lift?

Cheers

Bobsprit wrote:

In a pinch, the topping lift could be used as a halyard.


Good point. And technically the topping lift IS a halyard.

RB

What does it measure, tangles in a line?

Cheers

Bobsprit wrote:

You had brand new standing rigging inspected? Man... that costs money up
here.It's a C-note service call.

I had the fittings inspected and it cost me nothing. The fellow who does the
work for my yard is a close friend. Of course, I had to help him install and
adjust a knotmeter last week.

RB

Huh?

Cheers

SAIL LOCO wrote:

Since a Nonsuch is often sailed more like a dinghy, and the
amount of line you have to haul in to go from dead downwind to close hauled is
huge (about 70 feet) it was very nice.

Buy a Harken double ended mainsheet fiddle. You could pull in twice as much
line with the same effort.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...

Buy a Harken double ended mainsheet fiddle. You could pull in twice as much
line with the same effort.


You'll have to explain how that works. I was taught there's no such thing
as a free lunch.

Just pick up a Harken catalog.

I'm sorry - I keep looking through the catalog and can't find anything that
pulls twice as much line with the same effort. If I put two together will it do
4 times as much with the same effort? How about 10? Then I could jibe only
pulling an inch, with the same effort!

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 10 May 2004 14:20:44 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
scribbled thusly:

You'll have to explain how that works. I was taught there's no such thing as
a
free lunch.

Remember, a Nonsuch 30 has a 540 sq ft main and requires end of boom
sheeting.
The mast is about 27 feet from the stern, and the optimal downwind angle is
180
degrees in any wind.

even more reason to have a dual system.
Hauling an end boom sheeted main is a breeze with only minimal
purchase then when the load goes on you cleat off the coarse and
switch to the fine end for trimming.
You'll be amazed at the amount of sheet you save by knocking out a
couple of purchases.

The stock setup only has 2:1 purchase to start. Some people reduce that to 1:1
in light air when racing, but I never raced my Nonsuch so I never bothered.


You can then have a higher purchase system on the fine because you're
trimming over a shorter distance.

I suppose this would be of some value to a racer, but the real win with the
wishbone rig is the ability to shape the sail while underway with the choker and
topping lift.


Gybes wil be a breeze because you can centre the main so much faster
without the extra line to haul.

Its hard to have much less than 2:1. If the wind was light, I would just reach
out and grab the doubled sheet and haul that in, effectively 1:1. If the wind
was so strong I couldn't haul the mainsheet by hand, I usually did a "chicken
jibe," tacking around, rather wondering if the boom would explode in a real
jibe.

Bobsprit wrote:

I flew the spin maybe 5 or 6 times last season, ...

5 or 6 times in a whole season?? You are *kidding*, right?


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