Kerry only served 4 mo. in Vietnam and he pinned on 3 Purple Hearts.

Sounds like Magnet Ass the Raven pilot. But he kept flying.

Capt. American

Capt.American wrote:
Kerry only served 4 mo. in Vietnam and he pinned on 3 Purple Hearts.

Sounds like bad luck all right. OTOH the PBRs were right in the thick of
it. They covered more area and interdicted more VC traffic (there are a
lot more rivers in Viet Nam than roads) than most ground units would.

Some years ago, by random chance I picked up 'My Father, My Son' by Elmo
Zumwalt Jr and Sr. It was a riveting book, one of the few I have read in
my life that I literally could not put down. He gives a very good and
careful account of river combat in Viet Nam.


Sounds like Magnet Ass the Raven pilot.

LOL now there's a nickname that nobody wants.

Now tell us again why you feel compelled to repeat all this slander
propogated by Bush & Cheney Inc? Are you worried that they might lose
the upcoming election if you don't bust a gut trying to make Kerry look bad?

Regards
Doug King

DSK wrote in message .. .
Capt.American wrote:
Kerry only served 4 mo. in Vietnam and he pinned on 3 Purple Hearts.

Sounds like bad luck all right. OTOH the PBRs were right in the thick of
it. They covered more area and interdicted more VC traffic (there are a
lot more rivers in Viet Nam than roads) than most ground units would.

Agreeded but 3 in 4 mo, come on. And with only 4 mo in country he
never had the time to learn anything. Sounds like a green recruit
going gung ho ****ting his pants pops of a few thousand ma duce rounds
then runs home. PT 109 it was not. Tell me about the boat and crew you
knew like the back of your hand in 4 mo.


Some years ago, by random chance I picked up 'My Father, My Son' by Elmo
Zumwalt Jr and Sr. It was a riveting book, one of the few I have read in
my life that I literally could not put down. He gives a very good and
careful account of river combat in Viet Nam.

I'll check it out. Sounds like my kind of book.



Sounds like Magnet Ass the Raven pilot.

LOL now there's a nickname that nobody wants.

Yeah he was one of those Laos CIA pilots, he was a fac shot down to
many times


Now tell us again why you feel compelled to repeat all this slander
propogated by Bush & Cheney Inc?

Is it slander if it's the truth?


Are you worried that they might lose
the upcoming election if you don't bust a gut trying to make Kerry look bad?


No not really. All I want is a president that will follow thru and
squash
any terrorist group that even sneezes towards the USA. Someone that
will spit in the face of terrorist demands. Not someone that is
whissey wasshey and dont know where the fight is.

Capt. American




Capt. American


Regards
Doug King

What happened? Did you miss the first 11 steps in your 12 step?

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DSK wrote in message
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Capt.American wrote:
Kerry only served 4 mo. in Vietnam and he pinned on 3 Purple Hearts.

Sounds like bad luck all right. OTOH the PBRs were right in the thick of
it. They covered more area and interdicted more VC traffic (there are a
lot more rivers in Viet Nam than roads) than most ground units would.

Agreeded but 3 in 4 mo, come on. And with only 4 mo in country he
never had the time to learn anything. Sounds like a green recruit
going gung ho ****ting his pants pops of a few thousand ma duce rounds
then runs home. PT 109 it was not. Tell me about the boat and crew you
knew like the back of your hand in 4 mo.


Some years ago, by random chance I picked up 'My Father, My Son' by Elmo
Zumwalt Jr and Sr. It was a riveting book, one of the few I have read in
my life that I literally could not put down. He gives a very good and
careful account of river combat in Viet Nam.

I'll check it out. Sounds like my kind of book.



Sounds like Magnet Ass the Raven pilot.

LOL now there's a nickname that nobody wants.

Yeah he was one of those Laos CIA pilots, he was a fac shot down to
many times


Now tell us again why you feel compelled to repeat all this slander
propogated by Bush & Cheney Inc?

Is it slander if it's the truth?


Are you worried that they might lose
the upcoming election if you don't bust a gut trying to make Kerry look
bad?


No not really. All I want is a president that will follow thru and
squash
any terrorist group that even sneezes towards the USA. Someone that
will spit in the face of terrorist demands. Not someone that is
whissey wasshey and dont know where the fight is.

Capt. American




Capt. American


Regards
Doug King

"Capt.American" wrote...
Tell me about the boat and crew you
knew like the back of your hand in 4 mo.

Shucks, any boat I've raced... takes only a couple of afternoons.



Some years ago, by random chance I picked up 'My Father, My Son'
by Elmo
Zumwalt Jr and Sr. It was a riveting book, one of the few I have
read in
my life that I literally could not put down. He gives a very good and
careful account of river combat in Viet Nam.


I'll check it out. Sounds like my kind of book.

I should warn you that Elmo Zumwalt Junior died of cancer due to his
exposure to Agent Orange, which his father ordered sprayed all over the
PBR operating zones. About half the book is about his childhood and his
dying, from the point of view of both men. Back when I was in the Navy,
people made fun of Adm. Zumwalt, but after reading this book I will not.





Now tell us again why you feel compelled to repeat all this slander
propogated by Bush & Cheney Inc?


Is it slander if it's the truth?

Is it? Kerry went to Viet Nam and got shot at. Bush went AWOL (in
between DUIs) and lied about it. Simple fact. Frankly I don't believe
anything either party says, but bear inmind that Bush & Cheney Inc have
at least 5X the advertising budget.




... All I want is a president that will follow thru and
squash
any terrorist group that even sneezes towards the USA. Someone that
will spit in the face of terrorist demands. Not someone that is
whissey wasshey and dont know where the fight is.

Considering what a chicken**** Bush was on Sept 11th, at first not
reacting at all, then running away and hiding, and then lying about it,
I don't see how you think he is going to ever do any of those things. At
least Kerry performed under fire, whatever you may think of his actions
since then.

DSK

DSK wrote in message .. .
"Capt.American" wrote...
Tell me about the boat and crew you
knew like the back of your hand in 4 mo.

Shucks, any boat I've raced... takes only a couple of afternoons.


Perhaps a sunfish. But I doubt it. I've sailed several boat for
years and never did feel that I could not learn more. Always a way to
get just a little more out of her.



Some years ago, by random chance I picked up 'My Father, My Son'
by Elmo
Zumwalt Jr and Sr. It was a riveting book, one of the few I have
read in
my life that I literally could not put down. He gives a very good and
careful account of river combat in Viet Nam.


I'll check it out. Sounds like my kind of book.

I should warn you that Elmo Zumwalt Junior died of cancer due to his
exposure to Agent Orange, which his father ordered sprayed all over the
PBR operating zones.

Hind site is always 20/20. Im sure Elmo Sr was dupped by the dupont
clan as others were at the time.



About half the book is about his childhood and his
dying, from the point of view of both men.


Back when I was in the Navy,
people made fun of Adm. Zumwalt, but after reading this book I will not.


Any body that served honorably deserves respect even Kerry.

It sure would be nice to have the chance to elect a President that
was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth.




Now tell us again why you feel compelled to repeat all this slander
propogated by Bush & Cheney Inc?


Is it slander if it's the truth?

Is it? Kerry went to Viet Nam and got shot at. Bush went AWOL (in
between DUIs) and lied about it. Simple fact. Frankly I don't believe
anything either party says, but bear inmind that Bush & Cheney Inc have
at least 5X the advertising budget.


That IMO is the big problem with politics today. Money should be
taken out of the equation. All persons nominated for president should
be given the same amount of money to wage a campian. Anyone caught
taking special interest money should be charged with a crime.






... All I want is a president that will follow thru and
squash
any terrorist group that even sneezes towards the USA. Someone that
will spit in the face of terrorist demands. Not someone that is
whissey wasshey and dont know where the fight is.

Considering what a chicken**** Bush was on Sept 11th, at first not
reacting at all, then running away and hiding, and then lying about it,
I don't see how you think he is going to ever do any of those things. At
least Kerry performed under fire, whatever you may think of his actions
since then.



Performance should be judged against all the preformed. Many Vets
spent several tours received purple hearts and chose to stay and
finish the job and cover their buddies back. Kerry IMO was trying to
become president even back then. He stuck his neck out and found out
that the real world is not staffed with servents in white coats
bringing you drinks on deck of a PBR. He ventured were
the common man was getting killed or was killing every day and he
coulden't hang. Thats what worries me. If he become president and we
have to continue a fierce fight against terrorist and terrorist
supporting states will he be able to hang in there to the bitter end.
Regardless of the cost. We have all seen what low down dirty sticking
MF terrorist are and there willingness to kill and we must have a
leader that is willing to kill them before they kill us. Vietnam had
some ruthless **** going on but it is nothing on the scale of
ruthlessness that ossama is willing to sink to. We need to stomp and
stomp hard. No more sucker punches needed for me to get the message,
**** I got the message when the USS Cole was attacked. I hate to say
it but I think this war has just begun.

Do you think Kerry will stick it out, or will he side with the Bagdad
Janes of the world and walk down that path he walked before?.


Capt. American



DSK

Better than The Cheater and Lying Asshole from Kennebunkport via Crawford.

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Kerry only served 4 mo. in Vietnam and he pinned on 3 Purple Hearts.

Sounds like Magnet Ass the Raven pilot. But he kept flying.

Capt. American