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Jonathan Ganz March 8th 04 09:52 PM

Nattering Nabobs of Nowhere
 
Interesting reference to butts... I suspect you're most interested
in guy's.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
om...
So far, NNN = over the nee, jeffies and joony

not one of them could find his ass in the dark even with an RDF.

Butt I, boys and girls would have no problem sniffing out there asses
in the dark. Soon.

JAXie




Jeff Morris March 8th 04 10:03 PM

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 
The "Nattering Nabobs of Negativity" speech was written by William Safire.
Where have we heard that name before?



"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I don't think paraphrasing Agnew is going to add to your credibility
(as though you have any!)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, you can't even explain how RDF works, yet you "read somewhere"

that it
"can be" accurate to 2*, and **you** KNOW it is accurate to 6*.

you are one of the Nattering Nabobs of Nowhere, jeffies, a dolt.

You're cracking me up jaxie ... what are you going to reveal? That no

one
ever
used RDF? That no one ever cruised before GPS was invented?

Are you going to deny that government publications say accuracy can be as
good
as 2 degrees? You've been trying to say I claimed 2 degrees, but I said

"I
generally assumed I'd get no better the 5 degrees." You keep talking

about
granite ledges but I said I used it when running down the coast or for
approaches. You do know what an "approach" is? No? I didn't think so.

So what ... are you going to show the accuracy was only 6 or 7 degrees?

Or
that sometimes signals were bent by shoreline affect? None of this

matters
when
you're using it to home in on an offshore light. The bottom line is the

RDF
was
the best tool we had for certain purposes. Everybody understood that it

had
limitations, but we also knew how to use it.

So while we're talking about "twisting slowly in the wind" you still

haven't
explain why you thought you were 10 miles off course when you had 3 GPS's

on
board?



"JAXAshby" is ...
twisting slowly in the wind.

no, over the nee, I am going to let you twist slowly in the wind. I
know
why
you are lost in a fog but you don't. I asked you explain how RDF
equipment
works and you don't have a clew. you and jeffies are huffing and
puffing
in
the sandbox. if you were big enough to wear a jockstrap you

wouldn't be
bragging about maybe someday owning one.

But I will give you a hint as to what to consider in trying to
understand
why
RDF is less accurate by far than you guys are claiming. Think,

"dinner
plate".

Jax, if you want some long winded technical discussion on radio waves,
loop antennas, etc., go read the book ....again.
The subject at hand here, is making use of the information, received,
knowing it's limitations, knowing the corrections which may need to be
applied, and translating that information into a useful navigation

tool
as it was used in the past, to make approaches to land and/or avoid
dangers.
Once again, you need to go back and re-read the section on possible
accuracy, then try and comprehend how a navigator might incorporate

that
possible error into his route planning or navigation.
As I've said before and will continue to say, you are a product of

GPS,
with no real sense of what is going on around you .... you may know

what
the book says, but you don't understand how to use it.

otn


























JAXAshby March 8th 04 10:45 PM

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 
tick tock.

Why should I google it? You've obviously been doing that for two days now.
But even so, you had no idea it could be used for distance off. You had no
idea
you could combine a RDF LOP with an other type of line. You had no idea you
could use two different radiobeacons. And you don't even know what an
"approach" is. Pretty pathetic, jaxie. What have you ever done on a boat
other
than hang over the side?

Come on Jaxie - Why are you so terrified of being with GPS? Why were you
lost?
If 3 isn't enough, how many GPS's do you need to find Cape Hatteras?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
keep going, jeffies. 2*, eh? 5*? 6*

you did not then, and do not now, have a clew WTF you said.

I suggest you bone up on your back peddling skills. Soon, you will need

them.

RDF is simple, jeffies, and you couldn't even find diddly on it even by
googling. If, on the other hand, you knew how it worked you wouldn't have

made
your dumb statements, would you.

Why should I explain it to you? Why does anyone care? No one doubts that
RDF
was commonly used, and no one really cares whether I used it. You're just
trying
to lay a trap, but its as transparent as your other junior high school

ploys.

But you can explain two things to us - why are you so terrified of the
concept
of sailing without GPS, and why were you lost when you had 3 GPS's on

board?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, you can't even explain how RDF works, yet you "read somewhere"
that
it
"can be" accurate to 2*, and **you** KNOW it is accurate to 6*.

you are one of the Nattering Nabobs of Nowhere, jeffies, a dolt.

You're cracking me up jaxie ... what are you going to reveal? That no

one
ever
used RDF? That no one ever cruised before GPS was invented?

Are you going to deny that government publications say accuracy can be

as
good
as 2 degrees? You've been trying to say I claimed 2 degrees, but I

said
"I
generally assumed I'd get no better the 5 degrees." You keep talking
about
granite ledges but I said I used it when running down the coast or for
approaches. You do know what an "approach" is? No? I didn't think

so.

So what ... are you going to show the accuracy was only 6 or 7 degrees?
Or
that sometimes signals were bent by shoreline affect? None of this
matters
when
you're using it to home in on an offshore light. The bottom line is

the
RDF
was
the best tool we had for certain purposes. Everybody understood that

it
had
limitations, but we also knew how to use it.

So while we're talking about "twisting slowly in the wind" you still
haven't
explain why you thought you were 10 miles off course when you had 3

GPS's
on
board?



"JAXAshby" is ...
twisting slowly in the wind.

no, over the nee, I am going to let you twist slowly in the wind.

I
know
why
you are lost in a fog but you don't. I asked you explain how RDF
equipment
works and you don't have a clew. you and jeffies are huffing and
puffing
in
the sandbox. if you were big enough to wear a jockstrap you

wouldn't
be
bragging about maybe someday owning one.

But I will give you a hint as to what to consider in trying to
understand
why
RDF is less accurate by far than you guys are claiming. Think,
"dinner
plate".

Jax, if you want some long winded technical discussion on radio

waves,
loop antennas, etc., go read the book ....again.
The subject at hand here, is making use of the information,

received,
knowing it's limitations, knowing the corrections which may need to

be
applied, and translating that information into a useful navigation

tool
as it was used in the past, to make approaches to land and/or avoid
dangers.
Once again, you need to go back and re-read the section on possible
accuracy, then try and comprehend how a navigator might incorporate
that
possible error into his route planning or navigation.
As I've said before and will continue to say, you are a product of

GPS,
with no real sense of what is going on around you .... you may know
what
the book says, but you don't understand how to use it.

otn










































JAXAshby March 8th 04 10:47 PM

Nattering Nabobs of Nowhere
 
joony, *if* you were a tad more bright you *might* have noticed
" in clown's ID line.




Interesting reference to butts... I suspect you're most interested
in guy's.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
. com...
So far, NNN = over the nee, jeffies and joony

not one of them could find his ass in the dark even with an RDF.

Butt I, boys and girls would have no problem sniffing out there asses
in the dark. Soon.

JAXie












Jeff Morris March 8th 04 10:50 PM

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 
Watch out! He's Gonna Blow!!

"JAXAshby" started making funny sonds:
tick tock.




Jonathan Ganz March 8th 04 11:49 PM

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 
Yep, and Agnew used it. I think he and jaxass are in the same
class... low.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
The "Nattering Nabobs of Negativity" speech was written by William Safire.
Where have we heard that name before?



"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I don't think paraphrasing Agnew is going to add to your credibility
(as though you have any!)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, you can't even explain how RDF works, yet you "read

somewhere"
that it
"can be" accurate to 2*, and **you** KNOW it is accurate to 6*.

you are one of the Nattering Nabobs of Nowhere, jeffies, a dolt.

You're cracking me up jaxie ... what are you going to reveal? That

no
one
ever
used RDF? That no one ever cruised before GPS was invented?

Are you going to deny that government publications say accuracy can

be as
good
as 2 degrees? You've been trying to say I claimed 2 degrees, but I

said
"I
generally assumed I'd get no better the 5 degrees." You keep talking

about
granite ledges but I said I used it when running down the coast or

for
approaches. You do know what an "approach" is? No? I didn't think

so.

So what ... are you going to show the accuracy was only 6 or 7

degrees?
Or
that sometimes signals were bent by shoreline affect? None of this

matters
when
you're using it to home in on an offshore light. The bottom line is

the
RDF
was
the best tool we had for certain purposes. Everybody understood

that it
had
limitations, but we also knew how to use it.

So while we're talking about "twisting slowly in the wind" you still

haven't
explain why you thought you were 10 miles off course when you had 3

GPS's
on
board?



"JAXAshby" is ...
twisting slowly in the wind.

no, over the nee, I am going to let you twist slowly in the

wind. I
know
why
you are lost in a fog but you don't. I asked you explain how

RDF
equipment
works and you don't have a clew. you and jeffies are huffing

and
puffing
in
the sandbox. if you were big enough to wear a jockstrap you

wouldn't be
bragging about maybe someday owning one.

But I will give you a hint as to what to consider in trying to
understand
why
RDF is less accurate by far than you guys are claiming. Think,

"dinner
plate".

Jax, if you want some long winded technical discussion on radio

waves,
loop antennas, etc., go read the book ....again.
The subject at hand here, is making use of the information,

received,
knowing it's limitations, knowing the corrections which may need

to be
applied, and translating that information into a useful navigation

tool
as it was used in the past, to make approaches to land and/or

avoid
dangers.
Once again, you need to go back and re-read the section on

possible
accuracy, then try and comprehend how a navigator might

incorporate
that
possible error into his route planning or navigation.
As I've said before and will continue to say, you are a product of

GPS,
with no real sense of what is going on around you .... you may

know
what
the book says, but you don't understand how to use it.

otn




























Jonathan Ganz March 8th 04 11:50 PM

Nattering Nabobs of Nowhere
 
jaxass, it doesn't matter who said it. if the shoe fits, wear it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
joony, *if* you were a tad more bright you *might* have noticed
" in clown's ID line.




Interesting reference to butts... I suspect you're most interested
in guy's.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
. com...
So far, NNN = over the nee, jeffies and joony

not one of them could find his ass in the dark even with an RDF.

Butt I, boys and girls would have no problem sniffing out there asses
in the dark. Soon.

JAXie














JAXAshby March 9th 04 01:20 AM

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 
jeffies askes:

The "Nattering Nabobs of Negativity" speech was written by William Safire.
Where have we heard that name before?


Wiliam Safire is the novelist who wrote "Scandelmongers", "Full Disclosure" and
a "Sleeper Spy".

I enjoyed "Sleeper Spy", and I recall learning from it that the term "parting
shot" was more properly "Parthian Shot", named for a battle technique used by
warriors from Parthia. I am not sure, but I believe a Parthian general was
named in the Illiad or the Odessey, and hence from which came the name.




Jeff Morris March 9th 04 03:58 AM

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 
The reference I was thinking of was to Safire's column in the NYT magazine about
how Bush cleverly avoided use the phrase "imminent threat."



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies askes:

The "Nattering Nabobs of Negativity" speech was written by William Safire.
Where have we heard that name before?


Wiliam Safire is the novelist who wrote "Scandelmongers", "Full Disclosure"

and
a "Sleeper Spy".

I enjoyed "Sleeper Spy", and I recall learning from it that the term "parting
shot" was more properly "Parthian Shot", named for a battle technique used by
warriors from Parthia. I am not sure, but I believe a Parthian general was
named in the Illiad or the Odessey, and hence from which came the name.






JAXAshby March 9th 04 04:06 AM

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 
The reference I was thinking of was to Safire ... the novelist who wrote
"Scandelmongers", "Full Disclosure"
and
a "Sleeper Spy".

jeffie,


one of the Nattering Nabobs of Knighted Nowhere.


jeffies askes:

The "Nattering Nabobs of Negativity" speech was written by William Safire.
Where have we heard that name before?


Wiliam Safire is the novelist who wrote "Scandelmongers", "Full Disclosure"

and
a "Sleeper Spy".

I enjoyed "Sleeper Spy", and I recall learning from it that the term

"parting
shot" was more properly "Parthian Shot", named for a battle technique used

by
warriors from Parthia. I am not sure, but I believe a Parthian general was
named in the Illiad or the Odessey, and hence from which came the name.















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