How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 

no, I was actually saying that wandering around in a fog using RDF where a nav
error of 6 or 10 or 15 degrees could sink your boat is stew ped, and if you
happened to survive well you were lucky. Others weren't.

I was also wondering just how you used the paper sextant you claimed you had in
a fog without the moisture making it come apart (nevermind how you used a
sextant in a fog at all).

if you believe in a God at all jeffies, you should fall down on your knees and
pray thanksgiving for Him saving your sorry butt from your own dumbness.

an *this* was accurate to what??

2 degrees? 5 degrees? what the hell knows how many degrees?

dude, wandering around in unknown waters with a obstacles nearby using an
RDF
was stew ped. That *you* might have survived means only that *you* were
lucky,
NOT fricken smart.

Get over it, AND thank your lucky stars.

Jaxie has just declared that it was impossible to cruise New England waters
before the invention of GPS! Maybe that explains why there are no boats in
Yarmouth, Freeport, Harpswell, Cundy's, Robinhood, Booth Bay, Linekin,
Pemiquid,
Friendship, Muscongus, Tenant's, Rockland, Rockport, Camden, Belfast,
Searsport,
Castine, North Haven, Vinalhaven, Stonington, Brooklin, Blue Hill, Swans
Island,
Isle au Haut, Criehaven, Matinicus, Frenchboro, Bass Harbor, Southwest
Harbor,
Northeast Harbor, Cranberry Harbor ... And that's before you actually get
"Downeast!"

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 

over the nee, you are incoherant. sleep it off.

I've used them on ships


*that* of course is exactly the same as a recreational sailboat.

Nope, but you don't have enough knowledge to know that, cause, .....it
could be.



I had one on my 26' Contessa,


yes, of course. that explains all.

Nope, but you wouldn't understand what it DOES explain.


which I was
able to use to get some relatively accurate fixes (at least accurate
enough for my needs).


sure, plus or minus 100%, distance. good enough to miss the granite ledges
60
yards away, right?

ROFLMAO .... further confirmation that you don't KNOW or UNDERSTAND
marine navigation. YOU are AGAIN a product of GPS !! YOU don't know or
understand how to navigate, unless you are guaranteed a position, to
within inches or feet.
Stay on the dock, Jax. You're an amateur buffoon, kinda like the idiot I
watched coming into port this afternoon. (small IO, coming from sea and
heading for Port Hueneme [private boats are not allowed in Port
Hueneme]. I bet everyone he had set his GPS waypoint to PH seabuoy and
would then take a heading to Channel Islands harbor .... even though he
could see it. He did, but like Jax, wasn't sure, so he made a round turn
and finally headed off .... course, the fact that he could see me coming
at him with zero concern as to where he was may have affected his
decision to bugaloo west.

otn


otn

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 

an you slept through the class where accuracy was explained.

Have you any idea what the term "ellipse of uncertainty" means?

obviously not.
sure, plus or minus 100%, distance. good enough to miss the granite ledges
60
yards away, right?

I guess you slept through the class where they explained how to get distance
off
from a radiobeacon.

How many beers before jaxie starts to make sense?
 

Jeff,

It could be. In old age you do find a lot of uses for the FIST! :^)

OT

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 

Could you please explain how you graduated from jr. high. I think
it would be of great interest to the idiots other than yourself.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
no, over the nee, I am going to let you twist slowly in the wind. I know
why
you are lost in a fog but you don't. I asked you explain how RDF
equipment
works and you don't have a clew. you and jeffies are huffing and puffing
in
the sandbox. if you were big enough to wear a jockstrap you wouldn't be
bragging about maybe someday owning one.

But I will give you a hint as to what to consider in trying to understand
why
RDF is less accurate by far than you guys are claiming. Think, "dinner
plate".

OK, Jax, oh great boat show navigator....tell us how RDF works.
I need a good laugh.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
kinda a strange way, jeffies, for you to tell us you were unable to
google
enough info to back up your claim that you have known for years how RDF
works.


Stay away from Maine, "Turn-Back-Jaxie," its way too scary for you! If
you
thought the "rocks" at Hatteras were so scary you wanted to turn back,
you
have
no business cruising where there are real rocks!

BOO!

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 

okay, explain your understanding of the term. make mention as to why it is
important in terms of traveling around granite ledges.

Have you any idea what the term "ellipse of uncertainty" means?


Sure, yours is of galactic proportions!

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 

So, just let me make sure I understand you. Are you saying that 6, 10, or
15 degrees could sink your boat? I believe many boats sail with these
figures.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
no, I was actually saying that wandering around in a fog using RDF where a
nav
error of 6 or 10 or 15 degrees could sink your boat is stew ped, and if
you
happened to survive well you were lucky. Others weren't.

I was also wondering just how you used the paper sextant you claimed you
had in
a fog without the moisture making it come apart (nevermind how you used a
sextant in a fog at all).

if you believe in a God at all jeffies, you should fall down on your knees
and
pray thanksgiving for Him saving your sorry butt from your own dumbness.

an *this* was accurate to what??

2 degrees? 5 degrees? what the hell knows how many degrees?

dude, wandering around in unknown waters with a obstacles nearby using
an
RDF
was stew ped. That *you* might have survived means only that *you*
were
lucky,
NOT fricken smart.

Get over it, AND thank your lucky stars.

Jaxie has just declared that it was impossible to cruise New England
waters
before the invention of GPS! Maybe that explains why there are no boats
in
Yarmouth, Freeport, Harpswell, Cundy's, Robinhood, Booth Bay, Linekin,
Pemiquid,
Friendship, Muscongus, Tenant's, Rockland, Rockport, Camden, Belfast,
Searsport,
Castine, North Haven, Vinalhaven, Stonington, Brooklin, Blue Hill, Swans
Island,
Isle au Haut, Criehaven, Matinicus, Frenchboro, Bass Harbor, Southwest
Harbor,
Northeast Harbor, Cranberry Harbor ... And that's before you actually get
"Downeast!"

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 

Sure. "Galactic Proportions" is about 100,000 light years. It means that your
brain (a granite ledge) may be found somewhere within that. Or maybe not.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
okay, explain your understanding of the term. make mention as to why it is
important in terms of traveling around granite ledges.

Have you any idea what the term "ellipse of uncertainty" means?


Sure, yours is of galactic proportions!

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 

JAXAshby wrote:
no, over the nee, I am going to let you twist slowly in the wind. I know why
you are lost in a fog but you don't. I asked you explain how RDF equipment
works and you don't have a clew. you and jeffies are huffing and puffing in
the sandbox. if you were big enough to wear a jockstrap you wouldn't be
bragging about maybe someday owning one.

But I will give you a hint as to what to consider in trying to understand why
RDF is less accurate by far than you guys are claiming. Think, "dinner plate".

Jax, if you want some long winded technical discussion on radio waves,
loop antennas, etc., go read the book ....again.
The subject at hand here, is making use of the information, received,
knowing it's limitations, knowing the corrections which may need to be
applied, and translating that information into a useful navigation tool
as it was used in the past, to make approaches to land and/or avoid dangers.
Once again, you need to go back and re-read the section on possible
accuracy, then try and comprehend how a navigator might incorporate that
possible error into his route planning or navigation.
As I've said before and will continue to say, you are a product of GPS,
with no real sense of what is going on around you .... you may know what
the book says, but you don't understand how to use it.

otn

How many beer boxes needed to navigate an ocean?
 

JAXAshby wrote:
over the nee huffing in the sandbox tells us that is almost big enough for his
mommy to buy him a jockstrap because he starts junior high school in two and a
half years thusly:


BG So .... in other words, I "hit the nail on the head" and drove it
home with one whack.

otn