Doesn't Gilly have a patent on that?

Scotty

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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Why didn't they throw in a perpetual motion machine?


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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''renewable technologies such as photovoltaic (solar), wind, "

New radical high tech stuff, eh?

Scotty

"Roy G. Biv" wrote in message
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http://www.haveblue.com/xv1/index.htm

That's a "Perpetual Personality Machine"



"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Doesn't Gilly have a patent on that?

Scotty

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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Why didn't they throw in a perpetual motion machine?


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
''renewable technologies such as photovoltaic (solar), wind, "

New radical high tech stuff, eh?

Scotty

"Roy G. Biv" wrote in message
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http://www.haveblue.com/xv1/index.htm

Sorry Jax, but no solar panels are required. The bats are much, much
less than that, and it'll push the boat at hull speed with no noise and
virtually no vibration. No oil changes, no fuel stops. Switch out the
bats every three or four years.

Do you know anything about anything?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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jonny, the wretchedly stupid public just hasn't caught to buying $10,000
worth
of solar panels to hang on one's boat, along with $5,000 worth of lead
acid
batteries to drive a umpty-ump thousand dollar electric motor to push a
sailboat one sunny day out of ten sunny days at 1/2 the boat speed of a
$6,000
diesel.

At least the wretched public hasn't been doing so so far.

It's one of the reasons, although "abandoning" is probably a bit
strong. Another is the potential ecological savings (although there's
still a big issue with disposing of batteries), and there's the added
benefit of more electricity available for whatever... washing machines.
Who knows.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
and *this* the reason people have been abandoning their ic engines in
favor
this great new technology?

Actually, they do. The weight is distributed so it's not as big a deal
as a hunk of iron sitting in an inconvenient spot.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Looks like another attempt by that electric motor company to sell
some
motors.
They have been going to boat shows for years trying to get people to
toss
their
diesels. They pitch people on the fact their motor weighs less and
requires
less maintenence. What they don't tell people is how many batteries
they
need.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

ah, and the "batts" are charge how?

They're charged by the prop spinning while sailing.

This isn't the only one, but check this web site for more
info.

http://www.solomontechnologies.com/


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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ah, and the "batts" are charge how?

let's see if I got this straight.

you guys are saying that between solar panals and a generator belted to the
prop shaft you will have more than enough amps produced to drive a 20 hp
electric motor for up to several hours, and therefore the public is going to
stampede the vendor to pay upwards of $40K for a motor, panals, a few thousand
pounds of batteries all to avoid paying $8k for a diesel engine, plus fuel.

boy, you guys sure do have dreams, don't you.

"Jonathan Ganz"
scribbled thusly:

They're charged by the prop spinning while sailing.

This isn't the only one, but check this web site for more
info.

http://www.solomontechnologies.com/


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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ah, and the "batts" are charge how?






Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Jaxass, looks like you can't read. I said, no solar panels. Not sure
where you got $40K either. You're proving yourself over and
over to be an idiot.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
let's see if I got this straight.

you guys are saying that between solar panals and a generator belted to
the
prop shaft you will have more than enough amps produced to drive a 20 hp
electric motor for up to several hours, and therefore the public is going
to
stampede the vendor to pay upwards of $40K for a motor, panals, a few
thousand
pounds of batteries all to avoid paying $8k for a diesel engine, plus
fuel.

boy, you guys sure do have dreams, don't you.

"Jonathan Ganz"
scribbled thusly:

They're charged by the prop spinning while sailing.

This isn't the only one, but check this web site for more
info.

http://www.solomontechnologies.com/


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, and the "batts" are charge how?






Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

ah, NO solar panels. I see. Just an alternator belted to the spinning prop
shaft puttin out maybe 6 amps.

So, let's add it up. 6 amps at 12 volts for 24 hours = 1,728 watts, which =
2.3 hp-hours.

But you need 20 hp for up to 20 hours, or 400 hp-hours, or about 300,000 watts,
which will take you approximately 173.611111 days sailing to produce.

You would also need battery capacity of 50,000 amps.

This is to motor not even 1 day.

I dunno, joony. you think it is doable?

Jaxass, looks like you can't read. I said, no solar panels. Not sure
where you got $40K either. You're proving yourself over and
over to be an idiot.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
let's see if I got this straight.

you guys are saying that between solar panals and a generator belted to
the
prop shaft you will have more than enough amps produced to drive a 20 hp
electric motor for up to several hours, and therefore the public is going
to
stampede the vendor to pay upwards of $40K for a motor, panals, a few
thousand
pounds of batteries all to avoid paying $8k for a diesel engine, plus
fuel.

boy, you guys sure do have dreams, don't you.

"Jonathan Ganz"
scribbled thusly:

They're charged by the prop spinning while sailing.

This isn't the only one, but check this web site for more
info.

http://www.solomontechnologies.com/


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah, and the "batts" are charge how?






Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

On 03 Mar 2004 22:37:16 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

jonny, the wretchedly stupid public just hasn't caught to buying $10,000 worth
of solar panels to hang on one's boat, along with $5,000 worth of lead acid
batteries to drive a umpty-ump thousand dollar electric motor to push a
sailboat one sunny day out of ten sunny days at 1/2 the boat speed of a $6,000
diesel.

At least the wretched public hasn't been doing so so far.

Did you even visit the website? They are discussing hydrogen fuel
cell technology, not lead acid batteries driving an electric motor. I
believe you have missed the point they are trying to demonstrate.

It's one of the reasons, although "abandoning" is probably a bit
strong. Another is the potential ecological savings (although there's
still a big issue with disposing of batteries), and there's the added
benefit of more electricity available for whatever... washing machines.
Who knows.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
and *this* the reason people have been abandoning their ic engines in
favor
this great new technology?

Actually, they do. The weight is distributed so it's not as big a deal
as a hunk of iron sitting in an inconvenient spot.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Looks like another attempt by that electric motor company to sell some
motors.
They have been going to boat shows for years trying to get people to
toss
their
diesels. They pitch people on the fact their motor weighs less and
requires
less maintenence. What they don't tell people is how many batteries
they
need.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

and the storage batteries to hold the amps until you can break down water is
where? And how are they recharged?

It *IS* perpetual motion to suggest that breaking down water into hydrogen and
then "burning" the hydrogen to produce power AND amps to break down th hydrogen

If you want 400 hp-hours of energy output, you have to have at least 400
hp-hours energy input.

simple fact of physics: TANSTAAFL

(JAXAshby) wrote:

jonny, the wretchedly stupid public just hasn't caught to buying $10,000
worth
of solar panels to hang on one's boat, along with $5,000 worth of lead acid
batteries to drive a umpty-ump thousand dollar electric motor to push a
sailboat one sunny day out of ten sunny days at 1/2 the boat speed of a
$6,000
diesel.

At least the wretched public hasn't been doing so so far.

Did you even visit the website? They are discussing hydrogen fuel
cell technology, not lead acid batteries driving an electric motor. I
believe you have missed the point they are trying to demonstrate.

It's one of the reasons, although "abandoning" is probably a bit
strong. Another is the potential ecological savings (although there's
still a big issue with disposing of batteries), and there's the added
benefit of more electricity available for whatever... washing machines.
Who knows.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
and *this* the reason people have been abandoning their ic engines in
favor
this great new technology?

Actually, they do. The weight is distributed so it's not as big a deal
as a hunk of iron sitting in an inconvenient spot.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Looks like another attempt by that electric motor company to sell some
motors.
They have been going to boat shows for years trying to get people to
toss
their
diesels. They pitch people on the fact their motor weighs less and
requires
less maintenence. What they don't tell people is how many batteries
they
need.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"