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![]() Jonathan Ganz wrote: You're full of it. The Valient has a host of great sailing and construction pluses. The Mac has NONE of these. The Mac is garbage, which isn't fit to sink in the wake of a Valient, even though it likely would at the very first opportunity. Actually, you again have got it all wrong, Johnathan. Wrong again! Contrary to your note, I'm actually a great admirer of the Valiant, having sailed one for a week along the Texas coast. It's probably the best handling and best performing boat of its size that I have sailed. - We were routinely making over 9 knots in around 15-knot winds, with the main, staysail, and jib deployed. The boat had all lines led aft including multiple reefing lines led to the cockpit so that you could easily set the main at a particular desired reefing point from the cockpit. The boat had a canoe stern which enhanced its speed and was a safety factor in the event of large following seas. So, I'm totally sold on the Valiant. Regarding the comparison with the Mac 26M, however, as has been overwhelmingly demonstrated to anyone willing to read the notes with an open mind (this doesn't include you, of course), the Mac has a number of advantages and capabilities that the Valiant doesn't have and never will. For most sailors who work for a living, the Mac addresses the issue of time, and the limited amount each of us has, far more intelligently than the Valiant. Get a grip on yourself Johnny. - You are obviously loosing it, and you seem to be getting worse with each passing day. Jim |