Joe,

I'm not interested in barnacles... however, there's a lot of other
things that grow, and so far, I have to say I'm impressed with
the habanera sause I used in the paint. When I painted my
boat, I used the absolute cheapest paint I could get. The yard
forman said it would probably last maybe on season. It's at
two right now with minimal growth. The only hassle with it
was that it was hard to mix it with the paint, thus I'm willing
to experiment with chili sause.

Why do you think something has to be sold in a marine store
to be useful on a boat?

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Hmmm... I will take that into consideration upon the next haulout.

Your wasting your time!

Mr Cooper made a wood dink. He did the bottom with powered red chili
pepper mixed in paint for the bottom and kept the boat in the water
here in the marina.

Within 6 month in the water his hull was covered with barrinacles.

He pulled his dink used interlux bottom paint and it stayed unfouled
for 3 + years.

Answer this: What marine store carries chile pepper?

Joe
MSV RedCloud


Oz wrote in message ...
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 19:15:47 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
scribbled thusly:

Why is that?

Doesn't upset the paint mix other than to thicken it a bit.
Much more concentrated too.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Joe,

I'm not interested in barnacles... however, there's a lot of other
things that grow, and so far, I have to say I'm impressed with
the habanera sause I used in the paint. When I painted my
boat, I used the absolute cheapest paint I could get. The yard
forman said it would probably last maybe on season. It's at
two right now with minimal growth. The only hassle with it
was that it was hard to mix it with the paint, thus I'm willing
to experiment with chili sause.

Why do you think something has to be sold in a marine store
to be useful on a boat?

Because if it were useful and a good product at a cheaper cost someone
would be making lots of money doing it. I would. Interlux would.

If it was effective why would anyone pay close to 200 a gallon for
bottom paint? Dont you think the paint mfg's have not tried this. And
Katy sails said the Navy tried it and it was a failure. I bet your
boat would be in the same condition it is in, if you used just plain
paint with no chilies!

Save your hot sauce for tacos! Or next time paint a small square
without chilie pepper and compare the difference in growth over time.

Joe
MSV RedCloud



Joe
MSV RedCloud




"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Hmmm... I will take that into consideration upon the next haulout.

Your wasting your time!

Mr Cooper made a wood dink. He did the bottom with powered red chili
pepper mixed in paint for the bottom and kept the boat in the water
here in the marina.

Within 6 month in the water his hull was covered with barrinacles.

He pulled his dink used interlux bottom paint and it stayed unfouled
for 3 + years.

Answer this: What marine store carries chile pepper?

Joe
MSV RedCloud


Oz wrote in message ...
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 19:15:47 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
scribbled thusly:

Why is that?

Doesn't upset the paint mix other than to thicken it a bit.
Much more concentrated too.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Add in some sauerkraut juice next time.

SV


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Joe,

I'm not interested in barnacles... however, there's a lot of other
things that grow, and so far, I have to say I'm impressed with
the habanera sause I used in the paint. When I painted my
boat, I used the absolute cheapest paint I could get. The yard
forman said it would probably last maybe on season. It's at
two right now with minimal growth. The only hassle with it
was that it was hard to mix it with the paint, thus I'm willing
to experiment with chili sause.

Why do you think something has to be sold in a marine store
to be useful on a boat?

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Hmmm... I will take that into consideration upon the next haulout.

Your wasting your time!

Mr Cooper made a wood dink. He did the bottom with powered red chili
pepper mixed in paint for the bottom and kept the boat in the water
here in the marina.

Within 6 month in the water his hull was covered with barrinacles.

He pulled his dink used interlux bottom paint and it stayed unfouled
for 3 + years.

Answer this: What marine store carries chile pepper?

Joe
MSV RedCloud


Oz wrote in message
...
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 19:15:47 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
scribbled thusly:

Why is that?

Doesn't upset the paint mix other than to thicken it a bit.
Much more concentrated too.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Joe,

I think you're making a leap in logic that isn't justified.
There are lots of products that have more than one use,
where some of the other uses are not obvious but still
valuable.

Also, I didn't pay $200 for a gallon of bottom paint...
more like 1/2 that on sale.

It's also possible that the navy did try it and that it was
classified as a failure, but it still works to some degree...
perhaps not to their specs, but without the hard facts,
it's not easy to tell.

As to your suggestion about trying it by leaving it off
a patch, I plan to do that at next haul out.

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Joe,

I'm not interested in barnacles... however, there's a lot of other
things that grow, and so far, I have to say I'm impressed with
the habanera sause I used in the paint. When I painted my
boat, I used the absolute cheapest paint I could get. The yard
forman said it would probably last maybe on season. It's at
two right now with minimal growth. The only hassle with it
was that it was hard to mix it with the paint, thus I'm willing
to experiment with chili sause.

Why do you think something has to be sold in a marine store
to be useful on a boat?

Because if it were useful and a good product at a cheaper cost someone
would be making lots of money doing it. I would. Interlux would.

If it was effective why would anyone pay close to 200 a gallon for
bottom paint? Dont you think the paint mfg's have not tried this. And
Katy sails said the Navy tried it and it was a failure. I bet your
boat would be in the same condition it is in, if you used just plain
paint with no chilies!

Save your hot sauce for tacos! Or next time paint a small square
without chilie pepper and compare the difference in growth over time.

Joe
MSV RedCloud



Joe
MSV RedCloud




"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Hmmm... I will take that into consideration upon the next haulout.

Your wasting your time!

Mr Cooper made a wood dink. He did the bottom with powered red chili
pepper mixed in paint for the bottom and kept the boat in the water
here in the marina.

Within 6 month in the water his hull was covered with barrinacles.

He pulled his dink used interlux bottom paint and it stayed unfouled
for 3 + years.

Answer this: What marine store carries chile pepper?

Joe
MSV RedCloud


Oz wrote in message
...
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 19:15:47 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
scribbled thusly:

Why is that?

Doesn't upset the paint mix other than to thicken it a bit.
Much more concentrated too.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Watch it Scotty, Boobie and Bill the bongo twins will get excited and try to
add the
bratwurst.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Add in some sauerkraut juice next time.

SV


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Joe,

I'm not interested in barnacles... however, there's a lot of other
things that grow, and so far, I have to say I'm impressed with
the habanera sause I used in the paint. When I painted my
boat, I used the absolute cheapest paint I could get. The yard
forman said it would probably last maybe on season. It's at
two right now with minimal growth. The only hassle with it
was that it was hard to mix it with the paint, thus I'm willing
to experiment with chili sause.

Why do you think something has to be sold in a marine store
to be useful on a boat?

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Hmmm... I will take that into consideration upon the next haulout.

Your wasting your time!

Mr Cooper made a wood dink. He did the bottom with powered red chili
pepper mixed in paint for the bottom and kept the boat in the water
here in the marina.

Within 6 month in the water his hull was covered with barrinacles.

He pulled his dink used interlux bottom paint and it stayed unfouled
for 3 + years.

Answer this: What marine store carries chile pepper?

Joe
MSV RedCloud


Oz wrote in message
...
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 19:15:47 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
scribbled thusly:

Why is that?

Doesn't upset the paint mix other than to thicken it a bit.
Much more concentrated too.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

"Joe" wrote in And
Katy sails said the Navy tried it and it was a failure. I bet your
boat would be in the same condition it is in, if you used just plain
paint with no chilies!

The reason the Navy doesn't use it or for that matter copper paints is they
still use the 'hands down' best there ever was, Lead based paints. The Navy
as a gov't agency, is totally, completely exempt from the envirionmental
laws banning lead based paint. On a comparison just about everything fails
compared to lead paint.

Secondly, the Navy, like all military services, tends to pick and choose
that which they are told to pick and choose. One easy way is to write the
test criteria in such a way as nothing else but the preferred method will
pass. For example, they may demand that the winning product be produced in
certain quantities and those quantities must be locally grown, mined, or
produced. By adjusting the 'norms' anything not deemed suitable is driven
out of the competititon.

The criteria that is germane to the conversation is this: Does the addition
of 'capsicum' in whatever form or strength improve in any measureable form
the worth of the anti fouling paint in 'unadulterated form.' Is it worth
the cost of the additive?

My own experience says definitely yes in warmer waters. The need tends to
diminish in colder waters.

I use a large can of red pepper (capsicum) per gallon of paint. This, on
average, extends the ability of the original anti foul by six months to one
year depending on the water temperature.

The little critters dislike pepper sprary as much as we do!

Michael

I'll give it the chili test in a few months and see what happens in a couple
of years. Don't you all wait up now.

"Michael" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in And
Katy sails said the Navy tried it and it was a failure. I bet your
boat would be in the same condition it is in, if you used just plain
paint with no chilies!

The reason the Navy doesn't use it or for that matter copper paints is
they
still use the 'hands down' best there ever was, Lead based paints. The
Navy
as a gov't agency, is totally, completely exempt from the envirionmental
laws banning lead based paint. On a comparison just about everything
fails
compared to lead paint.

Secondly, the Navy, like all military services, tends to pick and choose
that which they are told to pick and choose. One easy way is to write the
test criteria in such a way as nothing else but the preferred method will
pass. For example, they may demand that the winning product be produced
in
certain quantities and those quantities must be locally grown, mined, or
produced. By adjusting the 'norms' anything not deemed suitable is driven
out of the competititon.

The criteria that is germane to the conversation is this: Does the
addition
of 'capsicum' in whatever form or strength improve in any measureable
form
the worth of the anti fouling paint in 'unadulterated form.' Is it worth
the cost of the additive?

My own experience says definitely yes in warmer waters. The need tends to
diminish in colder waters.

I use a large can of red pepper (capsicum) per gallon of paint. This, on
average, extends the ability of the original anti foul by six months to
one
year depending on the water temperature.

The little critters dislike pepper sprary as much as we do!

Michael