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Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will
run and/or charge off your boat batteries? Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ |
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Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will
run and/or charge off your boat batteries? Any drill will charge off a low cost inverter. Buy a good one, such as a Makita. I carry a Makita C2 and a low cost B&D combi drive. Is there no end to your idiocy and cheapness? With a boat like yours don't skimp on tools! RB |
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Good guess, since I'm asking.
wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:00:17 -0500, "Scott Vernon" wrote: Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will run and/or charge off your boat batteries? All of them can if you know what to do. Oops! I guess that eliminates you. BB Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ |
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I have an inverter. I'd like a drill that runs direct off the batts.
Why? There are far better units available that run off their own packs. RB |
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I have an inverter. I'd like a drill that runs direct off the batts.
SV "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Good guess, since I'm asking. wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:00:17 -0500, "Scott Vernon" wrote: Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will run and/or charge off your boat batteries? All of them can if you know what to do. Oops! I guess that eliminates you. BB Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ |
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Any of them can if you know what to do.
C'mon, Bill. There's no way Scotty will buy a multi power adapter and wire it to a drill. The man chose a mac and then a Siedleman. Is it any wonder that he's about to buy a "seafit" drill? RB |
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He asked about a 12 volt drill and 12 volt rechargable batteries. You
can easily modify the AC charger that comes with it so it can be used with a cigarette lighter plug. No adapters needed. Good point, but he shouldn't bother with the crummy Seafit drill. Even on a boat, a good drill is worthwhile. My Makita has taken a beating, still works great. The head of the B&D rusted when I forgot to hit it with oil, but I saved it. At the slip I tend to use an ancient Skil drill, built like a tank. RB |
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Bobsprit wrote:
Any of them can if you know what to do. C'mon, Bill. There's no way Scotty will buy a multi power adapter and wire it to a drill. The man chose a mac and then a Siedleman. Is it any wonder that he's about to buy a "seafit" drill? RB Hey Boobys, could you be so kind as to supply us with a make and model number for that "multi power adapter", or is only available in the Matrix? Cheers Marty |
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Hey Boobys, could you be so kind as to supply us with a make
and model number for that "multi power adapter" Sure, Marty. Not surprised that you're ignorance extends to more levels.. Radio shack Catalog #: 273-1827 made for computers, does 12-27 volts and can be addapted to a LOT of gear with a few adjustments. Also: Catalog #: 273-1811, but just 300 MA. RB |
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Scott, don't waste your time with no name drills. The batteries suck. Buy a
Robi. Best value. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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Scott, don't waste your time with no name drills. The batteries suck. Buy a
Robi. No name, but by a Robi...which is essentially a toy drill? Even a low end B&D lasts longer! Buy a makita or even a MW...a real drill. RB |
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When I was working in the trades everyone preferred Makita, though that's
probably changed. Standard these days is 18 volt, though I don't see why you would need to carry one ON the boat. I can't think of any emergencies that might require the use of a cordless drill. I looked at the description of this particular drill, nothing stood out, not water resistant, doesn't even come with a waterproof carrying case. Spend your money on a good 18v, something you can leave at home, and take down to the boat on the rare occasion that you actually need to drill some holes. John Cairns "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... Scott, don't waste your time with no name drills. The batteries suck. Buy a Robi. Best value. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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I have a 12V drill that needs 14.3V to charge, I suppose a 9.8V drill
vill charge on 12V. I think that you can read the charge voltage on the charge-box that comes with the drill. I think any 12V drill will run on the boatbattery, but if you want to charge maybe a 9V would be better. The voltage on a boat system generally varies from 14.? to 11.5V, depending on whether you are charging with a efficient charger or you are using a half charged battery. A cheap measuring box will tell you what your voltages are when you run your engine, charge with shorepower or just take power from the battery. Peter S/Y Anicula "Scott Vernon" skrev i en meddelelse ... Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will run and/or charge off your boat batteries? Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ |
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No you nitwit. No.
"Horvath" wrote in message ... On 23 Jan 2004 18:06:11 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote this crap: Scott, don't waste your time with no name drills. The batteries suck. Buy a Robi. Best value. A "robi"? like R2D2? He's pretty handy at repair. And you can plug him into your boat's central computer when you want hyper speed. This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe |
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If you stay at anchor (as I do most of the time) you might find it
inconvenient to have to run the engine for the time required to charge the drillbattery. So if you prefer to run the drill on the drill batteries, a 9.8V drill that will charge directly from the boat battery might be more practical. I prefer to run the drill directly form the boatbattery with a wire. If you are sitting at anchor and has the time, you can carve a dummy-battery with wire so you can switch between boatbattery and drillbattery. You could even ad some metal to the dummy to make the balance of the drill right. Peter skrev i en meddelelse ... On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 01:00:40 +0100, "Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote: I have a 12V drill that needs 14.3V to charge, I suppose a 9.8V drill vill charge on 12V. I think that you can read the charge voltage on the charge-box that comes with the drill. I think any 12V drill will run on the boatbattery, but if you want to charge maybe a 9V would be better. The same charging system that charges the boat's 12 volt batteries will have no problem charging the 12 volt batteries for the drill. BB The voltage on a boat system generally varies from 14.? to 11.5V, depending on whether you are charging with a efficient charger or you are using a half charged battery. A cheap measuring box will tell you what your voltages are when you run your engine, charge with shorepower or just take power from the battery. Peter S/Y Anicula "Scott Vernon" skrev i en meddelelse ... Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will run and/or charge off your boat batteries? Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ |
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I'm not interested in the Seafit, just gave that as an example of a 12v
drill. I buy most tools at Sears. I'm not out to impress people, just to get the job done. SV "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... Scott, don't waste your time with no name drills. The batteries suck. Buy a Robi. Best value. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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well it should be obvious I don't know what to do or I wouldn't have asked.
wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:16:37 -0500, "Scott Vernon" wrote: I have an inverter. I'd like a drill that runs direct off the batts. Any of them can if you know what to do. You don't need an inverter for 12 volt rechargables. BB SV "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Good guess, since I'm asking. wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:00:17 -0500, "Scott Vernon" wrote: Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will run and/or charge off your boat batteries? All of them can if you know what to do. Oops! I guess that eliminates you. BB Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ |
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I have a tab at White Castle.
SV wrote I think a factory reconditioned Seafit is probably more in line with Scotty's financial situation. The bill for cheesburgers really adds up when you buy 'em by the bagful. BB |
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I buy most tools at Sears. I'm not out to impress people, just to get
the job done. Scotty, Sears sells some crap too. Why do you want a drill that works from your batteries, rather than a standard charger model? The Makita classic II (for example) comes with two batteries. Both would give you plenty of usable drill time and you small inverter could charge one while you use the other. You're not likely to run out of power for the drill. RB |
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I have a tab at White Castle.
SV You should OWN white castle by now. He has to pay off the 1976 Dodge Dart 1st. RB |
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No name, but by a Robi...which is essentially a toy drill?
Even a low end B&D lasts longer! Buy a makita or even a MW...a real drill. Another dumb ass response from the guy who knows nothing about everything. Robi's are used by many professionals. I called it a value because they are much cheaper than Makitas with a fine build quality and the batteries hold a charge unlike many other less expensive brands. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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When I was working in the trades everyone preferred Makita, though that's
probably changed. Standard these days is 18 volt, . I bought a 14.5 over an 18 because I felt the 14.5 would get into tighter spaces on a boat. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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I'm not interested in the Seafit, just gave that as an example of a 12v
drill. I buy most tools at Sears. I agree on the Craftsman stuff except for battery drills. The Sears batteries suck. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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Another dumb ass response from the guy who knows nothing about everything.
Robi's are used by many professionals. Loco, Ryobi doesn't make a professional cordless drill. They are all cheap consumer models for the most part. Nor have I ever seen a "pro" pull a Ryobi anything out. Dewalt, Makita, Porter Cable and Some B&D are good products actually used by pros. Makita is among the top units around for many years. I also use Porta Cable sanders. Bosch jigs are the best due to the patents. Ryobi makes 50 & 60 dollar cheapie's or combi kits. Scotty already owns enough crap, so why egg him on to get more? Ryobi available at National Liquidaters! RB |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message Loco, Ryobi doesn't make a professional cordless drill. They are all cheap consumer models for the most part. According to an acquaintance who services hand power tools, this is true. They are all consumer-level products. Nor have I ever seen a "pro" pull a Ryobi anything out. The group that just installed my new soffits and fascia all used Ryobis. I asked the company owner about them. His reponse was that he had used DeWalt (made by Black and Decker, for the most part) and Porter Cable driver/drills, and the workers kept dropping them and destroying them. So he switched to Ryobis to cut his losses. And he said they've actually worked just as well. No problems of any nature that he hadn't already incurred with the more expensive drills. Of course his workers drop them, too, so how long he uses them before replacing 'em is anyone's guess. Dewalt, Makita, Porter Cable and Some B&D are good products I'm no fan of B&D, but I think you get what you pay for. If your duty cycle is consumer, not professional, a B&D drill or whatever may last for decades. If you use 'em everyday, all day, they won't hold up. Max |
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I'll agree with that Max..... tools are often listed as "dispensable" when
crews are involved. Private craftsmen will use the more expensive tools. For 99% of the amateur back-yard carpenters... a DeWalt or a Porter Cable is not only overkill but many tools have adjustments and features that will never be used by someone building a doghouse or bird feeder. Bob strikes me as the type of person to have a Hilti gun and no clue as to how to use it.... for the sole purpose to claim he has professional grade tools. Next he'll claim he only buys Milwaukee Tools! BTW: DeWalt has bought B&D. I go to their store and they have it divided up..... the orange B&Ds are on the right. The yellow DeWalts are on the left. I buy the Dewalt refurbished tools at half the price of a new model and buy all the bits and blades from the B&D side since they are interchangeable. I saw two router bit kits... both identical in size, shape and type of bits... one in a yellow case [DeWalt] was $80 and the one in the orange case [B&D] was $50. I asked the clerk what the difference was between the two.... he said the colour of the case and the price. Bob would have bought the yellow case.... I bought the orange one. ;-D CM "Maxprop" wrote in message | The group that just installed my new soffits and fascia all used Ryobis. I | asked the company owner about them. His reponse was that he had used DeWalt | (made by Black and Decker, for the most part) and Porter Cable | driver/drills, and the workers kept dropping them and destroying them. So | he switched to Ryobis to cut his losses. And he said they've actually | worked just as well. No problems of any nature that he hadn't already | incurred with the more expensive drills. Of course his workers drop them, | too, so how long he uses them before replacing 'em is anyone's guess. | | Dewalt, Makita, Porter Cable and Some B&D are good products | | I'm no fan of B&D, but I think you get what you pay for. If your duty cycle | is consumer, not professional, a B&D drill or whatever may last for decades. | If you use 'em everyday, all day, they won't hold up. | | Max | | | |
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Bob strikes me as the type of person to have a Hilti gun and no clue as to
how to use it.... for the sole purpose to claim he has professional grade tools. Next he'll claim he only buys Milwaukee Tools! Sorry, Mooron, I buy tools that last. I've had a B&D professional grinder for 11 years and used it on boat tasks for 9 years. My Porta Cable sander is not only durable, it also does a better job than others I've used. The Makita is a film set standard for the setbuilders union and costs under 150.00. At such a small price why cheap out with a Ryobi? There's just no reason to not have the better tool when the cost is so small. As usual, you're not only wrong, but shown to be a cooked fish in the process! Enjoy your Walgreen Drill!!! Bwahahahahahaha! RB |
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I asked the clerk what the difference was between
the two.... he said the colour of the case and the price. Bob would have bought the yellow case.... I bought the orange one. ;-D I'm afraid the clerk is wrong. Dewalt still uses different motors from B&D and are rated for a longer lifespan. That said, I probably use tools far more often than you. Some people still work on their boats for fun, rather than paying for services. You probably don't even polish your own hull! RB |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message | Sorry, Mooron, I buy tools that last. I've had a B&D professional grinder for | 11 years and used it on boat tasks for 9 years. My Porta Cable sander is not | only durable, it also does a better job than others I've used. An eleven year old Black & Decker????? Bwahahahahahahahahhaaa Real "pro" stuff there Bob! The Makita is a | film set standard for the setbuilders union and costs under 150.00. At such a | small price why cheap out with a Ryobi? There's just no reason to not have the | better tool when the cost is so small. So now you're a set designer as well? My sister in law is a set designer... she doesn't even own a power tool and has never used a Makita until she borrowed my brother's drill. Makita was the tool of choice years ago... there are better ones out there. | As usual, you're not only wrong, but shown to be a cooked fish in the process! | Enjoy your Walgreen Drill!!! Say What??? I thought I made it clear I have DeWalt & Porter Cable tools. | | Bwahahahahahaha! Indeed! CM |
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Since when do router bits have motors?
Scotty "Bobsprit" wrote I'm afraid the clerk is wrong. Dewalt still uses different motors from B&D and are rated for a longer lifespan. |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message | I'm afraid the clerk is wrong. Yeah Bob... SURE! The friggin clerk is wrong. I mean why would he want me to buy the cheapest right? Dewalt still uses different motors from B&D and | are rated for a longer lifespan. Er-r-r-r.... I said I was buying bits Bob! I also said I bought DeWalt tools over B&D. Try reading for comprehension please... Thanx Buddy! ....and you're wrong about the motors. That said, I probably use tools far more often | than you. Yeah... Sure you do Bob! I bet you walk around the your NYC apartment with your cordless drill in a holster just waiting to drill something or tighten a screw. God knows the 30lb Hilti Rock drills I was using to place permanent survey pins last week don't count as real tools eh? I guess the placement of new doors and windows I did last year in November wouldn't qualify either. Forbid I would use tools like my metal lathe and perish the thought I would spend time at my forge. I guess the tool shop and all my belt sanders, bandsaws, scroll saws, compound miter saws, drill press, table saws etc are just for show .... right? Bwahahahahahahahaaa Man you are so way out of your league talking to any man about tools and talking to any sailor about sailing. Some people still work on their boats for fun, rather than paying for | services. You probably don't even polish your own hull! Right Bob... like I'm the one with the boat in a marina that doesn't allow owners to work on their boats? I'm the guy with more money than ability??? ..... NOT! Bob.... I even replaced my own auxiliary on Overproof. I do all... and I mean all of my own work on my boat. I can't afford substandard jobs done by pros who seem more interested in profit than quality. The girls polish my hull.... as you have claimed the Alien girls polish your hull.... remember Bob? Do try and keep your fabrications in order please. ;-D Thanx Buddy! CM |
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A pro grinder, eh? WTF is that? I've been in a lot of big steel fab ,
machine shops & weld shops and can't recall ever seeing a B&D tool. You lose! SV "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Bob strikes me as the type of person to have a Hilti gun and no clue as to how to use it.... for the sole purpose to claim he has professional grade tools. Next he'll claim he only buys Milwaukee Tools! Sorry, Mooron, I buy tools that last. I've had a B&D professional grinder for 11 years and used it on boat tasks for 9 years. My Porta Cable sander is not only durable, it also does a better job than others I've used. The Makita is a film set standard for the setbuilders union and costs under 150.00. At such a small price why cheap out with a Ryobi? There's just no reason to not have the better tool when the cost is so small. As usual, you're not only wrong, but shown to be a cooked fish in the process! Enjoy your Walgreen Drill!!! Bwahahahahahaha! RB |
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It's also convenient as there's 2 Sears tool stores within 10 miles of us.
SV "SAIL LOCO" wrote in message ... I'm not interested in the Seafit, just gave that as an example of a 12v drill. I buy most tools at Sears. I agree on the Craftsman stuff except for battery drills. The Sears batteries suck. S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
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Professionals buy and use tools that get the job
done quickest. Professionals buy Ryobi for the reason stated earlier--Dewalt cost more without any gain in quality. Hang out at Home Depot and see who buys these tools--mostly professionals. Higher voltage 18 V or 24 V tools work better than 12 Volt tools. The advantage of 12 volts tools is you can charge them without a charger cradle directly off deep cycle batteries by hooking them up in parallel. Higher voltage offers better battery life, but requires an inverter and charger with an associated loss in charging efficiency. I have two 18 V Ryobi drills, a saw, a sawsall, a vacuum, and a worklight, and four batteries. The light weight of these tools versus the time needed to configure power cords makes tool choice. If the job can be done with battery power that's a plus. Many job sites don't have power, or setting up extension cords is a job in itself. A boat at sea is a good example where such tools have great utility. Ryobi battery powered tools can handle moderate professional applications and often they are better suited to professional work than Skillsaw's and AC powered Milwakee sawalls. My Ryobi tools are so good I tossed out my old AC powered drills, sold two homeowner grade saws, sold all my battery powered Makita tools, and kept only my biggest AC powered right angle super heavy duty drill, my Sawsall, and two Skillsaws. For the cost of two batteries, you can buy those plus an extra drill. I find four batteries and two chargers keep me working without pause. In two and half years these drills have taken all the abuse I can give them. My Ryboi skillsaw cuts lots of 2x4's on a single battery although it is not tough enough for larger material even with battery changes. Along with a Paslode nailgun it's perfect for small framing jobs and avoids long set up times. I used one exclusively for finish framing in a third floor attic remodel. I like it so much I'm thinking about buying a Ryobi chop saw. Ryobi skillsaws work great cutting cedar shingles on a roof where a cord is in the way. Also, a full size sawsall won't fit in small spaces like cutting or widening plumbing and wiring holes between studs. They are also cheap and affordable. Anyone says these tool are not professional grade has his head up his ass. Bart Senior (Bobsprit) wrote Another dumb ass response from the guy who knows nothing about everything. Robi's are used by many professionals. Loco, Ryobi doesn't make a professional cordless drill. They are all cheap consumer models for the most part. Nor have I ever seen a "pro" pull a Ryobi anything out. Dewalt, Makita, Porter Cable and Some B&D are good products actually used by pros. Makita is among the top units around for many years. I also use Porta Cable sanders. Bosch jigs are the best due to the patents. Ryobi makes 50 & 60 dollar cheapie's or combi kits. Scotty already owns enough crap, so why egg him on to get more? Ryobi available at National Liquidaters! RB |
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote
Bob strikes me as the type of person to have a Hilti gun and no clue as to how to use it.... for the sole purpose to claim he has professional grade tools. Exactly! BTW I have 3 Duo-Fast nail guns, oops, should have wrote "PROFESSIONAL'' nail guns. I've used the Hiltis up at the shop, they're fun. SV |
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I believe they're illegal in New Yawk City. paranoia..........
"Capt. Mooron" wrote Bob strikes me as the type of person to have a Hilti gun |
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There you have it.
Anyone says these tool are not professional grade has his head up his ass. Bart Senior |
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uh.....have I mentioned that I built my 50' x 30' barn all by myself?
SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote Yeah... Sure you do Bob! I bet you walk around the your NYC apartment with your cordless drill in a holster just waiting to drill something or tighten a screw. God knows the 30lb Hilti Rock drills I was using to place permanent survey pins last week don't count as real tools eh? I guess the placement of new doors and windows I did last year in November wouldn't qualify either. Forbid I would use tools like my metal lathe and perish the thought I would spend time at my forge. I guess the tool shop and all my belt sanders, bandsaws, scroll saws, compound miter saws, drill press, table saws etc are just for show .... right? Bwahahahahahahahaaa Man you are so way out of your league talking to any man about tools and talking to any sailor about sailing. Some people still work on their boats for fun, rather than paying for | services. You probably don't even polish your own hull! Right Bob... like I'm the one with the boat in a marina that doesn't allow owners to work on their boats? I'm the guy with more money than ability??? .... NOT! Bob.... I even replaced my own auxiliary on Overproof. I do all... and I mean all of my own work on my boat. I can't afford substandard jobs done by pros who seem more interested in profit than quality. The girls polish my hull.... as you have claimed the Alien girls polish your hull.... remember Bob? Do try and keep your fabrications in order please. ;-D Thanx Buddy! CM |
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Why yes you have.... did Bob ever come down to help you out with his 11 year
old "Professional" B&D Grinder? Bwahahahahahahahaaa!! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... | uh.....have I mentioned that I built my 50' x 30' barn all by myself? | | SV | | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote | | Yeah... Sure you do Bob! I bet you walk around the your NYC apartment with | your cordless drill in a holster just waiting to drill something or | tighten | a screw. God knows the 30lb Hilti Rock drills I was using to place | permanent | survey pins last week don't count as real tools eh? I guess the placement | of new doors and windows I did last year in November wouldn't qualify | either. Forbid I would use tools like my metal lathe and perish the | thought | I would spend time at my forge. I guess the tool shop and all my belt | sanders, bandsaws, scroll saws, compound miter saws, drill press, table | saws | etc are just for show .... right? Bwahahahahahahahaaa | | Man you are so way out of your league talking to any man about tools and | talking to any sailor about sailing. | | Some people still work on their boats for fun, rather than paying for | | services. You probably don't even polish your own hull! | | Right Bob... like I'm the one with the boat in a marina that doesn't | allow | owners to work on their boats? I'm the guy with more money than ability??? | .... NOT! | | Bob.... I even replaced my own auxiliary on Overproof. I do all... and I | mean all of my own work on my boat. I can't afford substandard jobs done | by | pros who seem more interested in profit than quality. | | The girls polish my hull.... as you have claimed the Alien girls polish | your | hull.... remember Bob? Do try and keep your fabrications in order please. | ;-D | | Thanx Buddy! | | CM | | | |
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