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Agreed. We use heaps of DeWalt battery drills on ships, Antarctic bases
and the like. They work, keep working and can handle a lot of abuse without dying on you - good feature when the nearest replacement is thousands of km away. Second choice for me is Makita but I just bought an 18V Makita drill for myself as it was $100 cheaper than the DeWalt and was capable of doing all I wanted it to do. I've been driving roofing screws with it. Cheap tools have their place tho. I just bought a cheap Chinese 7.5" circular saw to use with a metal cutting blade rather than get the metal dust into an expensive saw. Damned thing works well and cost little more than the replacement switch for a Hitachi which I broke by.... dropping it off the roof! Damn. Mind you we run on 240V power so our tools can generate decent torque without massive cable thickness. Thing about battery drills is the torque they can develop and the amp-hours of the battery. For cheap ones, these are the 2 areas where they cut back and it only matters if you need that extra torque that a better motor can develop in the same weight factor. Lots of other features in better drills but unless you're using them a real lot, the extra dollars mightn't be worth it. Peter Wiley In article , The Carrolls wrote: Geeze, what a bunch of crap, get the most powerful De Walt you can justify paying for and a pocket inverter. Also get an extra battery. I use them every day in my job, you cannot beat De Walt for service, availability and initial quality. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will run and/or charge off your boat batteries? Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message | I'm have a VERY basic understanding of electronics, enough to install stuff on | my boat or in a car, but that's about it. Basic enough to assume Router Bits have motors????!!! I mean Really!! How friggin' basic is that assumption!? CM |
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Are your Router Bits AC or Battery pack types?
Inquiring minds would like to know? Bwahahahahahahahaaa!!! CM "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... | Nutsy take a look at the heading on the subject; 12V DRILLS. We are | talking battery powered tools | | | My B&D grinder is AC powered. We were talking about battery powered DRILLS | Thom. | Pay attention. DRILLS. Do you think the battery packs for my AC powered grinder | will be hurt if the heat goes out? | Simon says: YOU'RE BUSTED AGAIN! | | RB |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Bob, I'm really dissappointed. You are an expert on everything else. Are you saying that you know nothing about electronics? I'm have a VERY basic understanding of electronics, enough to install stuff on my boat or in a car, but that's about it. Uh ... Ok ... you know as much about electronics as you do about boat polishers?? Wally seems to be wearing a stout pair of boots. I'm glad that he's not kicking my arse. How does it feel? Sorry! Are you an expert in electronics? V=IR! Impressed, huh? Regards Donal -- |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message One thing's for sure. Most of you haven't even tried to | use a grinder, so you can only guess at how well it works. Well.... DUH!!! We have Professional Grade Buffers! My favourite is Crystal... but Barb does a fine job as well! I've used both and | using a grinder takes more skill, but does a faster better job. Bwahahahahahahahaaa!!! Give it up Bob! Next thing you'll be claiming you use a Sawsall as a crevice cleaner!! Bwahahahahahahaaa!!! CM |
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... | Any 12 volt drill will charge off your 12V batteries (which are higher | than that I hope). What's the problem exactly? | | | He can't afford the drill, batteries or charger. While Bob uses his Professional Grade Cordless B&D Drill with variable speed as a powerhead for his roto-rooter! CM |
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Donal wrote: Sorry! Are you an expert in electronics? V/I=R! Impressed, huh? |
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Nutsy,
If they are in a locker and you have one, you must have access to them for maintenance. Why can you photograph them? Busted Again! OT |
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Nutsy,
You pay attention! We're talking Battery Power. You've already mentioned to others to stay on topic; Busted Again If your " Pro Grinder' is AC then why can't you Photograph it? Busted Twice If it not available in the winter time how in the world did you do all those jobs you mentioned 3 rd Bust Pay attention to you replies you've made or you'll be BUSTING YOURSELF AGAIN I'm just reposting your Posts OT |
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CM,
Nutsy has just stated that his B&D Pro Grinder is AC. He didn't say why he can't photograph it. You don't suppose he is afraid to take a picture of it because his camera is DC do you. He admitts to very basic electonic knowledge Guess this isn't a Bust only maybe a BENT. OT |
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If you look at the information you quoted ( Porter-Cable) the grinders are
rated at one speed. Also if you can lean on a 7 amp grinder enough to slow it down, you have produced enough friction to have already burned through the gelcoat. Again if 3M recomends a max of 3000 rpm, and you exceed with sucess I commend you, you were lucky, and very careful. Besides B&D shows only 2 grinders on their site, both 4 1/2" dia with a speed of 10,000rpm http://www.blackanddecker.com/produc...owertools.aspx nothing with a variable speed though. They do show a polisher on that site. Again I have used many hand held or Snag grinders, none with variable speed, though they may exist. I work on boats a little more than once a year by the way. "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Bob, I am a tinsmith and use these tools every day. A grinder has the lowest speeds you state, and are way to fast for polishing, They also use a much higher amperage draw than a polisher and will not slow as a polisher will with pressure. They do not have a variable speed range and will burn through any gell coat at their rated speeds, read the can a can of compound from any reputible manufacturer such as 3M or Norton. Yes, indeed, you ARE busted. My B&D Grinder and several other's I've seen ARE VARIABLE. Some DO have variable speed. One of the Porter Cable units I used to use was also variable. Mine goes down to 2500 RPM, though I use higher RPM during jobs. http://www.powertoolservices.com/too...on/6154-70.htm Meanwhile 3M suggests a max RPM of 3000 RPM, but you can safely exceed that by a good margin. We certainly haven't damaged any hulls using the B&D. Meanwhile I've never used ANY grinder that didn't slow down quite a bit with a big polish pad on it and under load. Stop talking about stuff you don't know about. I actually work on boats every year. RB |
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By the way , do you own one of those Milwaukee grinders?
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Bob, I am a tinsmith and use these tools every day. A grinder has the lowest speeds you state, and are way to fast for polishing, They also use a much higher amperage draw than a polisher and will not slow as a polisher will with pressure. They do not have a variable speed range and will burn through any gell coat at their rated speeds, read the can a can of compound from any reputible manufacturer such as 3M or Norton. Yes, indeed, you ARE busted. My B&D Grinder and several other's I've seen ARE VARIABLE. Some DO have variable speed. One of the Porter Cable units I used to use was also variable. Mine goes down to 2500 RPM, though I use higher RPM during jobs. http://www.powertoolservices.com/too...on/6154-70.htm Meanwhile 3M suggests a max RPM of 3000 RPM, but you can safely exceed that by a good margin. We certainly haven't damaged any hulls using the B&D. Meanwhile I've never used ANY grinder that didn't slow down quite a bit with a big polish pad on it and under load. Stop talking about stuff you don't know about. I actually work on boats every year. RB |
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To this I would have to agree
"DSK" wrote in message ... "Capt. Mooron" wrote: Poor Bob thinks you can use a grinder as a polisher.... Look again! Sure, you can use a grinder as a polisher... as long as you either don't mind the surface looking ground rather than polished, or if you're too stupid to know the difference. Guess which applies to Bubbles? Don't forget, he's nuts! DSK |
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The only thing you can be certain of is that Bob has no grinder.... as well
as no clue about tools. CM "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... | CM, | | Nutsy has just stated that his B&D Pro Grinder is AC. He didn't say why | he can't photograph it. You don't suppose he is afraid to take a picture | of it because his camera is DC do you. He admitts to very basic | electonic knowledge | | Guess this isn't a Bust only maybe a BENT. | | OT | |
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Don't bother, if you can't tell the difference between a grinder and a
polisher it would be extreme overkill to use my skills on your boat. "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... I am the guy you see using these tools every day to remove/clean up welds and prepare steel surfaces. Great. I'll look for some steel surfaces on my boat and call you if I find any that need work! Bwahahahaha! RB |
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You pay attention! We're talking Battery Power.
Battery powered grinders? Nope. We were never talking about that. You're off topic. RB |
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By the way , do you own one of those Milwaukee grinders?
Nope. I've been using the B&D for years. It gets borrowed a lot. I've replaced the brushes and that's it. RB |
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Bobsprit wrote:
expert. I only proved Marty wrong about the power adapter, and he's trying to twist the thread into a new topic. The only thing you have proved, once again, is that you are a liar. You do obfuscate with a modicum of alacrity though. As usual, as soon as your massive ignorance is exposed you accuse others of 'twisting the thread' and scream 'I win'. Now you can prove me wrong, just post the exact words I used about the adapter from crap shack about which I was wrong. You know Bob, If you'd open up your mind a bit and stop posturing you could learn a lot from this group, there's no shame in ignorance, you can learn, unfounded arrogance and braggadocio is however a different matter. Cheers Marty |
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Donal wrote:
V=IR! We who 'do' electronics for a living tend to use 'E' rather than 'V', P=(I**2)R for example. I think the physics boys like 'V', is that right Jonathon? Cheers Marty |
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MC wrote:
You don't know how to wire and solder a plug? You can get them radioshack... There are a couple of problems here MC, number one; does the drill in question actually have a jack or does it use a removable battery pack that plugs into a separate charger? If it is the latter then a small inverter is going to be the easiest solution to implement. If the former, then you may have other problems; does the drill contain charge control circuitry, or is it going to be necessary to make some sort external controller, or should you just put in a current limiting resister and take a chance on frying or drastically shorting the life of the batteries? Cheers Marty |
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The only thing you have proved, once again, is that you are a liar. You do
obfuscate with a modicum of alacrity though. As usual, as soon as your massive ignorance is exposed you accuse others of 'twisting the thread' and scream 'I win'. Sorry, Marty. You didn't even know the power adapters existed. I posted links. Now you're angry! How sad. RB |
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You know Bob, If you'd open up your mind a bit and stop posturing
That's pretty funny, Marty. I ask more questions here than ANYONE else and I usually get good answers. Most recently I asked about SSB and ham radios and sounder thru hulls. Meanwhile, when you "doubted" the existence of 12 volt power adapters and I posted proof, you got in a snit and started asking electronics questions. Why? Because you were busted and became insecure. You needed to QUIZ me so you could establish some proof of your superior knowledge in a given area. YOU are the one who postures. It's the "posturing" and insecurity of the people here that allows me to so easily control and beat all of you. THINK about it. Of course you all cry otherwise, scrambling for mutual support in your frail attacks. I can also feign insecurity on a given subject, thereby exposing the rest of you as I turn...essentially a mental "Rope a dope" that leaves you all frustrated and showing your plumes like a flock of impotent Peacocks! Capt RB |
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Bobsprit wrote:
[snipped all but the truth] I, essentially a mental dope and impotent Peacock! RB Still have that reading comprehension problem i see, oh well mayby I'll try again later, right know I have to go polish my chrome anchor with my motorized router bits. Cheers Marty |
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I do, a '6090', 7''. It has a nominal speed of 6000rpm. I have never heard
it 'bog down'. In reality, Bobs' grinder is a B&D 1/4'' drill with a sanding wheel. SV "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... By the way , do you own one of those Milwaukee grinders? |
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No. what is it? A lot of the bigger shops use air grinders/ polishers. Ever
seen a Waldrich Seigen 90'' roll grinder? Scotty "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... ever hears of a B&D bobcat grinder? If not you havent been in much of a fab shop. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... A pro grinder, eh? WTF is that? I've been in a lot of big steel fab , machine shops & weld shops and can't recall ever seeing a B&D tool. You lose! SV "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Bob strikes me as the type of person to have a Hilti gun and no clue as to how to use it.... for the sole purpose to claim he has professional grade tools. Next he'll claim he only buys Milwaukee Tools! Sorry, Mooron, I buy tools that last. I've had a B&D professional grinder for 11 years and used it on boat tasks for 9 years. My Porta Cable sander is not only durable, it also does a better job than others I've used. The Makita is a film set standard for the setbuilders union and costs under 150.00. At such a small price why cheap out with a Ryobi? There's just no reason to not have the better tool when the cost is so small. As usual, you're not only wrong, but shown to be a cooked fish in the process! Enjoy your Walgreen Drill!!! Bwahahahahahaha! RB |
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Of course ****Head had to turn this into another one of his ****ing
contests. Don't you ever win? Boo Hoo! Please don't call Marty a ****head. RB |
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No problemo. Was thinking of getting a drill to keep onboard and would be
handy if I could run it off the boat batts. Yeah, way handy to be tethered to the batteries on a boat!!! Scotty is SUCH A MORON! RB |
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No problemo. Was thinking of getting a drill to keep onboard and would be
handy if I could run it off the boat batts. Of course ****Head had to turn this into another one of his ****ing contests. SV "MC" wrote in message ... Any 12 volt drill will charge off your 12V batteries (which are higher than that I hope). What's the problem exactly? Cheers Scott Vernon wrote: Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will run and/or charge off your boat batteries? Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ |
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Scott Vernon wrote:
In reality, Bobs' grinder is a B&D 1/4'' drill with a sanding wheel. That would explain the 'trigger speed control' he claims it has. -- Wally www.artbywally.com |
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"Bobsprit" wrote Yup. The Triple Big Mac is massive and a bit hard to handle with one hand. I don't know what I weigh now. Probably 300 or more I suppose. RB |
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Here we see bob**** in all his glory, displaying his professional tool set:
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.LZZZZZZZ.jpg here is his massive professional grinder: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...-6237933-75383 58?v=glance&s=toys&me=A3UN6WX5RRO2AG&vi=pictures&i mg=14#more-pictures SV "Wally" wrote in message ... Scott Vernon wrote: In reality, Bobs' grinder is a B&D 1/4'' drill with a sanding wheel. That would explain the 'trigger speed control' he claims it has. -- Wally www.artbywally.com |
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if the battery pack has a plug there should be no problem. If it's a
fancy holder then the holder will need to be modified to add a new socket for external battery power -assuming it can be taken apart. Cheers Martin Baxter wrote: MC wrote: You don't know how to wire and solder a plug? You can get them radioshack... There are a couple of problems here MC, number one; does the drill in question actually have a jack or does it use a removable battery pack that plugs into a separate charger? If it is the latter then a small inverter is going to be the easiest solution to implement. If the former, then you may have other problems; does the drill contain charge control circuitry, or is it going to be necessary to make some sort external controller, or should you just put in a current limiting resister and take a chance on frying or drastically shorting the life of the batteries? Cheers Marty |
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We call them "Timesavers" I believe. In my Plant we use them for surfacing
clutch plates. I think they are similar, but have never heard of the manufacturer you mentioned. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... No. what is it? A lot of the bigger shops use air grinders/ polishers. Ever seen a Waldrich Seigen 90'' roll grinder? Scotty "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... ever hears of a B&D bobcat grinder? If not you havent been in much of a fab shop. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... A pro grinder, eh? WTF is that? I've been in a lot of big steel fab , machine shops & weld shops and can't recall ever seeing a B&D tool. You lose! SV "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Bob strikes me as the type of person to have a Hilti gun and no clue as to how to use it.... for the sole purpose to claim he has professional grade tools. Next he'll claim he only buys Milwaukee Tools! Sorry, Mooron, I buy tools that last. I've had a B&D professional grinder for 11 years and used it on boat tasks for 9 years. My Porta Cable sander is not only durable, it also does a better job than others I've used. The Makita is a film set standard for the setbuilders union and costs under 150.00. At such a small price why cheap out with a Ryobi? There's just no reason to not have the better tool when the cost is so small. As usual, you're not only wrong, but shown to be a cooked fish in the process! Enjoy your Walgreen Drill!!! Bwahahahahahaha! RB |
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This one can grind rolls 40' long , 60'' dia.
http://www.ingersoll.de/wasi/us/ I spelled Siegen wrong. SV "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... We call them "Timesavers" I believe. In my Plant we use them for surfacing clutch plates. I think they are similar, but have never heard of the manufacturer you mentioned. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... No. what is it? A lot of the bigger shops use air grinders/ polishers. Ever seen a Waldrich Seigen 90'' roll grinder? Scotty "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... ever hears of a B&D bobcat grinder? If not you havent been in much of a fab shop. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... A pro grinder, eh? WTF is that? I've been in a lot of big steel fab , machine shops & weld shops and can't recall ever seeing a B&D tool. You lose! SV "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Bob strikes me as the type of person to have a Hilti gun and no clue as to how to use it.... for the sole purpose to claim he has professional grade tools. Next he'll claim he only buys Milwaukee Tools! Sorry, Mooron, I buy tools that last. I've had a B&D professional grinder for 11 years and used it on boat tasks for 9 years. My Porta Cable sander is not only durable, it also does a better job than others I've used. The Makita is a film set standard for the setbuilders union and costs under 150.00. At such a small price why cheap out with a Ryobi? There's just no reason to not have the better tool when the cost is so small. As usual, you're not only wrong, but shown to be a cooked fish in the process! Enjoy your Walgreen Drill!!! Bwahahahahahaha! RB |
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Nope, never seen any thing quite like that. Our timesavers are more like a
belt sander that is about 5' wide with a 12' long belt. By the way a Wildcat (I had the wrong name before) B&D grinder is a 17 amp hand held snag grinder. They haven't made them for about 5 years, maybe longer, mine is about 15 years old and weighs about 70 pounds. A little heavy to use for polishing a boat hull. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... This one can grind rolls 40' long , 60'' dia. http://www.ingersoll.de/wasi/us/ I spelled Siegen wrong. SV "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... We call them "Timesavers" I believe. In my Plant we use them for surfacing clutch plates. I think they are similar, but have never heard of the manufacturer you mentioned. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... No. what is it? A lot of the bigger shops use air grinders/ polishers. Ever seen a Waldrich Seigen 90'' roll grinder? Scotty "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... ever hears of a B&D bobcat grinder? If not you havent been in much of a fab shop. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... A pro grinder, eh? WTF is that? I've been in a lot of big steel fab , machine shops & weld shops and can't recall ever seeing a B&D tool. You lose! SV "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Bob strikes me as the type of person to have a Hilti gun and no clue as to how to use it.... for the sole purpose to claim he has professional grade tools. Next he'll claim he only buys Milwaukee Tools! Sorry, Mooron, I buy tools that last. I've had a B&D professional grinder for 11 years and used it on boat tasks for 9 years. My Porta Cable sander is not only durable, it also does a better job than others I've used. The Makita is a film set standard for the setbuilders union and costs under 150.00. At such a small price why cheap out with a Ryobi? There's just no reason to not have the better tool when the cost is so small. As usual, you're not only wrong, but shown to be a cooked fish in the process! Enjoy your Walgreen Drill!!! Bwahahahahahaha! RB |
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Ok, seen them before, never noticed a name. 70 lb handheld?? sheesh. My 7''
is 15 amp and guesstimate 20 lbs. and that gets heavy after a bit. SV "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... Nope, never seen any thing quite like that. Our timesavers are more like a belt sander that is about 5' wide with a 12' long belt. By the way a Wildcat (I had the wrong name before) B&D grinder is a 17 amp hand held snag grinder. They haven't made them for about 5 years, maybe longer, mine is about 15 years old and weighs about 70 pounds. A little heavy to use for polishing a boat hull. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... This one can grind rolls 40' long , 60'' dia. http://www.ingersoll.de/wasi/us/ I spelled Siegen wrong. SV "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... We call them "Timesavers" I believe. In my Plant we use them for surfacing clutch plates. I think they are similar, but have never heard of the manufacturer you mentioned. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... No. what is it? A lot of the bigger shops use air grinders/ polishers. Ever seen a Waldrich Seigen 90'' roll grinder? Scotty "The Carrolls" wrote in message ... ever hears of a B&D bobcat grinder? If not you havent been in much of a fab shop. "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... A pro grinder, eh? WTF is that? I've been in a lot of big steel fab , machine shops & weld shops and can't recall ever seeing a B&D tool. You lose! SV "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Bob strikes me as the type of person to have a Hilti gun and no clue as to how to use it.... for the sole purpose to claim he has professional grade tools. Next he'll claim he only buys Milwaukee Tools! Sorry, Mooron, I buy tools that last. I've had a B&D professional grinder for 11 years and used it on boat tasks for 9 years. My Porta Cable sander is not only durable, it also does a better job than others I've used. The Makita is a film set standard for the setbuilders union and costs under 150.00. At such a small price why cheap out with a Ryobi? There's just no reason to not have the better tool when the cost is so small. As usual, you're not only wrong, but shown to be a cooked fish in the process! Enjoy your Walgreen Drill!!! Bwahahahahahaha! RB |
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Makita drills are considered by many to be the best. They have a charger
that works off 12v cigar plug. Available often on EBAY. http://us.st7.yimg.com/store4.yimg.c...1775_193811319 Scott Vernon wrote: Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will run and/or charge off your boat batteries? Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ |
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Makita drills are considered by many to be the best. They have a charger
that works off 12v cigar plug. Available often on EBAY. Forget it. I already suggested Makita to the dang fool. He wants a drill from SeaSnooze that will run off hearing aid batteries. RB |
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Thank you Grouchy. That's what I was looking for.
-- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "Grouch" wrote in message ... Makita drills are considered by many to be the best. They have a charger that works off 12v cigar plug. Available often on EBAY. http://us.st7.yimg.com/store4.yimg.c...1775_193811319 Scott Vernon wrote: Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will run and/or charge off your boat batteries? Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ |
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You are welcome. I just went through the wondering phase and my BIL set
me straight to the charger he has used for years in his work truck. BTW best to stick with NiMH over the older NiCad batteries. They last longer without the memory effects and have a much lower self discharge rate (means they will still have a charge weeks/months after taken off the charger. Scott Vernon wrote: Thank you Grouchy. That's what I was looking for. -- Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ "Grouch" wrote in message ... Makita drills are considered by many to be the best. They have a charger that works off 12v cigar plug. Available often on EBAY. http://us.st7.yimg.com/store4.yimg.c...1775_193811319 Scott Vernon wrote: Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will run and/or charge off your boat batteries? Scott Vernon Plowville PA __/)__/)__ |
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