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The Carrolls wrote:

Geeze, what a bunch of crap, get the most powerful De Walt you can justify
paying for and a pocket inverter. Also get an extra battery. I use them
every day in my job, you cannot beat De Walt for service, availability and
initial quality.

Finally, somebody with some decent advice. We use De Walt exclusively,
two 24 V hammers, 4 18 V drill/drivers, an 18 V circular saw and an
18V reciprocating saw, plus of course a whole mess of batteries.

Cheers
Marty

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Grinders spin way to fast.
|
| Good lord. My B&D Grinder is 3000-7000 RPM.

Good Grief Bob.... a variable speed Grinder???!!!!!!
Bwahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!


A brand new Porter Cable POLSIHER #
| 7336SP is 2500-6000 RPM.

Are you going to get one and use it as a "grinder"...????
Bwahahahahahahahaaaa!!!


| Unless your boat is pretty new, you'll be using the upper RPM ranges once
you
| know how to handle it.

Yeah... sure there Tim the Tool man! You'll need the 10k RPM to put wax on
older hulls!!

Bwahahahahahahaaaaa!!

Some grinders do up to 10'000 rpm fixed with NO load,
| and even that's fine with a big pad. It slows down a lot when applying
| wax/compound. Even skilled autoshops will use them, though paint buring is
a
| risk.

I can't even begin to tell you how totally wrong this entire statement is
Bob.... not without picturing your "Professional Grade Variable Speed B&D
Grinder!!!!!! Bwahahahahahahahaaa!!


| Sorry, BOB CARROL. I actually own and use these tools, so you can't come
in and
| hope to make crap up.

You do Bob.....

| BUSTED AGAIN!

You certainly ARE!

CM

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
|
| An eleven year old Black & Decker????? Bwahahahahahahahahhaaa
|
| Hate to pop your balloon, Capt., but B&D did make some professional-grade
| tools a while back. They weren't cheap, and they were top-notch. It's
only
| been within the past decade that B&D went the cheap consumer tool route.

You're not poping my balloon at all Max.... I have an almost identical
grinder in the lathe shop as Bob's... it's a B&D but it's not variable and
it's a brute. My B&D 1/2" drill is over 15 years old.

Now the question is would you use a grinder as a polisher.... or would you
label a grinder as "Professional Grade"???

Bob's just having some fun and so am I!

God forbid some newbie to sailing takes a cue from Bob and tries "buffing" a
hull at 10K RPM with a Grinder!!!......

CM

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I concur on DeWalt.... I only buy their tools now. No questions asked and
both problems over the last 5 years.... both tools were past the warranty
date and were serviced for free... one repair and one replacement. They
replaced my plunge-router which was a refurb with a brand new upgraded
model.

You just can't beat after market service like that! The tools are well
built.

CM



"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
| Geeze, what a bunch of crap, get the most powerful De Walt you can justify
| paying for and a pocket inverter. Also get an extra battery. I use them
| every day in my job, you cannot beat De Walt for service, availability and
| initial quality.
| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| ...
| Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which
| will
| run and/or charge off your boat batteries?
|
| Scott Vernon
| Plowville PA __/)__/)__
|
|
|

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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
| The Carrolls wrote:
|
| Geeze, what a bunch of crap, get the most powerful De Walt you can
justify
| paying for and a pocket inverter. Also get an extra battery. I use them
| every day in my job, you cannot beat De Walt for service, availability
and
| initial quality.
|
| Finally, somebody with some decent advice. We use De Walt exclusively,
| two 24 V hammers, 4 18 V drill/drivers, an 18 V circular saw and an
| 18V reciprocating saw, plus of course a whole mess of batteries.

I found the 18V circular a bit light for most wood work. I also found the
batteries tend to go quick under prolonged and constant loads. Nice tools
for a quick job or repair though. Great for around the boatyard.

To bad Bobsprit isn't allowed to work on his boat at the boatyard. He'd buy
a set in a jiffy!

CM

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| Good lord. My B&D Grinder is 3000-7000 RPM.

Good Grief Bob.... a variable speed Grinder???!!!!!!
Bwahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!


I provided a link to a variable speed model. Oops! You blew it again!

RB

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You'll need the 10k RPM to put wax on
older hulls!!


Poor mooron thinks grinders only operate at 10K. Look again!

RB

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God forbid some newbie to sailing takes a cue from Bob and tries "buffing" a
hull at 10K RPM with a Grinder!!!......

How about 4K? 6? Do you even know that some operate as low as 3500?

Guess not!

RB

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You'd tear a muscle trying to lift my grinder, pussy boy.

Only if your wife was sitting on the cord.

RB

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You'd tear a muscle trying to lift my grinder, pussy boy.

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Scotty, Tools don't make the man, the man makes the tool.

Unless of course he has no tools.


RB

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In the boatyard that won't let owners work on their boats????
Bwahahahahahahaaa

Where is that? You can do any work yourself, but you can't bring in outside
contractors, though plenty people do.

RB

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Grit??? Grit!!!! Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa. Ever hear of rubbng compound Bob?


And there you have it, folks. Mooron SURE knows boats.
Anyone with a copy of casey's This Old Boat may turn to page 45 for the correct
answer, under restoration of gelcoat. 220 wet is usually the best bet, though
I've usually gotten gel back with finer grit. A badly oxidized hull can often
be recovered this way. Worked great on the Cape Dory for instance.
You'd think that Mooron would know this, but then he's known soooo little since
his return.

Mooron...you are SOOOO BEAT!

RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| | Good lord. My B&D Grinder is 3000-7000 RPM.
|
| Good Grief Bob.... a variable speed Grinder???!!!!!!
| Bwahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!
|
|
| I provided a link to a variable speed model. Oops! You blew it again!

That's a new model with a new feature.... proving your old dinosaur has no
variable speed.

CM

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| You'll need the 10k RPM to put wax on
| older hulls!!
|
|
| Poor mooron thinks grinders only operate at 10K. Look again!


Poor Bob thinks you can use a grinder as a polisher.... Look again!

CM

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Poor Bob thinks you can use a grinder as a polisher.... Look again!

Sure, you can use a grinder as a polisher... as long as you either
don't mind the surface looking ground rather than polished, or if
you're too stupid to know the difference. Guess which applies to
Bubbles? Don't forget, he's nuts!

DSK

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Bobsprit wrote:

Radio shack Catalog #: 273-1827 made for computers, does 12-27 volts and can

be

addapted to a LOT of gear with a few adjustments.



You do realize don't you that that device is an inverter?

I said it could be adapted and I also listed a second unit that works out of
the box.
You lose.

RB
Scott was looking for a way to charge his batteries/run his drill
directly off the boat batteries, without the use of an inverter.
You jumped on BBs' coat tails and made like you knew what you were
talking about. So tell me, if you had to use a 7805 to get 9.6 V
from a 12 V input, what size of resisters you use in the divider
to 'lift' the ground leg and which side of the regulator would you
place them, for extra points explain why. Go ahead, answer that and
prove that you know something about basic electronics.

While you're at it see if you can't to learn to put more than
one point in a reply and thereby shorten the threads to which
you reply.

Cheers
Marty

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Hey Nutsy,

I started out trying to grind out the epoxy tar coating on the bottom of
my boat last summer. After loading up the grit on a 1/2 dozen disc on
about a sguare foot of bottom I called it a day and turned it over to
the Yard to be pealed. A rotary grinder is hopeless.

I've seen (Younger men than me) do racing hulls with long board orbitals
do some beautiful finishes but its just to much work for me.

I'll ask you what size grit you used for the bottom of those boats you
say you've done?

Ole Thom

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While you're at it see if you can't to learn to put more than
one point in a reply and thereby shorten the threads to which
you reply.

Marty, I like your desperate attempt after I proved you wrong. As I said, radio
shack and others make 12V adapters with a sliding switch to choose various
voltages. They even have different tips to fit. You got busted and now want a
crash course in resisters? Why not just ask for the secret KFC recipe and they
you can "really" be right for once?!

RB

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I'll ask you what size grit you used for the bottom of those boats you
say you've done?

To which job, Thom? We used chemicals (A gell remover I don't recall at the
moment) with faired paint scrapers to remove most of the paint from a few
boats, then finished with 220 wet to bring the gel back. Final step is the 3M
paste and wheel on the grinder at low-moderate speeds. It was a lot of work,
but it really came out nice.
As for the boat bottoms, I'm done doing that. It's a really unhealthy job and
my yard is cutting me a good deal. We used to make the long sanding boards as
well. Backbraking nasty work, especially for someone as tall as me.

RB

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Well, he certainly has a history of stealing things... maybe he's reformed.

"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
Nope.
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I hope you're not accusing bob of thievery.

"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
Very true, I had a B&D Pirana, one of the first 12 volt models made.
it
was
one of the best drills I have ever owned, had it stolen 8 years ago.
"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

An eleven year old Black & Decker????? Bwahahahahahahahahhaaa

Hate to pop your balloon, Capt., but B&D did make some
professional-grade
tools a while back. They weren't cheap, and they were top-notch.
It's
only
been within the past decade that B&D went the cheap consumer tool
route.

Max

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Bobsprit wrote:

While you're at it see if you can't to learn to put more than
one point in a reply and thereby shorten the threads to which
you reply.

Marty, I like your desperate attempt after I proved you wrong. As I said, radio
shack and others make 12V adapters with a sliding switch to choose various
voltages. They even have different tips to fit. You got busted and now want a
crash course in resisters? Why not just ask for the secret KFC recipe and they
you can "really" be right for once?!

RB
Don't know eh? You are so totally exposed again, dang it's
a bitch to type when I'm laughing so hard at your feeble attempts
to wiggle away yet again!

Ha! You wouldn't know a transistor from a thyrister.

Cheers
Marty

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Ha! You wouldn't know a transistor from a thyrister.


Sorry, Marty. I thwamped you on the power adapter that you never heard of, just
like poor Mooron thought there are only 10'000 rpm grinders.
You clowns don't a thing and it's proven. Let me know when you want the KFC
recipe. I really do have it.

RB

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Bobsprit wrote:
Ha! You wouldn't know a transistor from a thyrister.

Sorry, Marty.

Respond to the gentleman's assertion, Bob - show that you know the
difference between a transistor and a thyristor.


I thwamped you on the power adapter that you never
heard of, just like poor Mooron thought there are only 10'000 rpm
grinders.

Speaking of proof, you have yet to verify your claim that your 11 year old
B&D grinder - the one you use for buffing/polishing - is a variable speed
model. You know know the criterion of verification, Bob - photographic
evidence. Without that, you know yourself that your claim is BS.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com

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Respond to the gentleman's assertion, Bob - show that you know the
difference between a transistor and a thyristor.

Why, Wally? I never said that I was an electronics expert. I only proved Marty
wrong about the power adapter, and he's trying to twist the thread into a new
topic. I'm not biting.
And so he's exposed just like Mooron who never knew grinders could be variable
speed, who never heard of using sandpaper on gelcoat, who never heard that B&D
used to make pro tools...and so it goes.
It's got to be truly frustrating when all of you still can't prove a single
point. Note that I posted links and even gave a page number for This Old Boat
to expose poor Mooron.
It's that easy against the likes of all of you! Enjoy your Ryobi's!

Bwahahahahahahaha! Hohohoh ahahahaha!

RB

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Bobsprit wrote:

Ha! You wouldn't know a transistor from a thyrister.


Sorry, Marty. I thwamped you on the power adapter that you never heard of, just
like poor Mooron thought there are only 10'000 rpm grinders.
You clowns don't a thing and it's proven. Let me know when you want the KFC
recipe. I really do have it.

RB

Only in you own mind, what a winner. You showed me an inverter
that Scott didn't want.

I'm sure KFC gave you the recipe after you became
the worlds largest consumer of their product.

Cheers
Marty

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You know know the criterion of verification, Bob - photographic
evidence. Without that, you know yourself that your claim is BS.

I'm the ONLY one here to usually provide such evidence. I'll be happy to post a
pic in the spring. My boat tools are locked up at the yard. No problem posting
a pic in the spring. BTW, the speed control is on the trigger, and is not a
dial like on newer units. It locks into 4 or 5 positions.

RB

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Only in you own mind, what a winner. You showed me an inverter
that Scott didn't want.

But you didn't think it even existed, Marty, You were proven wrong AGAIN.
Scotty doesn't want anything of quality. That much is clear.

RB

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He's just the world's largest consumer... KFC has nothing to do
with it. If you can't get your facts straight, you must be bobo.

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Bobsprit wrote:

Ha! You wouldn't know a transistor from a thyrister.


Sorry, Marty. I thwamped you on the power adapter that you never heard
of, just
like poor Mooron thought there are only 10'000 rpm grinders.
You clowns don't a thing and it's proven. Let me know when you want the
KFC
recipe. I really do have it.

RB

Only in you own mind, what a winner. You showed me an inverter
that Scott didn't want.

I'm sure KFC gave you the recipe after you became
the worlds largest consumer of their product.

Cheers
Marty

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Any 12 volt drill will charge off your 12V batteries (which are higher
than that I hope). What's the problem exactly?

Cheers

Scott Vernon wrote:

Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill which will
run and/or charge off your boat batteries?

Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__

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You don't know how to wire and solder a plug? You can get them radioshack...

Cheers MC

Scott Vernon wrote:

well it should be obvious I don't know what to do or I wouldn't have asked.


wrote in message
...

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:16:37 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:


I have an inverter. I'd like a drill that runs direct off the batts.


Any of them can if you know what to do. You don't need an inverter for
12 volt rechargables.

BB


SV

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

Good guess, since I'm asking.


wrote in message
m...

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 12:00:17 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:


Boats-r-US has a Seafit 12v drill on sale. Is there a 12v drill

which

will

run and/or charge off your boat batteries?


All of them can if you know what to do. Oops! I guess that eliminates
you.

BB


Scott Vernon
Plowville PA __/)__/)__

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

God forbid some newbie to sailing takes a cue from Bob and tries "buffing"
a
hull at 10K RPM with a Grinder!!!......

How about 4K? 6? Do you even know that some operate as low as 3500?

Still way too fast. 1500rpm is about as fast as you want a hull polisher to
run.

. . .unless you and gelcoat have no particular love for each other.

Max

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Still way too fast. 1500rpm is about as fast as you want a hull polisher to
run.

And yet 3M says 3K is a safe max. Hmmm. Think I'll beleive 3M and my own actual
experience on this one. One thing's for sure. Most of you haven't even tried to
use a grinder, so you can only guess at how well it works. I've used both and
using a grinder takes more skill, but does a faster better job.

RB

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Any 12 volt drill will charge off your 12V batteries (which are higher
than that I hope). What's the problem exactly?


He can't afford the drill, batteries or charger.

RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Respond to the gentleman's assertion, Bob - show that you know the
difference between a transistor and a thyristor.

Why, Wally? I never said that I was an electronics expert.

Bob, I'm really dissappointed. You are an expert on everything else.

Are you saying that you know nothing about electronics?




I only proved Marty
wrong about the power adapter,

Well....??? NO You didn't.


and he's trying to twist the thread into a new
topic. I'm not biting.

Yes you are!


And so he's exposed just like Mooron who never knew grinders could be
variable
speed, who never heard of using sandpaper on gelcoat, who never heard that
B&D
used to make pro tools...and so it goes.
It's got to be truly frustrating when all of you still can't prove a
single
point. Note that I posted links and even gave a page number for This Old
Boat
to expose poor Mooron.

We still haven't seen a photo of your 11 y/o variable speed B&D grinder.


It's that easy against the likes of all of you! Enjoy your Ryobi's!



Regards


Donal
--

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Nutsy,

You sure as hell BUSTED YOURSELF

You can't send picture because your tools are locked up on your boat.
The Boat is hauled for the winter,

Nutsy take a look at the heading on the subject; 12V DRILLS. We are
talking battery powered tools

Why in the world would anybody that has a battery powered tool lock it
up on boat without power for the winter?

You "BUSTED YOURSELF"

You'll send pictures in the Spring; You mean when you can gather,beg,
barrow or steal all these great, best of the line battery driven tools
you are supposed to have. Are they locked on the boat without power and
the batteries are going dead.

You're not doing any house maintenance this winter then because you
can't get to your tools

You "BUSTED YOURSELF"

Your car won't be polished until next Spring? Oh,Oh;

Busted again; You've caught yourself talking out your asshole once again

All those pages about 12Volt tools in the ASA is nothing but Pure Bull
****!!

With all that BS, How do you dare say you BUSTED ANYONE?

Just wondering?
Ole Thom

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Bob, I'm really dissappointed. You are an expert on everything else.

Are you saying that you know nothing about electronics?


I'm have a VERY basic understanding of electronics, enough to install stuff on
my boat or in a car, but that's about it.
Sorry! Are you an expert in electronics?

RB

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You can't send picture because your tools are locked up on your boat.
The Boat is hauled for the winter,


They aren't on the boat, Thom. They are in the storage building which is
heated. This is where everyone keeps their boat batteries as well. There are a
bunch of lockers there I'm lucky enough to have one.
Sorry....please try again! And take it easy!

RB

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Nutsy take a look at the heading on the subject; 12V DRILLS. We are
talking battery powered tools


My B&D grinder is AC powered. We were talking about battery powered DRILLS
Thom.
Pay attention. DRILLS. Do you think the battery packs for my AC powered grinder
will be hurt if the heat goes out?
Simon says: YOU'RE BUSTED AGAIN!

RB

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Any tool that Bob**** buys, lasts. It never gets used.

PDW

In article .net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Sorry, Mooron, I buy tools that last.

I bought a Ryobi 18V 1/2" drill, and it still is working perfectly after
several years of moderate use. But it's hard to argue with buying good
quality tools. I bought a Fein detail sander yesterday at a woodworking
show. It should last forever.

Max