"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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Oz1 wrote in message ...

You should take a look at the Yachtmasters, it's far more demanding
than your silly little title.


No, it isn't.

Pray tell.

It would be interesting to know what the differences are.



Regards


Donal
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Thank you, Donal.

Go to the head of the class.

S.Simon


"Donal" wrote in message ...

"Shen44" wrote in message
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Even the yacht harbor water taxi's I've seen, won't hire anyone with less
than
a 100 tn license. Your license is nothing, if you can't use it.

Does that really matter?


Don't people study, and take exams, just to learn about their subject?

Isn't is possible to use your license every single time that you go sailing?


Regards


Donal
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The "chartwork" portion of the USCG test is actually rather demanding. Its not
so hard for those of us that learned to navigate the "old way," but a lot of
newcomers have trouble with running fixes, etc. I know several people that
passed the other portions but failed chartwork.

While its true that the Yachtmaster test has a real live "hands on" component
that is lacking in the USCG test, it is possible to get the highest level with
only 2 months experience. The "Coastal Skipper" only requires a few weeks.

On the other hand, 360 days of experience is required to get the lowest Master's
license. Its virtually impossible for the seasonal recreational sailor to get
this with less than 5 years experience. Even the "6-pack" Operators license
requires this. Neal's "Near Coastal" Master's license requires 720 days, half
of which must be "Near Coastal," which on the East Coast generally means 10
miles offshore, or outside of any protection. This is almost impossible to
accumulate without extended cruising or professional service.

The USCG license also has a series of tests, which take most of a day to
complete. The rules test, in particular, is closed book, requires 90% to pass,
and is rather tricky. In addition, there is a physical, drug test, first
aid/CPR class, etc.

And as Shen and Otn will point out, this is "entry level," and has little
meaning in larger vessels.



"Donal" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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"JN" wrote in message
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Now you're qualified to take me for an evening sail next summer when I
spend
my annual week in the Keys and serve me a glass of wine when I demand
it,
serve me a snack when I want it, and in general put up with all my
garbage
because I won't give a tip if you don't ?????

Huh, cappy wappy? Is that what your paper gives you permission to do?


Thats the OZ yachtmaster ticket you must be talking about. I hear the
only pratical test a "yachtmaster" has to take, is how quick he can
get his knee pads on and off. Here in the USA licences are for working
mariners.

Joe, it appears that you know as much about the Yachtmaster qualification as
you do about international affairs.

One of the tests involves sitting at the chart table, with the ports blacked
out, and predicting your position to within a few metres.

In other words, you have to sail (and navigate) the boat "blind".

Do you have to do this for the USCG ticket?



Regards


Donal
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"Jeff Morris" wrote:

The USCG license also has a series of tests, which take most of a day to
complete. The rules test, in particular, is closed book, requires 90% to
pass,
and is rather tricky. In addition, there is a physical, drug test, first
aid/CPR class, etc.

And as Shen and Otn will point out, this is "entry level," and has little
meaning in larger vessels.

So what kind of license do you have to have to buy a Nordica 30 and sail it
in the USA?

LP

Lots of fishing outfits in the gulf hire 25gters to run party boats.
Why a water taxi would need a 100 ton captian is beyond me. Must be a
supply and demand thing.

Joe

More of an insurance issue. The higher license generally will require a greater
degree of experience and knowledge.

Shen

What does that make your license? Unnecessary and
of little use.

S.Simon


No, G it makes his license more versatile and less restrictive.

Shen

Yeah they buy up aluminum surplus oilfield bay boats put rails on them
and wala. They still work the rigs. Plus alot of 6 pack type boats
that troll the gulf for big game.

Joe

6-pac and 25 ton, as we know are two different things, most of what you are
describing, seem to fall under the 6-pac, or are you saying people, people hire
the 25 ton license holders to run boats which only need a 6-pac? As otn said, a
25 ton boat is fairly small.

Shen

One of the tests involves sitting at the chart table, with the ports blacked
out, and predicting your position to within a few metres.

In other words, you have to sail (and navigate) the boat "blind".


Interesting, what if any inputs do you get?

Shen

Subject: And ???????
From: "Donal"

"Shen44" wrote

Even the yacht harbor water taxi's I've seen, won't hire anyone with less
than
a 100 tn license. Your license is nothing, if you can't use it.

Does that really matter?

Depends on the person. In Neal's case, the only reason to have it, is to try
and impress those who don't know better, for whatever reason.



Don't people study, and take exams, just to learn about their subject?

Yup, but you don't need a license to show that you've studied .... especially
if you have no intention to use it.

Isn't is possible to use your license every single time that you go sailing?

It's possible and practical, to use the "knowledge" which you acquired in
getting the license, but Neal NEVER uses his 25 ton license when he goes
sailing, and his other license, is an "operators" license.


Shen

"Shen44" wrote in message
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One of the tests involves sitting at the chart table, with the ports
blacked
out, and predicting your position to within a few metres.

In other words, you have to sail (and navigate) the boat "blind".


Interesting, what if any inputs do you get?


Not much. ... The slapping of the waves on the hull??

Regards


Donal
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