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Rick December 28th 03 07:18 PM

Professional Courtesy and Respect?
 
Simple Simon wrote:

This is a talent NEVER developed by those who
sit isolated in a pilot house on the bridge.



Nil, what are you doing in a thread labeled "Professional Courtesy and
Respect?"

As your last post clearly shows, you are not a professional, you exhibit
no signs of courtesy, and you certainly have not earned the respect of
any professional mariner.

You are an occasionally amusing irritant to those who seek nautical
information in this forum, otherwise you are nothing but a partially
skilled amateur, nibbling, like a parrotfish, at the reef of skills and
knowledge you will never digest.

Rick


Simple Simon December 28th 03 07:25 PM

Professional Courtesy and Respect?
 

"Rick" wrote in message ink.net...
Simple Simon wrote:

This is a talent NEVER developed by those who
sit isolated in a pilot house on the bridge.



Nil, what are you doing in a thread labeled "Professional Courtesy and
Respect?"



Pay attention, Rick! I STARTED the thread!

S.Simon







Rick December 28th 03 07:27 PM

Professional Courtesy and Respect?
 
Simple Simon wrote:

Pay attention, Rick! I STARTED the thread!



I know. That only makes it more absurd.

Rick


Jonathan Ganz December 28th 03 08:22 PM

Professional Courtesy and Respect?
 
Absurd, Neal... it fits.

"Rick" wrote in message
ink.net...
Simple Simon wrote:

Pay attention, Rick! I STARTED the thread!



I know. That only makes it more absurd.

Rick




Shen44 December 28th 03 09:45 PM

And ???????
 
Subject: And ???????
From: "Simple Simon"




It's called 'extrapolation' (look it up!). It's obvious
you have never exercised your brain and extrapolated
anything. This is a talent that is highly developed in
a real sailboat skipper. A small sailboat almost becomes
like an arm or a leg. It becomes an extension of one's
body and one can use input from the way it moves,
the heel, the roll, the sound of the water past the
hull, the sound of the wind, etc. to extrapolate
course and speed. If done regularly it becomes
second nature. Most any competent sailboat skipper
can do dead reckoning for long periods of time
using nothing but his senses even if he is below
most of the time.


From what I understood Donal to say, the person taking the test, is in an
enclosed space with no visual references and possibly muted noise, for the
entire time ..... not at all what you are describing.
What you describe is normal DR-ing, done by all, whether it be power, sail,
open cockpit or closed wheelhouse.

I once deduced my course so accurately and
made corrections as I went along only by
dead reckoning alone that after a passage of
18 hours from Beaufort N.C. I dead-centered
the ship channel through Frying Pan Shoals at
dawn - came close to hitting the sea buoy as a
matter of fact after ducking below to make
coffee and emerging to look over the bow at
it.

This is a talent NEVER developed by those who
sit isolated in a pilot house on the bridge.

S.Simon


G Once again, your lack of experience is showing. It's still and continues to
be obvious, that you have no conception of what goes on, onboard any type of
vessel, other than your own, and that you have little ability to relate that
experience to other circumstances, other than your own.

Shen

Joe December 28th 03 10:54 PM

And ???????
 
"Simple Simon" wrote in message news:


Can't even spell Cajun.


I can spell it : Coonass

Joe



S.Simon


Joe December 28th 03 11:09 PM

And ???????
 
(Roy G. Biv) wrote in message news

I recall just such an accident happened in fog between the Fort Meyers
Ferry and a small fishing boat, which I reported to Alt Sail ASA back
in 2001 during a thread on navigating in fog:
heres the text, link below;


Yeah, I recall a ferry smashing into the dock in the clear daylight
not so long ago in NY. Accidents happen.

They failed to maintain a proper lookout with radar. Has nothing to
do with safe speed, the jerk you talked about most likely would of ran
someone over at 3 knots.

Joe



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During a recent fog on the Florida west coast
the Ft Meyers Ferry (FT Meyers - Key West)
collided with a small fishing vessel in fog, 1 dead, two injured.
From
the photos in the local
paper, the smaller vessels bow/fwd quarter hit the ferrys stb. side.

of course, _Both_ vessels are at fault as a collision should have been
avoidable had Both vessels been maintaining a prudent speed and watch.

The Ferry has multiple radar, the fishing vessel had a substantial
aluminum framed T-top with above console mounted electronics box (not
just a bimini)

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link

http://www.google.com/groups?hl=en&l...net%26rnum%3D1

Donal December 29th 03 12:29 AM

Professional Courtesy and Respect?
 

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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"Rick" wrote in message

ink.net...
Nil, what are you doing in a thread labeled "Professional Courtesy and
Respect?"



Pay attention, Rick! I STARTED the thread!


That *is* a very good answer. ......

Thank God that nobody has ever managed to deliver such a mortal blow to me!

Regards


Donal
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Donal December 29th 03 12:36 AM

And ???????
 

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Donal" wrote in message

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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
What about 20 knots on a pitch black dark night, guess thats unsafe

to.

A yacht's lights are easier to see on a pitch black night than on a

moonlit
night. However, in thick fog, you can't see anything!

What about a tree trunk the size of a car? Any running lights on it,
How about a bouy, not all are lit. Hows about the typical weekend
warrior who forgot to turn on his running lights, hows about a rocky
jettie, how about a tow line and the million other things you can not
see on a pitch black night?


Are you really claiming that it is easy to avoid hitting a tree trunk at 25
kts? Are you saying that you think that it is easier to miss a buoy at 25
kts than at 4 kts??

Pull the other one, Joe -- I put some bells on it, just for you.



That is really scary!


To a lubber like you I imagine it is. Bet you would **** your pants
if you ever landed on a airplane in the fog two. But 100's of them do
it every day.



Well, these days it is easy to land a plane. They land themselves.
Fog has nothing at all to do with landing a modern aircraft.



Regards


Donal
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Donal December 29th 03 12:38 AM

And ???????
 

"Joe" wrote in message
m...
(Roy G. Biv) wrote in message news


Yeah, I recall a ferry smashing into the dock in the clear daylight
not so long ago in NY. Accidents happen.

They failed to maintain a proper lookout with radar. Has nothing to
do with safe speed, the jerk you talked about most likely would of ran
someone over at 3 knots.


Are you claiming that you can maintain a proper lookout with radar alone?



Regards


Donal
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