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There's one for the archives.


"Simple Simon" wrote ...
Donal was right.

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"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message m...

I can safely run at 20 + knots in fog. And I can stop in the distance I can see.

Bwahahahahahahahahah! Maybe if you're an Olympic athlete
running the 100 meter dash in a fog but if you're talking about
stopping a "Thunder" type boat in the distance you can see in
a heavy fog when you're going twenty knots then you're full of
****!

S.Simon

I can see the banks, every log, perow, floating patch of seaweed and
any boat on radar for over 1 mile.

You need to broaden your understanding of the rules. And your
pratical skills need improvments if you ever want to advance above a
25 gter.

Joe

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"Joe" wrote in message om...

I can see the banks, every log, perow, floating patch of seaweed and
any boat on radar for over 1 mile.


I repeat my previous statement! You're full of ****!

Perow? Do you mean pirogue perchance? Some
Mississippi River Captain you are. Can't even
spell Cajun. Sure you aren't Terry? What a fraud!

S.Simon

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"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
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Yes we have col regs and I obeyed them. Why do you ask. Is it because
of the speed we were running?


Yes!



I cannot imagine a vessel that needs 25 kts to maintain steerage.

has nothing to do with steerage dufass, it's about doing a job.
Airplanes land in fog today, ships run in it and they are able to do
it thru the miracle of radar. You do not pass at full speed, you do
not meet other vessels at full speed. You talk to everyone your going
to meet if you can by radio. Nothing magic about it, just plain commen
sence. The job can be done safely. Just because you and Capt. Neal
lack the skill, will not make the facts different.


Even if it needed 25 kts, then I cannot see that it could not either drift,
or drop anchor.

Dumb getting dumber.


25 kts in thick fog seems to be just plain stupid.

To someone that can not figure out how to do it, it may seem stupid.
Thats the same things people said about the first airplane, man going
to the moon, penicillian, open heart surgery, artifical hearts,
electricity, cars ect........

Just takes the proper equipment, knowledge, and the ability to use it
correctly.

BUT YOU SHOULD ANCHOR AND WAIT FOR THE FOG TO LIFT..............

Joe
MSV RedCloud

Regards


Donal
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Simple Simon wrote:

What a fraud!

Bwahahahahahahaahahah! Yeah, Nil, fraud ... the one single area where
you are knowledgeable!

Nil, the illegitimate spawn of the mother of all frauds calling someone
else a fraud. Now that is really funny!

Rick

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"Rick" wrote in message nk.net...
Simple Simon wrote:

What a fraud!

Bwahahahahahahaahahah! Yeah, Nil, fraud ... the one single area where
you are knowledgeable!

Nil, the illegitimate spawn of the mother of all frauds calling someone
else a fraud. Now that is really funny!

But, not as funny as that little toy tugboat of your!

S.Simon

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"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
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"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Donal was right. You failed to comply with the rule
that states you must slow down to a safe speed in
restricted visibility. 25 knots is not a safe speed
in restricted visibility and is a direct violation of
the Rules.

Bull****. 20 knots in fog using the proper aids to navigation is not
unsafe.

Think Radar! Think Radio!

What about 20 knots on a pitch black dark night, guess thats unsafe to.

A yacht's lights are easier to see on a pitch black night than on a moonlit
night. However, in thick fog, you can't see anything!

What about a tree trunk the size of a car? Any running lights on it,
How about a bouy, not all are lit. Hows about the typical weekend
warrior who forgot to turn on his running lights, hows about a rocky
jettie, how about a tow line and the million other things you can not
see on a pitch black night?




I got news for you Neal, real captains do it all the time.


That is really scary!

To a lubber like you I imagine it is. Bet you would **** your pants
if you ever landed on a airplane in the fog two. But 100's of them do
it every day.

Regards,

Joe

Regards


Donal
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From: "Donal"


My answer was also fairly serious.

You sit at the chart table, give directions to the crew, and you have to
estimate your position after 1/2 an hour, or so.

I'm sure that you may ask the helmsman to confirm the compass reading, but
apart from that you have no feedback.

I don't know what accuracy is required to obtain a pass. I suspect that
the examiner takes the conditions into account.

Regards


Donal

Ouch! If you have to guess wind, currents, vessel speeds, set and drift, with
no inputs of any kind, this would indeed be difficult to do with any degree of
accuracy.

Shen

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Joe,

You're always in a fog.

S.Simon


"Joe" wrote in message om...
"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Donal was right. You failed to comply with the rule
that states you must slow down to a safe speed in
restricted visibility. 25 knots is not a safe speed
in restricted visibility and is a direct violation of
the Rules.

Bull****. 20 knots in fog using the proper aids to navigation is not
unsafe.

Think Radar! Think Radio!

What about 20 knots on a pitch black dark night, guess thats unsafe to.

A yacht's lights are easier to see on a pitch black night than on a moonlit
night. However, in thick fog, you can't see anything!

What about a tree trunk the size of a car? Any running lights on it,
How about a bouy, not all are lit. Hows about the typical weekend
warrior who forgot to turn on his running lights, hows about a rocky
jettie, how about a tow line and the million other things you can not
see on a pitch black night?




I got news for you Neal, real captains do it all the time.


That is really scary!

To a lubber like you I imagine it is. Bet you would **** your pants
if you ever landed on a airplane in the fog two. But 100's of them do
it every day.

Regards,

Joe

Regards


Donal
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"Shen44" wrote in message ...
Subject: And ???????
From: "Donal"


My answer was also fairly serious.

You sit at the chart table, give directions to the crew, and you have to
estimate your position after 1/2 an hour, or so.

I'm sure that you may ask the helmsman to confirm the compass reading, but
apart from that you have no feedback.

I don't know what accuracy is required to obtain a pass. I suspect that
the examiner takes the conditions into account.

Regards


Donal

Ouch! If you have to guess wind, currents, vessel speeds, set and drift, with
no inputs of any kind, this would indeed be difficult to do with any degree of
accuracy.


It's called 'extrapolation' (look it up!). It's obvious
you have never exercised your brain and extrapolated
anything. This is a talent that is highly developed in
a real sailboat skipper. A small sailboat almost becomes
like an arm or a leg. It becomes an extension of one's
body and one can use input from the way it moves,
the heel, the roll, the sound of the water past the
hull, the sound of the wind, etc. to extrapolate
course and speed. If done regularly it becomes
second nature. Most any competent sailboat skipper
can do dead reckoning for long periods of time
using nothing but his senses even if he is below
most of the time.

I once deduced my course so accurately and
made corrections as I went along only by
dead reckoning alone that after a passage of
18 hours from Beaufort N.C. I dead-centered
the ship channel through Frying Pan Shoals at
dawn - came close to hitting the sea buoy as a
matter of fact after ducking below to make
coffee and emerging to look over the bow at
it.

This is a talent NEVER developed by those who
sit isolated in a pilot house on the bridge.

S.Simon