"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Bear off.


Wrong! BIG time!

Oz is obviously an expert. Perhaps he can explain why you are completely
wrong!



Regards


Donal
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OK, if you say so. I await the analysis with interest.

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Bear off.



Wrong! BIG time!

Oz is obviously an expert. Perhaps he can explain why you are completely
wrong!

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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OK, if you say so. I await the analysis with interest.


Tomorrow. After one more "sneering" response from Oz.



Regards



Donal
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"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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OK, if you say so. I await the analysis with interest.


If you bear away, you will pass downwind of the kite-surfer. The kite is
prone to take sudden dives, and could get caught in your rigging.

The RYA has recently issued advice to sailors to make them aware of the
danger.

They also pointed out that very few kite surfers will be aware of the Coll
Regs, and even if they are aware, they will want to stay downwind of any
vessels.

There is another valid reason for leaving them downwind. Kite surfers don't
go upwind very easily. If you leave them downwind, then they will have
much more room to manoeuver.

It doesn't really matter which tack you are on.

The RYA have called for the Rules to be clarified in respect of Kite
Surfers.




Regards


Donal
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If the kite is pulling a board its a sail and the board is a vessel. If the
kite stands alone it is an un-mechanically powered seaplane unless towed by
another boat in which case the tow boat is the responsible vessel. The
question of sail or no sail is moot. If it's 'capable or being used as a
means of transportation' it comes undere ColRegs International and National
in the US and Canada. Can't speak for the Inland Rules of Britain I
haven't read thier version since 1997.

Whichever, Rule 2 still rules for your own vessel. Regardless.

MST

The question of "sail or no sail" is very relevant - it determines whether another vessel
is standon or giveway. Since between to kitesurfers they use sailboat rules
(port/starboard; windward/leeward) one might guess that a port tack kitesurfer would
respect a starboard tack sailboat.



"Schoonertrash" wrote in message ...
If the kite is pulling a board its a sail and the board is a vessel. If the
kite stands alone it is an un-mechanically powered seaplane unless towed by
another boat in which case the tow boat is the responsible vessel. The
question of sail or no sail is moot. If it's 'capable or being used as a
means of transportation' it comes undere ColRegs International and National
in the US and Canada. Can't speak for the Inland Rules of Britain I
haven't read thier version since 1997.

Whichever, Rule 2 still rules for your own vessel. Regardless.

MST

I found an interesting comment at the bottom of this page:
http://www.kitesurfing.org/faqs/what...itesurfers.htm

------------------------------------------------
The contentious point is the following statement: This has been proposed by the BKSA but
rejected by water access governing bodies.
"The kitesurfer has right of way because it is the smaller craft under sail" The BKSA
believe that this should be the case and communicated to ALL water users. I think it needs
to be reworded to express the required meaning - 'lack of contro' - as opposed to changing
normal water practices. Got an opinion? email
--------------------------------------------------------

I find two somewhat disturbing points here. First, the claim by some that the smaller
craft should have right of way. Here in the States it was a common belief by paddlers
that they had ROW because they were smaller. While this may be true in some States for
inland lakes, it is certainly not true in open waters. Fortunately, most ocean kayakers
understand this now. In fact, paddles have no special status in the ColRegs - no one is
obligated to get out of their way. by the same token, paddlers are not required to
giveway under the "pecking order" rule, thought they required "not to impede" under the
Narrow Channels/TSS rules.

The other point is that because kitesurfers "lack control" they should be given ROW. I
think makes a better case that they should not be permitted in crowded areas. This claim
would imply that any new sport is automatically entitled to as much space as they want. I
don't know much about kitesurfing, but it looks like it uses a large area for the benefit
of one person. Now they're requesting that everyone stay well clear because they can't
control their craft.




"Donal" wrote in message
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"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
OK, if you say so. I await the analysis with interest.


If you bear away, you will pass downwind of the kite-surfer. The kite is
prone to take sudden dives, and could get caught in your rigging.

The RYA has recently issued advice to sailors to make them aware of the
danger.

They also pointed out that very few kite surfers will be aware of the Coll
Regs, and even if they are aware, they will want to stay downwind of any
vessels.

There is another valid reason for leaving them downwind. Kite surfers don't
go upwind very easily. If you leave them downwind, then they will have
much more room to manoeuver.

It doesn't really matter which tack you are on.

The RYA have called for the Rules to be clarified in respect of Kite
Surfers.




Regards


Donal
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Oh boy. You did say heading north on a westerly wind... (that's wind
over the PORT rail Donal)

Hhahahahhahahaha. What a mistake!

Cheers MC

Donal wrote:

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
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Bear off.



Wrong! BIG time!

Oz is obviously an expert. Perhaps he can explain why you are completely
wrong!



Regards


Donal
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