Still waiting for a pic of a nice Express 30 interior.

and waiting...
and waiting....
and waiting.....

Could this be it???
http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/5/0/4/1150497_3.jpg
Holy Catalina style, Batman!

RB

Sure looks like a big step up from an early J-Boat What's your point?

And what's the Catalina Style? Half the 30 footers built have the U-shaped galley.
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-jeff

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Still waiting for a pic of a nice Express 30 interior.

and waiting...
and waiting....
and waiting.....

Could this be it???
http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/5/0/4/1150497_3.jpg
Holy Catalina style, Batman!

RB

And what's the Catalina Style? Half the 30 footers built have the U-shaped
galley.

The cheap look of it all, not the layout.

RB

Well if that's what you meant, the J has the cheapest look by far. I remember going on board on and
trying hard not to giggle.

I'm not saying they aren't well made, I've always had a lot of respect for Ev Pearson, but the early
J's had absolutely no pretense of being a comfortable cruising boat.

I've never been on and Express, and I gather neither have you, but from the pics of boats from the
same vintage the Express looks much better suited to cruising than the J.

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-jeff

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
And what's the Catalina Style? Half the 30 footers built have the U-shaped
galley.

The cheap look of it all, not the layout.

RB

Well if that's what you meant, the J has the cheapest look by far. I remember
going on board on and
trying hard not to giggle.

The pic I posted of the J30 interior is pretty much how my friends boats look,
except the 1979, which has been trashed from heavy racing. The others are post
83 boats. The comfort of the interior is very good, though I've not seen one
with those lighter woods (unless that's the pic.
Yes, I was aboard the Express 30 two seasons ago in Manhasset (Capri Yacht
Club). I found the interior small, certainly smaller than Express. Not
surprising since the J goes with a small cockpit to extend the cabin, making up
for it with a semi flush deck idea.
I understand your desire to side with Loco, but don't think for a minute it
will help him with his anger levels. He's been mad as a hatter since I got the
nice C&C and the 34XL will drive him to suicide!

Bwahhahahahahaha!

RB

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...

I understand your desire to side with Loco, but don't think for a minute it
will help him with his anger levels.

I'm only on the side of truth and honesty.

And I'd probably go with a C&C over the Express. Remember, I had a Hinterhoeller built boat for 8
years, and my favorite monohull now is the Bruckman 48. (Bruckman was the other builder in the
C&C group.)

But the question is whether the early J30 is a better cruiser than an Express 30, and you've
presented no convincing evidence thus far.

And I'd probably go with a C&C over the Express.

That does it. I'm trading up to an Express!

RB

But the question is whether the early J30 is a better cruiser than an Express
30, and you've
presented no convincing evidence thus far.

Jeff, OF COURSE IT ISN'T. The J-30 is a fun boat with a reasonable interior,
but there's no place on deck to relax, a way-small cockpit and a motion that is
like being in a laundry dryer in anything but calm conditions. The Express has
a big cockpit and a wheel, along with a good cabin layout. In many respects it
IS a C&C 30 or 32, but with a far more serious bend towards racing. It's
impossible to bash one boat without bashing the other.
Sort of like the Baltic lover bashing Swans, except in a much poorer way!

RB

Boob**** we can all see thru your "comparison" The photo taker when shooting
the Express interior is standing in the middle of the salon using a normal 52mm
lense. The guy shooting the J30 interior was sitting on the floor of the V
berth shooting thru the door using a 28mm wide angle lense and professional
lighting. Whoever shot the C&C interior was an idiot because the thing looks
like some old ladies basement.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Boob**** we can all see thru your "comparison"

Anytime you want to show us your nice interior pics...anytime...
Doesn't matter what you post. Everyone will say it's fine, so why not post a
pic?

Hmmmm?

RB