I knew you'd see it my way.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
And I'd probably go with a C&C over the Express.

That does it. I'm trading up to an Express!

RB

You didn't compare helm station or cockpit in the photos
so no judgement can be rendered.

The C&C 32 has a contoured helm seat, engine controls on the pedestal, 3
cockpit lockers, oversized self tailing winches all around...and so on.
On either side of the raised helm seat is perfect secure seating. The pedestal
is set behind the endboom which is also nice for taller folk. The cockpit is
perfect for 5 people, seven starts to get crowded, but that's so on most any
boat.

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/alienrain.jpg

On this express 30 cockpit, there is a flat and uncomfortable hardky raised
helm seat. There is no aft lazerette as on the 32-Mine holds all canvas, dock
lines and so on. Are there engine controls on the pedestal? In some respects it
looks like a older version of my cockpit with sharp edges. The 32 also has
larger cleats and redundant massive horns aft.
Here's the rather mundane Express 30 cockpit..note the placement of the
traveler--good for racing.

http://www.express30.com/photos/images/DSCN1390.jpg

RB

You're right... it probably is the camera.Want to borrow my Nikon F4 and
equipment? That fisheye of mine will make Alien's cabin look like a
warehouse.... :-P

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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| I'd rate the J30, Express30 and then way behind the C&C .... in that order
| on those shots for inviting, safe, secure quarters.
|
| Mooron, this is a very bad attempt. I'm only alerting you because you're a
dear
| friend.
|
| RB

You didn't have a link for the J30. Seems to me that
comparing winches is probably not a valid comparison
since these are changeable.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You didn't compare helm station or cockpit in the photos
so no judgement can be rendered.

The C&C 32 has a contoured helm seat, engine controls on the pedestal, 3
cockpit lockers, oversized self tailing winches all around...and so on.
On either side of the raised helm seat is perfect secure seating. The
pedestal
is set behind the endboom which is also nice for taller folk. The cockpit
is
perfect for 5 people, seven starts to get crowded, but that's so on most
any
boat.

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/alienrain.jpg

On this express 30 cockpit, there is a flat and uncomfortable hardky
raised
helm seat. There is no aft lazerette as on the 32-Mine holds all canvas,
dock
lines and so on. Are there engine controls on the pedestal? In some
respects it
looks like a older version of my cockpit with sharp edges. The 32 also has
larger cleats and redundant massive horns aft.
Here's the rather mundane Express 30 cockpit..note the placement of the
traveler--good for racing.

http://www.express30.com/photos/images/DSCN1390.jpg

RB

When my wife and I are doing 3hrs on 3hrs off for the five day trip from
Exuma to Tortola, it's nice to sit a while!

The Captains Nemesis wrote:
What's all this thing about sitting down behind the wheel while
sailing?
You guys oughta buy powerboats.

On 27 Oct 2003 21:38:31 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:


You didn't compare helm station or cockpit in the photos
so no judgement can be rendered.

The C&C 32 has a contoured helm seat, engine controls on the pedestal, 3
cockpit lockers, oversized self tailing winches all around...and so on.
On either side of the raised helm seat is perfect secure seating. The pedestal
is set behind the endboom which is also nice for taller folk. The cockpit is
perfect for 5 people, seven starts to get crowded, but that's so on most any
boat.

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/alienrain.jpg

On this express 30 cockpit, there is a flat and uncomfortable hardky raised
helm seat. There is no aft lazerette as on the 32-Mine holds all canvas, dock
lines and so on. Are there engine controls on the pedestal? In some respects it
looks like a older version of my cockpit with sharp edges. The 32 also has
larger cleats and redundant massive horns aft.
Here's the rather mundane Express 30 cockpit..note the placement of the
traveler--good for racing.

http://www.express30.com/photos/images/DSCN1390.jpg

RB




Oz1...of the 3 twins.
Who spends an hour tuning before every race not just when new sails go on
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

On this express 30 cockpit, there is a flat and uncomfortable hardky raised
helm seat. There is no aft lazerette as on the 32-Mine holds all canvas, dock
lines and so on. Are there engine controls on the pedestal?

Not only can't you read but aparently you can't see. Plus I thought you said
you were on a Express.
1. Real sailors sit outboard. Please notice the nicely done angled low
commings. They are level when the boat is heeled. Try sitting on the tall
skinny commings on your boat for any length of time.
2. There are lockers/lazerettes under each seat. There are 2 small aft lockers
one being a properly vented one for a propane tank.
3. Duh, anyone can see the engine controls on the pedestal.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

That fisheye of mine will make Alien's cabin look like a warehouse

Probably true since it looks like a storage shed now.

S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
The Cabin of the Express 30...

http://www.express30.com/photos/images/DSCN1359.jpg

The Cabin of the C&C 32....

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/int23.jpg

The J30 Interior....

http://www.jboats.com/j30/images/j30maincabaft.jpg

What a joke the Express is as a cruiser! And that's the best pic of an
Express
30 interior I can find! Looks like a mid 80's Catalina 27 inside!
Bwahahahaha!

Jeeeze, Bob, The C&C cabin looks dreadful. That starboard side dinette
looks like something that you would find on a 70's 24 footer.


Still, at least you didn't pay very much for it. However, I am surprised
that someone with your good sense of taste would publish such a photo.



Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message

| Still, at least you didn't pay very much for it. However, I am
surprised
| that someone with your good sense of taste would publish such a photo.

It has to be the photography.... you can make the nicest interior look very
plain with substandard equipment , a poor eye and mediocre skills. While I
could go to NYC and take some good shots of Alien for Bob.... he'd have to
hire a professional to make the interior even approach tasteful and well
appointed.

Honestly speaking I believe Simon has displayed better taste with his daring
foray into the realm of the interior design than the bland, stark,
uninspired interior of Alien. It shows Bob's true courage to see him not
only post pictures but compliment his own mundane taste in decor.

After seeing Bob's entertainment room I immediately realized he was no mere
minimalist..... he truly lacked even the slightest comprehension of balance
& colour. Understand that to Bob... function is associated with a remote
control and form is something he sees at the gallery or museum but does not
comprehend.

Let's celebrate his courage and not condemn his lack of good taste.

CM

Let's celebrate his courage and not condemn his lack of good taste.

CM

Oh gag...touchy-feeley just ain't you, mooron.....
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