the J30 cabin is lightyears nicer than the Express,

ROFLOL!

Loco, you ARE lying if you even remotely claim that the Express Cabin is
anything but plain compared to all the teak in the average J30. Let's Compare!

http://www.jboats.com/j30/images/j30maincab.jpg

http://www.jboats.com/j30/images/j30maincabaft.jpg

Feel free to show ANY pic of an Express 30 that can compare to that or the
interior of my C&C 32!

RB

Loco, you ARE lying if you even remotely claim that the Express Cabin is
anything but plain compared to all the teak in the average J30.

Nice try. Only the later J30s had a teak and holly sole. What do you mean by
the J30 has an all teak interior? There's less teak in a J30 vs an Express.
My boat has the optional varnished interior. Only other difference is the J
has all the furniture pushed outwards towards the hull to give the appearance
of more room. The Express has a usefull interior designed for real
passagemaking with storage behind the furniture and a real seaberth.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

The Express has a usefull interior designed for real
passagemaking with storage behind the furniture and a real seaberth.

Imagine You're so crazy that in the face of those pics you'll actually claim
that your boat has a nice interior.
I've posted pics of a nice C&C32 and J30 interior. Funny how there's none for
the Express 30...or the 35 for that matter, which also looks cheap!

RB

I've posted pics of a nice C&C32 and J30 interior. Funny how there's none
for
the Express 30...or the 35 for that matter, which also looks cheap!

You seem to have lots of time to waste. Do an internet search for an Express
interior. You found time to locate a photo of a brand new late model J30
interior that had never been used. I don't have any interior photos. Unlike
you I have better things to do than take self fullfilling pictures of my boat's
interior. I take sailing pictures in the BVIs.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

Do an internet search for an Express
interior. You found time to locate a photo of a brand new late model J30

There is very little online info for the Express boats. Even less in the way of
pictures. These boats have generated little interest.

RB

Any time you deal with RB you need a reality check. J30's have gone "upscale" in the last
few years. We can only speculate on the reasons.

Here's some pics of a J30 from the same era as the Express.
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/0/2/52898702.htm

The Express sure looks good compared to the early J30's!


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Do an internet search for an Express
interior. You found time to locate a photo of a brand new late model J30

There is very little online info for the Express boats. Even less in the way of
pictures. These boats have generated little interest.

RB

Here's some pics of a J30 from the same era as the Express.
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/0/2/52898702.htm

The Express sure looks good compared to the early J30's!

Those J30 pics still look nicer than the Express. I can show you BAD J30
interiors as many of them were sailed hard. Doesn't prove a thing. I'm still
waiting to see ANY Express Interiors that don't look cheap.

RB

Jeff Morris wrote:

Any time you deal with RB you need a reality check. J30's have gone "upscale" in the last
few years. We can only speculate on the reasons.


It does boggle the mind, doesn't it?


Here's some pics of a J30 from the same era as the Express.
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/0/2/52898702.htm

The Express sure looks good compared to the early J30's!

Well, the Express has slightly less elbow room but IMHO a much more practical & comfortable
cabin for cruising.

Actually, if I were seriously shopping for a 30 foot racer/cruiser I would pick the CS-30 (and
in fact almost bought one, before we settled on the tugboat). Its a bit slower but has an
excellent layout above & below decks, strongly built, and is IMHO better looking overall.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Lets look at some other stuff. You say the boat is a better family cruiser.
J30 has a wider beam but mainly at deck level and a narrow waterline beam.
Makes for real fun sailing in a breeze with a wife and kid.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
Trains are a winter sport

SAIL LOCO wrote:

Lets look at some other stuff. You say the boat is a better family cruiser.
J30 has a wider beam but mainly at deck level and a narrow waterline beam.
Makes for real fun sailing in a breeze with a wife and kid.

Loco, why are you arguing with Bubbles? Don't you realize he's nuts?

DSK