The Internet is a dangerous place. It's led me to a '73 Ericson
29. Baring unforseen circumstances, I plan to make a (mostly)
full price offer this coming Saturday. I've called the marina at
Hood River Oregon, and they have plenty of space. All I'll need
to do is find someone to help me sail her home from Portland.

Welcome to the gnarly fray. I hope we contributed to your demise.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Have you much experience? Get charts of the entire area, and ask around for
local information at Portland. It really shouldn't take a lot to go from
Portland to Hood River, the only problem place I see are the Bonneville
locks. I am sure that the attendants would be glad to assist if you were to
explain a few days before hand. I would plan to motorsail, using just the
main, unless the weather were dead calm, then I might hoist a jib just to
get a feel were I bit of a newbie. I would love to help, but I am in
Michigan, That has to be one of the prettiest cruises on Earth, that part of
the Columbia.
"Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam" wrote in message
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The Internet is a dangerous place. It's led me to a '73 Ericson
29. Baring unforseen circumstances, I plan to make a (mostly)
full price offer this coming Saturday. I've called the marina at
Hood River Oregon, and they have plenty of space. All I'll need
to do is find someone to help me sail her home from Portland.

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 04:20:27 GMT, something compelled "The
Carrolls" , to say:

Have you much experience?

I had a San Juan 21 for a few years, and I sailed a Catalina 22 a
few times when I was in the Navy in Long Beach CA. I sailed the
SJ21 on an inland mountain lake in Southern Oregon. The wind
there was generally about fifteen miles per hour and fluky.
Single handed her mostly; I did all right. Entered her into one
race and had the best view in the fleet. Everyone else was in
front.

Get charts of the entire area, and ask around for
local information at Portland. It really shouldn't take a lot to go from
Portland to Hood River, the only problem place I see are the Bonneville
locks. I am sure that the attendants would be glad to assist if you were to
explain a few days before hand.

There are three times during the day when pleasure craft can use
the locks. The Army Corps of Engineers put up a website about
how to use the locks, and it looks pretty simple. If I buy the
boat, I may stop in at Bonneville and ask around.

I would plan to motorsail, using just the
main, unless the weather were dead calm, then I might hoist a jib just to
get a feel were I bit of a newbie.

She has a jib and three genoas. I was figuring on using just the
jib and main until I got the feel of 'er. She also has a
spinnaker, which is a sail I've *never* used, and most certainly
won't this trip.

The wind is mostly dead this time of year anyway. It's very
likely I'll have to use the motor most of the way just because of
that. I'll bring extra gas.

I would love to help, but I am in
Michigan, That has to be one of the prettiest cruises on Earth, that part of
the Columbia.

No doubt. And once over the bar at Astoria (the USCG has its
search and rescue school in Astoria, because it has some of the
most consistently bad conditions anywhere. Crossing the Columbia
River Bar is not for the meek, although if you don't have a bad
case of HUA it can be done safely) you can head north to the San
Juan islands, Vancouver/Victoria, and British Columbia.

Yep. Sucks to be me.

"Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam" wrote in message
.. .


The Internet is a dangerous place. It's led me to a '73 Ericson
29. Baring unforseen circumstances, I plan to make a (mostly)
full price offer this coming Saturday. I've called the marina at
Hood River Oregon, and they have plenty of space. All I'll need
to do is find someone to help me sail her home from Portland.

You have enough experience. you have done a bit of homework also, you will
do fine. Just remember the guy you buy this boat from most likely wasn't
afraid to use it as is, you may find things you dont like about it, but
don't get cought up in fixing things that are actually ok. When I bought my
boat, it was in Grand haven MI , and I live in Monroe, all the way around.
There were things I worried about and adressed that turned out to be time
and money wasted. Just make sure when you fix or replace something it is
something that you should address not just something you want to, save the
want to untill you need to or have time and money later. IMHO Good luck,
Good sailing Wes Carroll
"Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 04:20:27 GMT, something compelled "The
Carrolls" , to say:

Have you much experience?

I had a San Juan 21 for a few years, and I sailed a Catalina 22 a
few times when I was in the Navy in Long Beach CA. I sailed the
SJ21 on an inland mountain lake in Southern Oregon. The wind
there was generally about fifteen miles per hour and fluky.
Single handed her mostly; I did all right. Entered her into one
race and had the best view in the fleet. Everyone else was in
front.

Get charts of the entire area, and ask around for
local information at Portland. It really shouldn't take a lot to go from
Portland to Hood River, the only problem place I see are the Bonneville
locks. I am sure that the attendants would be glad to assist if you were
to
explain a few days before hand.

There are three times during the day when pleasure craft can use
the locks. The Army Corps of Engineers put up a website about
how to use the locks, and it looks pretty simple. If I buy the
boat, I may stop in at Bonneville and ask around.

I would plan to motorsail, using just the
main, unless the weather were dead calm, then I might hoist a jib just to
get a feel were I bit of a newbie.

She has a jib and three genoas. I was figuring on using just the
jib and main until I got the feel of 'er. She also has a
spinnaker, which is a sail I've *never* used, and most certainly
won't this trip.

The wind is mostly dead this time of year anyway. It's very
likely I'll have to use the motor most of the way just because of
that. I'll bring extra gas.

I would love to help, but I am in
Michigan, That has to be one of the prettiest cruises on Earth, that part
of
the Columbia.

No doubt. And once over the bar at Astoria (the USCG has its
search and rescue school in Astoria, because it has some of the
most consistently bad conditions anywhere. Crossing the Columbia
River Bar is not for the meek, although if you don't have a bad
case of HUA it can be done safely) you can head north to the San
Juan islands, Vancouver/Victoria, and British Columbia.

Yep. Sucks to be me.

"Steve Daniels, Seek of Spam" wrote in message
.. .


The Internet is a dangerous place. It's led me to a '73 Ericson
29. Baring unforseen circumstances, I plan to make a (mostly)
full price offer this coming Saturday. I've called the marina at
Hood River Oregon, and they have plenty of space. All I'll need
to do is find someone to help me sail her home from Portland.

but
don't get cought up in fixing things that are actually ok.


Holy crap.

RB

I usually don't make fun of other people's religion, but this does seem a bit bizarre to
me. What kind of worship services do you attend? Do you have a special shrine set aside
for your personal devotions? What in particular attracted you to this rather arcane
veneration?

"Bobsprit" wrote:

Holy crap.

RB

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:00:55 GMT, "The Carrolls"
wrote:

You have enough experience. you have done a bit of homework also, you will
do fine. Just remember the guy you buy this boat from most likely wasn't
afraid to use it as is, you may find things you dont like about it, but
don't get cought up in fixing things that are actually ok. When I bought my
boat, it was in Grand haven MI , and I live in Monroe, all the way around.
There were things I worried about and adressed that turned out to be time
and money wasted. Just make sure when you fix or replace something it is
something that you should address not just something you want to, save the
want to untill you need to or have time and money later. IMHO Good luck,
Good sailing Wes Carroll

I think I know what you mean.

It has a alcohol stove that I'd like to swap out for propane, but I
notice that a lot of people are using alcohol stoves with little to no
difficulty. This boat has gate valves at the thru hulls, and I'd like
to swap those out for quarter twist ball valves, but I'm not going to
do a special haul out just for that.

If I can get her surveyed for a couple of hundred bucks, I think I'll
have that done, if for no other reason than to have a list of things
to work on later. It's being sold by a brokerage, and it looks like
they only list reasonably good quality boats.

Steve,

There's nothing wrong with an alcohol stove. It certainly
is much safer than heavier-than-air, explosive propane.

There's nothing wrong with gate valves either provided
they are not the cheap Chinese variety.

S.Simon - currently using a 13-year-old gate valve at
the galley sink drain. It ain't broke so why
replace it. Have replaced the other gate
valves with ball valves over the years when
they broke.

Also using a Homestrand pressure alcohol
stove that I"m very happy with.

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/index.html


"Steve Daniels" wrote in message ...
It has a alcohol stove that I'd like to swap out for propane, but I
notice that a lot of people are using alcohol stoves with little to no
difficulty. This boat has gate valves at the thru hulls, and I'd like
to swap those out for quarter twist ball valves, but I'm not going to
do a special haul out just for that.

If I can get her surveyed for a couple of hundred bucks, I think I'll
have that done, if for no other reason than to have a list of things
to work on later. It's being sold by a brokerage, and it looks like
they only list reasonably good quality boats.

I would never, ever buy a boat without a survey. No way, no how. And this boat is 30
years old? What will the brokerage do if the day after you buy it you find the deck is
soggy and has to be rebuilt? Will they smile and refund $5000 to do the job? I think
not! Unless you're getting this dirt cheap, I mean a few thousand dollars or less, you
need a survey. Even if the boat passes with no major problems, it will be worth the
several hundred bucks for the education. And the prioritized worklist it will generate
will save you a fortune in the long run.

And when you pick a surveyor, do not accept the one recommended by the broker. Their
purpose in the process is not to protect you, but to facilitate mortgages and insurance.
Find one that won't mind telling you to walk away if the boat isn't up to snuff.


"Steve Daniels" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 09:00:55 GMT, "The Carrolls"
wrote:

You have enough experience. you have done a bit of homework also, you will
do fine. Just remember the guy you buy this boat from most likely wasn't
afraid to use it as is, you may find things you dont like about it, but
don't get cought up in fixing things that are actually ok. When I bought my
boat, it was in Grand haven MI , and I live in Monroe, all the way around.
There were things I worried about and adressed that turned out to be time
and money wasted. Just make sure when you fix or replace something it is
something that you should address not just something you want to, save the
want to untill you need to or have time and money later. IMHO Good luck,
Good sailing Wes Carroll

I think I know what you mean.

It has a alcohol stove that I'd like to swap out for propane, but I
notice that a lot of people are using alcohol stoves with little to no
difficulty. This boat has gate valves at the thru hulls, and I'd like
to swap those out for quarter twist ball valves, but I'm not going to
do a special haul out just for that.

If I can get her surveyed for a couple of hundred bucks, I think I'll
have that done, if for no other reason than to have a list of things
to work on later. It's being sold by a brokerage, and it looks like
they only list reasonably good quality boats.