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Bobsprit September 25th 03 11:14 AM

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Aside from that, since an 8x10 uses
sheet film, one would expect that the shutter mechanism doesn't have an
'expose-once' lock, like you'd find on a 35mm - so what's the point in
messing about with the dark slide? Surely that will be more likely to induce
camera shake than a cable release.

What a terrible ignorant post. The bellows and rig is fixed. You simply close
the shutter for multi exposures. Common stuff if you actually make money taking
pics. Don't guess if you don't know....which you don't.

RB

Bobsprit September 25th 03 11:18 AM

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Then you should have exposed for the gear and eliminated the curtains from
the equation. Ever heard of the zone system? Spot metering?

When you want a lighting scheme intact, you don't expose for the gear. That's
why there's a second shot blown for the gear, dummy.
Spot metering? Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Wally September 25th 03 04:19 PM

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Bobsprit wrote:

When you want a lighting scheme intact, you don't expose for the
gear.


So, it was a picture of the lighting scheme, but with the curtains badly
lit?


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Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.




Wally September 25th 03 04:22 PM

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Bobsprit wrote:
With large format camera, such an 8X10, i'd have made a double
exposure by slipping the sheet..not that you know what that means!


Why would you make a double exposure?

Oh boy. You know nothing about still work. The photo was taken to
show the lighting as is, not the gear, which is clear and bright in
the second photo. Half slides on an 8x10 cassette is standard,
exposing twice, then dodging with the enlarger.


Ah, like a sort of half-frame that yields two 5x8s?


You clearly never learned how a camera works or worked in a darkroom.


I know how a camera works, but haven't used 8x10 (35mm and 6x6cm). As for
working in a darkroom, if you dodge your half frame exposure, you'll get a
fuzzy edge - much better to mask it and get a clean one.


--
Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.




Bobsprit September 25th 03 04:53 PM

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So, it was a picture of the lighting scheme, but with the curtains badly
lit?

The curtains are not lit at all. It's an EL shot.

RB

Bobsprit September 25th 03 04:53 PM

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the second photo. Half slides on an 8x10 cassette is standard,
exposing twice, then dodging with the enlarger.


Ah, like a sort of half-frame that yields two 5x8s?

Good lord, Wally. If you haven't worked with 8x10 gear, it's a bit late for you
to learn.

RB

Wally September 25th 03 04:56 PM

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Bobsprit wrote:
So, it was a picture of the lighting scheme, but with the curtains
badly lit?

The curtains are not lit at all. It's an EL shot.


An 'EL' shot? Don't you mean available light?


--
Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.




Bobsprit September 25th 03 05:05 PM

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The curtains are not lit at all. It's an EL shot.

An 'EL' shot? Don't you mean available light?

Oh my god.
Try Existing Light. Also try "practicals." Wally, stop reading practical
photographer magazine and visit a real studio.

RB

Wally September 25th 03 06:25 PM

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Bobsprit wrote:

Try Existing Light. Also try "practicals." Wally, stop reading
practical photographer magazine and visit a real studio.


Given how unbelievably crap your available/existing light photograph is, it
would seem that you're the Practical Photographer reader. You talk a good
photo, Bob, but you can't produce one.


--
Wally
www.makearatherlonglinkthattakesyounowhere.com
Things are always clearer in the cold, post-upload light.




Bobsprit September 25th 03 06:34 PM

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Looks like "Available Light" is the preferred term. Under this
websight's listing for "Existing Light", it says "see Available Light"

Yup "preferred term" on websites and in magazines.
EL is such a common term that light kit practical gag lights are called Els or
"L's."
Seems like you know about as much about photography as you do about sailing!!!

Bwahahahaha! I can't lose!

RB


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