"Vito" wrote in message

| I used to think I was a biker. After all, that's what people called me.
| I'd been a member of the club they made "the movie" about - the one most
| of the current "gangs" modeled themselves after; I'd broken I dunno how
| many bones racing, done any number of 1000+ mile days, ridden coast to
| coast a dozen times, and til last year averaged 40-50 miles/year in the
| saddle. Then a young woman told me that what one DOES don't count any
| more - in this millenia its how you FEEL that defines who and what you
| are. "Take me" she said "I'm a lesbian. All I ever think about is having
| sex with women - never men just women - and whenever I see a woman I
| want her. Are you as committed to bikes?" Well, no ... "Then you're no
| real biker!" and she flounced off. So you're right. By your criteria I'm
| not a biker cuz I don't study Easy Rider 24/7 to learn how to dress and
| act. According to y'all younger dudes, I must be a lesbian (c:

Vito... you seem to have the hollywood lingo copied fairly accuratly... but
you were never a full patch on any club. Did your strip the Tattoo... once a
member it's a life time commitment.

You're talking through your hat.... fake as a 3 dollar bill.

| YOU prolly would, considering the sheltered life you've enjoyed. snip
gibberish

Think again.... the only thing sheltered is your exposure to real life.
You're making up this crap and it was obvious from the start. I took the
time to slap you down so you wouldn't think your dime store novels reflect
real life ... and that you' ain't as "cool" as you'd like to think you are.
A quick archives search will fill you in as to my experience. I don't need
to threaten with violence because when it's required it's delivered without
the verbal hoopla you've been spouting Bucky!

Take a clue... you are way out of your league when dealing with me. Go back
to impressing yourself in the mirror. At least you might have an audience
that actually believes the crap you try to pass off as "life experience".

BTW - aren't you late for your Pizza Delivery Job?

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Did your strip the Tattoo... once a member it's a life time commitment.

Nope, I still have it - plus a lot of memories and pictures.

The clubs you mistake for motorcycle clubs are mostly movie fan clubs.

You're talking through your hat.... fake as a 3 dollar bill.

More brave yadayadayada from behind a keyboard.

| YOU prolly would, considering the sheltered life you've enjoyed. snip
gibberish

Think again.... the only thing sheltered is your exposure to real life.
You're making up this crap and it was obvious from the start. ...

That's OK kid, believe what you must. I understand that you *must*
believe the reality I show you doesn't exist because it threatens the
house of cards your self esteem is built on. You're certain I'm spoofing
you cuz you have friends who get costumed up and act like Easy Rider
tells them too and I'm not like them. I don't even act like Marlon
Brando of Fonda's kid - you know Janes little brother. Ergo, I must not
be a biker. Oh well ...

Take a clue... you are way out of your league when dealing with me.

Say, weren't you were one of the "leather boys" old Salty the Pagan used
to bring to church on a dog chain! If so I'm definitely not in *your*
league ...

"Vito" wrote in message
| Nope, I still have it - plus a lot of memories and pictures.

Doubt it ... you stated you "were" a member... if you're not active you
don't wear the tattoo. Better brush up on the facts there striker.... you
were never a full patch of anything.

| The clubs you mistake for motorcycle clubs are mostly movie fan clubs.

You're an idiot.

| More brave yadayadayada from behind a keyboard.

.....this seems to be an exercise in self description on your part. Like what
would you do if you met me face to face??? ... tell me how you're a
"councilor"... Bwahahahahahahahhaaaa
I don't need to address a person on their level of bravado.... I know their
bravado dissipates when in contact with my mere presence. Just like your
viewpoints when subject to my interrogation


| That's OK kid, believe what you must. I understand that you *must*
| believe the reality I show you doesn't exist because it threatens the
| house of cards your self esteem is built on.

Woooooooo..... talk about basing an argument on assumptions.


You're certain I'm spoofing
| you cuz you have friends who get costumed up and act like Easy Rider
| tells them too and I'm not like them. I don't even act like Marlon
| Brando of Fonda's kid - you know Janes little brother. Ergo, I must not
| be a biker. Oh well ...


I'm certain you're not who or what you claim to be... nor have you
experienced what you claim to have. You're doing a Bosprit... but at least
he has actual if not limited experience to speak from. Tell me again about
the Sioux Braves and the mirrors.... Bwahahahahahahahahaaa!!

| Say, weren't you were one of the "leather boys" old Salty the Pagan used
| to bring to church on a dog chain! If so I'm definitely not in *your*
| league ...

When I wear leather... it's sealskin and Caribou. It's for a purpose. It has
nothing to do with imitation. It has less to do with intimidation. You're
another knockoff Yank wanna be..... you'll never make the grade and when it
comes down to survival.... you can't touch me. I've got a PHD in Bush Tacka
and BA in street smarts.

I can tell you're accustomed to not making the grade..... real warriors
carry themselves much better. People with confidence don't need to rely on
some fantasy of having bedded someone's future wife in a lineup to feel
superior. It's even more amazing how you'll repeatedly place yourself in a
position to be reminded of your failings as a human being .... let alone a
man. Sounds like you have issues.....

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

Doubt it ... you stated you "were" a member... if you're not active you
don't wear the tattoo. Better brush up on the facts there striker.... you
were never a full patch of anything.

Let me enlighten you. The big news rags like Time and Life got fat
reporting WW2 but the war was over and reporters were getting sacked for
lack of news to report. So they created it. When AMA held a Gypsy Tour
in Hollister, Ca (1947) the rags media called it a riot, blaming the
most prominent club there. Then Hollywood made a movie about it and 100s
of young men set out to *act* like Brando. These *fans* made the rules
you keep blowing about based on Hollywood fantasies. Don't believe me,
go read Sonny's own book about the Oakland crew. The bright spot was Lee
Marvin - he actually worked with Wino to develop his character.

OTOH you're right. I never joined a fan club. I deeply respect some for
having created a "reality" of their own, much like the NFL and NASCAR
have done, but always thot their enforced conformity odd for guys who
talk about freedom and I have zero respect for the yuppies who co-opted
that reality.

I was instead fortunate enough to be accepted by the original "Hollister
Wreacking Crew" and still have my tat and rags. Don't believe it? Hey,
some dudes think god's son was named Jesus instead of Hurcules. I could
care less.

I don't need to address a person on their level of bravado.... I know their
bravado dissipates when in contact with my mere presence.

Thanks! That's the best joke I've heard all day. I can see you now,
posing with other ducks, brave because you're protected by the law.

Danny thot the same way til he met Franky. Nutle used to bully nerds out
of their lunch money til somebody threw him under a car. The 280#
Canadian soccer star hired to teach shop really was intimidating cuz he
could whip any three of us - but when some homies kicked him into a coma
and left him for dead he fled back to Canada where a duck can safely
posture.

I'm certain you're not who or what you claim to be...

That's because your sheltered existence has always protected you from my
reality but if (when) you ever meet that reality you'll **** your pants
just like the soccer jock did. Meanwhile, you're brave and feisty -
certain things like that never happen.

Tell me again about the Sioux Braves and the mirrors....

Inspect ceremonial garb in a museum some time. Some have mirrors sewn
into them, others had them tied on. That's why mirrors were such good
trade goods. The reasons are too esoteric for anyone with your cultural
background to understand. Did you know that Julius Ceasar was
omnisexual?

| Say, weren't you were one of the "leather boys" old Salty the Pagan used
| to bring to church on a dog chain!

When I wear leather... it's sealskin and Caribou.

It was you!!! Sealskin panties, Caribou muff (c: .... ever a kid,
playing games in nice safe woods and ponds, safe because the government
shields you from the real world - you hope.

You're another knockoff Yank wanna be..... you'll never make the grade and when it
comes down to survival....

Jeeze, just when I thot you couldn't get any sillier. What have you
survived? Camping in the park? Sailing? Hanging with outlaw yuppies?
Gimme a break, my old busted ribs are hurting ...

I've got a PHD in Bush Tacka and BA in street smarts.

That's Ph.D. and your idea of street smarts is being able to find the
disco. Ever set anybody on fire? Wearing pants so low your crack showed
was in style in '55. Pouring a little gas down one and flicking your bic
created quite a spectacle in a crowded hall but the victim always
survives. I can imagine you in your 'bou hide doing the Compton chicken
dance then bragging about survival.

... real warriors carry themselves much better.

I've had the good fortune to work with one of the original SEALs and the
Teams out of Little Creek did woodland training at AP Hill just down the
road. They didn't need to "carry themselves" any particular way. You
must mean disco ducks or RCMP officers.

People with confidence ...

.... usually led sheltered lives. Like Danny. He'd been in lots of
"fights" wherein you push some smaller kid and if he pushes you back
somebody breaks it up and he gets in trouble. When you grow up you run
off at the mouth in a country known for pacifists, "confident" your
victim won't bust your face cuz you both know he'll go to the can if he
does. Such reinforcement makes you confident but deep inside you know
your bravado is ready to take a crap at the slightest threat - like
having to admit that your women have enjoyed other men more than they
enjoy you. That's the real reason you're so riled up by my little story
- it threatens your self esteem because you suspect it's about someone
just like you ... and you're prolly right.

Yes, I lack your naive confidence. I've seen "confident" bullies like
you get up in the wrong face and step back with a knife in their gut, or
get shot dead for insulting a woman, so I tend to be humble. A frat boy
who **** on Wino died of some mysterious lung disease as tho he'd been
breathing asbestos dust and guess what: the same folks who did him and
never faced arrest could do you or me just as easily. So I try to watch
my mouth and avoid personal attacks.

don't need to rely on some fantasy of having bedded someone's future wife in a lineup to feel
superior.

You really otta work on that hangup. Why would something half the dudes
on this NG have done make anybody feel superior? Didn't *any* of the
ladies you've known go on to get married and have kids, or do you make
women frigid/gay? What makes my story funny is that the groom, in his
hubris thot otherwise. That's the joke. Get it yet? No? Then you'll not
like Chaucer either.

"Vito" wrote in message
| Let me enlighten you. The big news rags like Time and Life got fat
| reporting WW2 but the war was over and reporters were getting sacked for
| lack of news to report. So they created it. When AMA held a Gypsy Tour
| in Hollister, Ca (1947) the rags media called it a riot, blaming the
| most prominent club there. Then Hollywood made a movie about it and 100s
| of young men set out to *act* like Brando. These *fans* made the rules
| you keep blowing about based on Hollywood fantasies. Don't believe me,
| go read Sonny's own book about the Oakland crew. The bright spot was Lee
| Marvin - he actually worked with Wino to develop his character.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaaa!!!!

|
| OTOH you're right. I never joined a fan club. I deeply respect some for
| having created a "reality" of their own, much like the NFL and NASCAR
| have done, but always thot their enforced conformity odd for guys who
| talk about freedom and I have zero respect for the yuppies who co-opted
| that reality.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

|
| I was instead fortunate enough to be accepted by the original "Hollister
| Wreacking Crew" and still have my tat and rags. Don't believe it? Hey,
| some dudes think god's son was named Jesus instead of Hurcules. I could
| care less.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaa

| Thanks! That's the best joke I've heard all day. I can see you now,
| posing with other ducks, brave because you're protected by the law.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaa

| Danny thot the same way til he met Franky. Nutle used to bully nerds out
| of their lunch money til somebody threw him under a car. The 280#
| Canadian soccer star hired to teach shop really was intimidating cuz he
| could whip any three of us - but when some homies kicked him into a coma
| and left him for dead he fled back to Canada where a duck can safely
| posture.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaa


|
| That's because your sheltered existence has always protected you from my
| reality but if (when) you ever meet that reality you'll **** your pants
| just like the soccer jock did. Meanwhile, you're brave and feisty -
| certain things like that never happen.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaa

| Inspect ceremonial garb in a museum some time. Some have mirrors sewn
| into them, others had them tied on. That's why mirrors were such good
| trade goods. The reasons are too esoteric for anyone with your cultural
| background to understand. Did you know that Julius Ceasar was
| omnisexual?

Oh Yeah... they had mirrors for centuries... they learned to grind it
themselves from plastic ice... Bwahahahahahahahaha

| It was you!!! Sealskin panties, Caribou muff (c: .... ever a kid,
| playing games in nice safe woods and ponds, safe because the government
| shields you from the real world - you hope.

You better not plan on walkin' with home tanned sealskin shorts...
Bwahahahahahahahahahaaa

| Jeeze, just when I thot you couldn't get any sillier. What have you
| survived? Camping in the park? Sailing? Hanging with outlaw yuppies?
| Gimme a break, my old busted ribs are hurting ...

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahhaaa

| That's Ph.D. and your idea of street smarts is being able to find the
| disco. Ever set anybody on fire? Wearing pants so low your crack showed
| was in style in '55. Pouring a little gas down one and flicking your bic
| created quite a spectacle in a crowded hall but the victim always
| survives. I can imagine you in your 'bou hide doing the Compton chicken
| dance then bragging about survival.

I got so confused at the tribal cerimony... I'm certain they said srew a
grizzly and wrestle a squaw!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaaa


| I've had the good fortune to work with one of the original SEALs and the
| Teams out of Little Creek did woodland training at AP Hill just down the
| road. They didn't need to "carry themselves" any particular way. You
| must mean disco ducks or RCMP officers.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaaa

| ... usually led sheltered lives. Like Danny. He'd been in lots of
| "fights" wherein you push some smaller kid and if he pushes you back
| somebody breaks it up and he gets in trouble. When you grow up you run
| off at the mouth in a country known for pacifists, "confident" your
| victim won't bust your face cuz you both know he'll go to the can if he
| does. Such reinforcement makes you confident but deep inside you know
| your bravado is ready to take a crap at the slightest threat - like
| having to admit that your women have enjoyed other men more than they
| enjoy you. That's the real reason you're so riled up by my little story
| - it threatens your self esteem because you suspect it's about someone
| just like you ... and you're prolly right.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaaa

|
| Yes, I lack your naive confidence. I've seen "confident" bullies like
| you get up in the wrong face and step back with a knife in their gut, or
| get shot dead for insulting a woman, so I tend to be humble. A frat boy
| who **** on Wino died of some mysterious lung disease as tho he'd been
| breathing asbestos dust and guess what: the same folks who did him and
| never faced arrest could do you or me just as easily. So I try to watch
| my mouth and avoid personal attacks.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaa

| You really otta work on that hangup. Why would something half the dudes
| on this NG have done make anybody feel superior? Didn't *any* of the
| ladies you've known go on to get married and have kids, or do you make
| women frigid/gay? What makes my story funny is that the groom, in his
| hubris thot otherwise. That's the joke. Get it yet? No? Then you'll not
| like Chaucer either.

The joke's on you... get it??? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaa

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote:

"Vito" wrote
| .... Then you'll not like Chaucer either.

The joke's on you... get it??? Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaa


Naw, the joke was on the carpenter ....