Let's face it. If Bob actually did do the trip, then he wasn't the
skipper.

You're right! Suzanne handled most of the Nav stuff. I had the GPS in my pocket
and steered like a bus driver. She pointed right and left and I followed.
Seems to work!

RB

That's not good -1 mile off with GPS aids is really poor. Your DR needs
work.

Cheers MC

Bobsprit wrote:

Observing the track set on the GPS, sailing on a reach, with 1.5-2.5 knots of
current against, we only deviated from our track by about a mile.

A cross track error of 1 mile can lead to unexpected rocks -unless you
know from the chart all; is well. Of course you are also sailing further...

Cheers MC

Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Excellent... you determined both set & drift as well?? That's not easy on
a
| current that appears to average at over 2 knots at times.
|
| Observing the track set on the GPS, sailing on a reach, with 1.5-2.5 knots
of
| current against, we only deviated from our track by about a mile. Once 20
miles
| of the return trip were under the keel we could see the Manhattan skyline
and
| it became a line-of-site sail, though i maintained a specific (245 If I
| remember right) SW compass heading anyway.

So I take it that you only used the GPS on occasion to verify your chart
plot and rightly considered a cross track [drift] error of one mile in 20 as
not worth concern as long as you knew where you would be on arrival to
corrected waypoint?

Excellent Bob... this is what I was hoping to gently persuade you to discuss
in the first place.

I often find myself too lazy to tweak and set trim to compensate for this as
well... especially when I have dinner in the oven and the heel is perfect
for cooking while underway. Good Show!

CM

I hera what you say but if ever there is an accident you will wish you
had a log.

Cheers MC

Thom Stewart wrote:

How many hours of contrary current,etc other bull ****


Who the hell cares? Is each time a pleasure sail is made is it really
necessary to log every fart, every tack made, every change in wind
speed, every tide change?

I don't do that kind of log keeping. I'm wondering just how many of this
group really makes a log entry and completion of every afternoons sail
around the Bay? I DON'T. I don't really keep a running log of a simple
overnite in my immediate sailing area. I enjoy sailing! I hate paper
work! Keeping a running log is dumb paper work. If you like doing it,
then by all means do it. I think of all the millions of useless logs
recorded on private recreational boats is something that is over done.

I'm not a good log keeper. My log has more entries this season with less
sailing than I can ever remember. I logged the date of the new bottom,
the new main and the changes made because of it. Even at that I'm not
sure I haven't over done it? My filed copies of the paid bills are more
necessary than the log.

You pencil pushers enjoy your log duties. Don't expect to see a history
of each sail I've taken. You won't find it.

Right or wrong, that's the thrufffff and:

"I'll Drink to That!"

Ole Thom
P/S I'm heading for the Boat right now. Have a lot of catching up to do;
Wind is calm (below 5 knots)
Weather Forcast Rain
Distination (?)
Point of Departure Squilcum Harbor, Bellingham, Washington
Estimated time of Voyage (?)
Time of departure About a half an hour from now (1000 o:clock)
Completion When I'm ready
Crew list "Jazz" my dog

So there

Exactly -and a legal responsibility of the master...

Cheers MC

Capt. Mooron wrote:

Keep a log of every trip...
it is a valuable resource for future excursions and illustrates a respect
and proficiency in the art of sail and seamanship.

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

| I'm VERY sensitive.

I suggest you keep that in check..... or drastically alter your online
persona.

To make matters worse, few people believe that I saw a
| severed (and rotting) human head floating during the trip. I'm 75% sure of
what
| I saw.

It wouldn't surprise me at all.... but consider that the density of a human
head and the lack of soft tissue it's not ideally suited to be the first
part of a cadaver to rise after deterioration and bloating. Granted the
sinus and cranial cavity could have had sufficient trapped air. It's not out
of the realm of possibility and I haven't seen any post that indicated
ridicule on this group.

What did Suzanne have to say regarding this... she would have a better
understanding of anatomical properties. Failing that make an inquiry with
the local Coroner's Office. They should be able to clarify if such a thing
was in the realm of probability and it may even be of interest to them.

CM

What did Suzanne have to say regarding this... she would have a better
understanding of anatomical properties. Failing that make an inquiry with
the local Coroner's Office. They should be able to clarify if such a thing
was in the realm of probability and it may even be of interest to them.

The top of the skull was just below the surface most of the time. I could make
out the tattered neck tissue below. The face was mostly bloated, but appeared
femail. Suzanne is not skittish about such things and was ****ed that we could
not recover it.

RB

| I'm VERY sensitive.

I suggest you keep that in check..... or drastically alter your online
persona.

Nah, more fun the way it is!

RB

A cross track error of 1 mile can lead to unexpected rocks -unless you
know from the chart all; is well. Of course you are also sailing further..

NOT where we were sailing with miles of good water on either side of us. The
deviation did not go unoticed, nor did it effect our TOA.

RB

"The Captains Master" wrote in message

| I guess you had to be there!

Yes you great big baby.... that's why I'm asking! ;-)

CM