"The Captains Master" wrote in message

| Ummm Mooron, the "predeparture checklist" as you call it detailing
| your crew, water and fuel is your log!

Wow Oz.... my pre-Departure Checklist involves crew to sign on the Log, and
then a fixed sheet that is checked off You know.. the basics valves, oil,
water, fuel, filed sail plan, etc.

|
| The "checklist" is something you use to go shopping.

I think that's a Shopping List....

|
| Must be your withdrawal....got the DT's yet?

Nah... I got some Shake from a friend... it's mild but it does have a nice
mellow high.
I often stop drinking for months... like when I'm working I don't drink or
smoke drugs. It's never seemed to be a problem. I don't miss it at all when
it's not around. Is it a problem for you Oz???

CM

Seriously doubt you know the difference between a "Rough Log", "Smooth
Log", and "Official Log".

otn

Simple Simon wrote:
Professional Captains often keep two logs. One for the
authorities and one for themselves. The one for the authorities
is keep short, concise and often does not reflect real life.

For example, Shen44 or otnmbrd will, in restricted visibility,
enter into the log something like, "Slowed down to a safe speed
as required by the Rules due to thick fog," while in fact they
slowed down for about five minutes to pump the oil from
the bilges and to toss illegal garbage overboard and then
went back to full cruising speed.

Since a ships log is considered a legal document they NEVER
put any incriminating information in the 'official' log. Truck
drivers do this all the time, as well. DOT, like the Coast Guard,
can and will use a log against you.

S.Simon
(Master Mariner)


"otnmbrd" wrote in message ink.net...

There are "Logs" and then there are "Logs". If you want to avoid
creating a single monster, you may want to create some separate logs to
cover certain areas .... crew list, equipment checks and maintenance
records, route plans with dates, etc., and keep your voyage log for nav
points, weather, course changes, watch changes, courses and speeds,
compass corrections, distances traveled.

otn

The Captains Master wrote:


Seeing as how there has been so much discussion about logs, and after
reading Donals poor example,I thought it might be a good idea to
discuss what information should be entered in this official and in
some cases legally bound document.

I'll start!

A crew list.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Bwaahahahahhahahahahaha! I know more than you might
think I do. I certainly know enough to realize you guys
operate in a quasi-legal mode 100% of the time. This is
why you and your ilk represent a danger to all mariners
including yourselves.

You scofflaws attempt to give the impression that you're
professionals but nothing could be further from the truth.
You're a bunch of arrogant buffoons and liars who
represent the very worst of humanity. You can't even get
a job ashore so you, like a good deal of other criminal rabble,
take the only job you can get - as chief flunky aboard some
derelict freighter. That's why you hate the fact that decent,
law-abiding, sailors like myself who know the Rules and
recognize the abuses you so-called professionals perpetrate
to make a mockery out of them can easily point out your
abuses. I'm not one of the 'club'. I 've enough pride in
myself to never lower myself to your status. The day I take
money to abuse the law and my profession is the day I'll
put a gun to my headd. I'm one of the few mariners who
takes operating a vessel seriously and as such remain a
serious threat to any and all scofflaws.

S.Simon
Master Mariner

"otnmbrd" wrote in message nk.net...
Seriously doubt you know the difference between a "Rough Log", "Smooth
Log", and "Official Log".

otn

Simple Simon wrote:
Professional Captains often keep two logs. One for the
authorities and one for themselves. The one for the authorities
is keep short, concise and often does not reflect real life.

For example, Shen44 or otnmbrd will, in restricted visibility,
enter into the log something like, "Slowed down to a safe speed
as required by the Rules due to thick fog," while in fact they
slowed down for about five minutes to pump the oil from
the bilges and to toss illegal garbage overboard and then
went back to full cruising speed.

Since a ships log is considered a legal document they NEVER
put any incriminating information in the 'official' log. Truck
drivers do this all the time, as well. DOT, like the Coast Guard,
can and will use a log against you.

S.Simon
(Master Mariner)


"otnmbrd" wrote in message ink.net...

There are "Logs" and then there are "Logs". If you want to avoid
creating a single monster, you may want to create some separate logs to
cover certain areas .... crew list, equipment checks and maintenance
records, route plans with dates, etc., and keep your voyage log for nav
points, weather, course changes, watch changes, courses and speeds,
compass corrections, distances traveled.

otn

The Captains Master wrote:


Seeing as how there has been so much discussion about logs, and after
reading Donals poor example,I thought it might be a good idea to
discuss what information should be entered in this official and in
some cases legally bound document.

I'll start!

A crew list.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Bwaahahahahhahahahahaha! I know more than you might
think I do.

That little, eh?

RB

ROFLMAO In other words, as expected, you DON'T know the difference.

otn

Simple Simon wrote:
Bwaahahahahhahahahahaha! I know more than you might
think I do. I certainly know enough to realize you guys
operate in a quasi-legal mode 100% of the time. This is
why you and your ilk represent a danger to all mariners
including yourselves.

You scofflaws attempt to give the impression that you're
professionals but nothing could be further from the truth.
You're a bunch of arrogant buffoons and liars who
represent the very worst of humanity. You can't even get
a job ashore so you, like a good deal of other criminal rabble,
take the only job you can get - as chief flunky aboard some
derelict freighter. That's why you hate the fact that decent,
law-abiding, sailors like myself who know the Rules and
recognize the abuses you so-called professionals perpetrate
to make a mockery out of them can easily point out your
abuses. I'm not one of the 'club'. I 've enough pride in
myself to never lower myself to your status. The day I take
money to abuse the law and my profession is the day I'll
put a gun to my headd. I'm one of the few mariners who
takes operating a vessel seriously and as such remain a
serious threat to any and all scofflaws.

S.Simon
Master Mariner

"otnmbrd" wrote in message nk.net...

Seriously doubt you know the difference between a "Rough Log", "Smooth
Log", and "Official Log".

otn

No. You're just stupid.

Quantity of Liquor = 10 cases of beer
Quality of Liquor = high


On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 21:30:04 +0000, Horvath wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:50:49 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Quantity and quality of liquor on board.

Now that's just silly. The list would fill up the whole page.




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

otnmbrd wrote in
nk.net:

Seriously doubt you know the difference between a "Rough Log", "Smooth
Log", and "Official Log".


Yeah, the first is peanuts, the second from Cheese and the third is the
floater (can't be flushed 0

Bertie

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:35:53 -0700, Jonathan Ganz
wrote this crap:

No. You're just stupid.

Quantity of Liquor = 10 cases of beer
Quality of Liquor = high

What about the rum? wine? vodka? tequilla? whiskey? scotch? gin?
slivovitz? bikaver? brandy? schnapps?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

Ok, I give up. You're right.

How about liquor = lots, good?

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:30:02 +0000, Horvath wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:35:53 -0700, Jonathan Ganz
wrote this crap:

No. You're just stupid.

Quantity of Liquor = 10 cases of beer
Quality of Liquor = high

What about the rum? wine? vodka? tequilla? whiskey? scotch? gin?
slivovitz? bikaver? brandy? schnapps?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 20:20:09 -0700, Jonathan Ganz
wrote this crap:

Ok, I give up. You're right.

And don't *ever* forget it.


How about liquor = lots, good?

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 01:30:02 +0000, Horvath wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 15:35:53 -0700, Jonathan Ganz
wrote this crap:

No. You're just stupid.

Quantity of Liquor = 10 cases of beer
Quality of Liquor = high

What about the rum? wine? vodka? tequilla? whiskey? scotch? gin?
slivovitz? bikaver? brandy? schnapps?





Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Years!