I have yet to find Doug posting incorrect scientific/technical matter. Most
people have a very poor understanding of how the world works at a engineering
level.
Before I became a programmer I spent 8 yrs courtesy of Uncle Sam on a variety of
vessels as a Machinist Mate/Engine Room Supervisor (engine room/steam
turbine/pump operator/maintenance tech), Mechanical Systems Operator (through
nuclear reactors and their support systems into the mix) and Lead Engineering
Laboratory Tech (water chemistry and radiological controls added)

I then spent 20 years doing similar things at a variety of commercial power
plants. One of the most dangerous things there was an engineer with a little
experience. They were convinced that they knew all the answers and constantly
misapplied the theory they learned in school. Older engineers generally had
such nonsense knocked out of them (unless they were bucking for management in
which case they always maintained the world had to match their beliefs because
otherwise they wouldn't get their promotion).

Heat transfer, fluid flow, and thermodynamics as applied to large
generation/industrial installations is a very, very complex subject. And many
times the most subtle and obscure principles have significant effects that are
surprising to those who work outside the field.

JJ

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:59:42 -0400, DSK wrote:



What kind of boat do you sail, again?

Vito wrote:
Catalina 30

Good, at least some tiny bit of your post makes sense & is on topic.


Vito wrote:
Which means that electric cars make more pollution, they just do it out
of town.

No, electric cars cause less pollution overall because even the dirtiest
fossil fuel electric generating plant is cleaner than car exhaust.

You said to tell you when you were wrong, here's one more... getting to be a
pretty long list, eh? Challenging the Crapton's batting average?

DSK


James Johnson
remove the "dot" from after sail in email address to reply

" . . . I went with a heavy heart to one more watchmaker, and looked on
while he took her to pieces. Then I prepared to cross-question him rigidly,
for this thing was getting serious. The watch had cost two hundred dollars
originally, and I seemed to have paid out two or three thousand for repairs.
While I waited and looked on I presently recognized in this watchmaker an
old acquaintance -- a steamboat engineer of other days, and not a good
engineer, either. He examined all the parts carefully, just as the other
watchmakers had done, and then delivered his verdict with the same
confidence of manner. He said: "She makes too much steam -- you want to hang
the monkey-wrench on the safety valve!" I brained him on the spot, and had
him buried at my own expense.
My uncle William (now deceased, alas!) used to say that a good horse
was a good horse until it had run away once, and that a good watch was a
good watch until the repairers got a chance at it. And he used to wonder
what became of all the unsuccessful tinkerers, and gunsmiths, and
shoemakers, and engineers, and blacksmiths; but nobody could ever tell him."

from Mark Twain's "My Watch, An Instructive Little Tale"

Scout


"James Johnson" wrote
One of the most dangerous things there was an engineer with a little
experience.

"James Johnson" wrote in message
...
I have yet to find Doug posting incorrect scientific/technical matter.


I agree.



Regards


Donal
--

So what is the pollution per MW for a car comapred to the dirtiest power
station? Pray tell!

Cheers MC

DSK wrote:


No, electric cars cause less pollution overall because even the dirtiest
fossil fuel electric generating plant is cleaner than car exhaust.

You said to tell you when you were wrong, here's one more... getting to be a
pretty long list, eh? Challenging the Crapton's batting average?

James Johnson wrote:

I have yet to find Doug posting incorrect scientific/technical matter.

Agreed ...


...One of the most dangerous things there was an engineer with a little experience.

A specialist (engineer or garbage man for that matter) who myoptically
ignores the whole system in order to concentrate on the one part he
specializes in is at least as dangerous. Electric cars' economic failure
has little to do with generating electricity and everything to do with
their inconvenience and the inefficiency of getting that electricity to
the cars, storing it therein, then using it to move people and
groceries. Unhampered by expertise, and the myopia it causes, onsumers
instinctively know this and vote with their $$$ accordingly.

lol at this thread

democrats are sweeping the republican scum out of power and it feels SOOOOOOOOO GOOD!!!