You can't change internal combustion engines with
something not invented yet. Gore is an idiot and
a fool and that is why you liberals love him. Eliminate
internal combustion engines leaves electric engines.
Electric engines need to have batteries charged from
the grid. The grid burns fossil fuel to produce electricity.
(Hydrogen engines are also internal combustion). Steam
engines are external combustion engines; maybe
Gore wants to go back to steam power. Yes, sir,
stoke them with his precious trees. What an IDIOT!

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Sorry, Booby, he did and you lose.

"On pages 325-6, I wrote, "It ought to be possible to establish a coordinated
global program to accomplish the strategic goal of
completely eliminating the internal combustion engine over,

Changing engine technology eliminates cars???!!!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

You can't change internal combustion engines with
something not invented yet.

Can someone please invent a car that can drive all day on batteries, which can
be swapped at "gas" stations and...
Oh...really? They have? Years ago?

bwahahahaha!

RB

You missed the point, mush for brains! When you
charge those batteries you plug in the charger which
gets electricity from the grid. Electricity from the grid
is produced primarily from fossil fuels.

Why indirectly burn fossil fuels and claim you are
doing something worthwhile? Only an ignorant liberal
never bothers to think of these things.

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
You can't change internal combustion engines with
something not invented yet.

Can someone please invent a car that can drive all day on batteries, which can
be swapped at "gas" stations and...
Oh...really? They have? Years ago?

bwahahahaha!

RB

I thought that's what you were advocating... sounding an awful
lot like a liberal to me!

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
It wasn't any church that was concerned about Gore
becoming president; it was the business interests.

Gore wanted to do away with automobiles, for one
thing. ("Earth in the Balance" - read it you uninformed
jerk!) Can you imagine what doing away with automobiles
would do to the economy? Gore would have willingly
destroyed the economy and peoples standard of living
just to save a few trees and to forestall global warming
which is not even proven to be going on.

That's liberalism at its very worse.




"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Gore was just another Clinton liberal. That's why
he lost.

Clearly you know nothing of Gore, who lived a far more conservative life
than
Bush. Gore was a dem the republicans could have loved, even of church
hated
him.

RB

Where have you been Ganz? Ms. Feinstein cannot get
into the recall race. It's too late to register. Duh!


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
going to happen. If Feinstein gets in the race, she'll
win, since she's so popular here. I guess that's ok, but
I'd rather have her stay in the Senate.

And, what about all the acid in those batteries and
the lead? Huh? Huh?

Good lord. Lead? Acid? A little behind the times, eh Neal.
Given your pathetic grasp of current technology, I'm not surprised that you
thought Gore wanted to eliminate cars.

RB

You are the one who is wrong. Scrubbers only take out
sulphur from coal. The exhaust of today's auto is cleaner
than the exhaust stacks of coal fired electricity plants by
far. Natural gas might be a little cleaner than gasoline but
not by far. Carbon dioxide is carbon dioxide and even
alcohol when burned produces carbon dioxide and water.

Autos have catalytic converters to control other pollutants
and power plants do not.

The main emissions of a car engine a

a.. Nitrogen gas (N2) - Air is 78-percent nitrogen gas, and most of this passes right through the car engine.
b.. Carbon dioxide (CO2) - This is one product of combustion. The carbon in the fuel bonds with the oxygen in the air.
c.. Water vapor (H2O) - This is another product of combustion. The hydrogen in the fuel bonds with the oxygen in the air.
These emissions are mostly benign (although carbon dioxide emissions are believed to contribute to global warming). But because the combustion process is never perfect, some smaller amounts of more harmful emissions are also produced in car engines:
a.. Carbon monoxide (CO) - a poisonous gas that is colorless and odorless
b.. Hydrocarbons or volatile organic compounds (VOCs) - produced mostly from unburned fuel that evaporates
Sunlight breaks these down to form oxidants, which react with oxides of nitrogen to cause ground level ozone (O3), a major component of smog.


c.. Nitrogen oxides (NO and NO2, together called NOx) - contributes to smog and acid rain, and also causes irritation to human mucus membranes
These are the three main regulated emissions, and also the ones that catalytic converters are designed to reduce.

Cars are cleaner than power plants (excepting nuclear and hydroelectric that is)
and that's a fact. Cars don't cause acid rain power plants do. Lord you are
one stupid and brainwashed liberal.

S.Simon


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
Not true. Automobiles have cleaner exhaust by far
than power plants which just run it up higher in the
atmosphere through giant stacks.

100% false, Neal. Power plants release cleaner byproducts by far via their
scrubbers than any auto. They're also thousands of times more efficient
compared to how a gas powered car produces energy via combustion. You're so
uneducated on this, it's really sad.

RB

The exhaust of today's auto is cleaner
than the exhaust stacks of coal fired electricity plants by
far. Natural gas might be a little cleaner than gasoline but
not by far. Carbon dioxide is carbon dioxide and even
alcohol when burned produces carbon dioxide and water.

Ohhhhh! So this means George Bush was wrong when he said full implementation of
electric cars in the future will reduce auto related polution drastically.
I see!!!

Bwahahahaha! I lead him to the water and he drank!

Capt RB

He did not
say existing auto emissions were greater than
electrical power plants that burn coal and gas.

Yes, he did. He and gore actually agreed on it, but not the timetable.
You're busted again!

RB

Prove it! Let's see a link with a quote, please.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
He did not
say existing auto emissions were greater than
electrical power plants that burn coal and gas.

Yes, he did. He and gore actually agreed on it, but not the timetable.
You're busted again!

RB