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Madam Vinyl wrote:

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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 04:16:13 GMT, "Madam Vinyl"
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:39:04 GMT, "Madam Vinyl"
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Is "chunder" like where you make a complete ass of yourself on
usenet?

You are the authority on this kind of stuff, what do you say?

Yes, I've seen you chundering along for a few years now!


Jerry

Say goodnight, Jerry....

Go **** yourself, stupid ****.

Heheee. I wouldn't have expected any less from you, Jerry.

Why do you continue to torment your opponent when he's clearly
dead?
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Madam Vinyl wrote:

"JL Grasso" wrote in message
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Is "chunder" like where you make a complete ass of yourself on usenet?

You are the authority on this kind of stuff, what do you say?

Ahhh Madam Vinyl! Killing with the point is _so_ much more
elegant than slashing with the blade.

Excuse me! Let me tell you, Jerry's not a stranger....we go back almost 5
years. My shoes are available for walking in...

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Madam Vinyl wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
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Madam Vinyl wrote:

"JL Grasso" wrote in message
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Is "chunder" like where you make a complete ass of yourself on usenet?

You are the authority on this kind of stuff, what do you say?

Ahhh Madam Vinyl! Killing with the point is _so_ much more
elegant than slashing with the blade.

Excuse me! Let me tell you, Jerry's not a stranger....we go back almost 5
years. My shoes are available for walking in...

Perfunctory apologies for my fox paws. May I try again?
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Madam Vinyl wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
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Madam Vinyl wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
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Madam Vinyl wrote:

"JL Grasso" wrote in message
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Is "chunder" like where you make a complete ass of yourself on
usenet?

You are the authority on this kind of stuff, what do you say?

Ahhh Madam Vinyl! Killing with the point is _so_ much more
elegant than slashing with the blade.

Excuse me! Let me tell you, Jerry's not a stranger....we go back almost
5
years. My shoes are available for walking in...

Perfunctory apologies for my fox paws. May I try again?

Oh please! I was about to turn in for the night! :)

LP (snuggling up ready to be read my bedtime story)

As you've clearly keep the corpse animated for so long, I presume
that your use of the point rather than the blade is necessity,
not just choice. Did you use funerary jars?
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"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

As you've clearly keep the corpse animated for so long, I presume
that your use of the point rather than the blade is necessity,
not just choice. Did you use funerary jars?

Well, I drank all of my beer waiting for Mooron, can't think of a worse faux
pas than that...

Now I will go invent myself into something no one knows......magic!

poof!

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Subject: Let there be Nav. Light
From: "Simple Simon"
Date: 07/26/2003 15:15 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: JMmdnZ4MQfMGYL-iRTvUrg@terranova.


LOL Let's see how many errors we can find!!!!

Now you have to resort to putting false words in my mouth.

I never said a sailboat should not slow down or even stop
if it heard fog signals dead ahead. What I said is a sailboat
does not have to slow down in a fog according to the Rules
when it does not hear a fog signal dead ahead on a collision
course.

"Wrong" EVERY VESSEL shall procede at a safe speed .... that means
sailboats too .... if safe speed is only 1knot then you need to slow
down if you are doing 6 knots.

Like I stated. Sailboats like mine already travel at a safe speed.
They cannot travel any faster than a safe speed. If they traveled
any slower they would lose maneuverability and that would
be, by definition, an unsafe speed. Safe speed cannot be
one knot because that would mean loss of maneuverability.


I said a sailboat is already meeting the definition of
going slow because as we all know there is rarely very much
wind in a fog

Not always true, so you have to consider the "prevailing
circumstances" (Been in zero visibility with 25k winds)

Even in twenty five knots of wind a sailboat like mine is still
constrained by her hull speed of around 6.7 knots and will
probably be going slower because of the necessity to reef
down sail area.

The only vessels that are required to slow down in a fog even
if they do not hear a fog signal on a collision course are motor
vessels sounding the signal for motor vessels.

"Wrong" .... G see above

Right, by definition any vessel that is already proceeding at
a safe speed is proceeding slowly enoug.

They are required
to slow down to a safe speed.

"Wrong" They are required to "Proceed at a Safe Speed" (here's an
area open to debate)

But, in order to proceed at a safe speed the must slow down, unlike
a sailboat that is already proceeding at a safe speed because it is
slow by definition.


Should they ever run into
a sailboat even if they were going two knots they would
be adjudicated to be going too fast for the conditions.

As would the sailboat, if it was underway, making way.

Not so because at some time the required lookout on the
bow of the motorvessel will have the sailboat in sight and
the minute that happens the motorboat is the give-way
vessel by definition of the in sight rules.



Vessels that sound other fog signals are higher up in the pecking
order so they are the stand-on vessel.

"Wrong" There is NO pecking order in fog and NO vessel is "stand-on"

You are wrong. The reason you are wrong is as stated immediately
above. At some time in sight rules will apply and the motor vessel
will be the give way vessel. It follows that if the motor vessel must
give way at any time then the motor vessel is the give way vessel.



Motor vessels
are required to stay clear the moment they hear a signal
of a vessel higher up in the pecking order.

"Wrong"...." Every Vessel" shall do what is necessary to avoid every
other vessel.

Wrong by virtue of the fact that some vessels cannot take such action
by definition. A NUC is a good example of this. That is the reason for
the different signal that tells the motor vessel to stay clear because
the NUC can not take action to do so herself.


You're full of ****.

Bertie
The written rules are 1 thing, everyday practice is another. It is obvious
this discussion does not take into account, A/C Carriers, Super Tankers, &
Over Size Container Ships.
I can just imagine the result of a "sloop" demanding "Right of Way" ,on the
open sea, from 1 of the class of vessels mentioned above when visibility is
1 mile or less.
Ralph Nesbitt
Professional FD/CFR/ARFF Type

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"Shen44" wrote

"Wrong" for many reasons. The person controlling the "bridge"
(assuming there is actualy someone on the bridge)
must have the vessel in sight.



as per usual.....I'm on a 900' ship in 600' of visibility.
The entire crew is down below playing cards and drinking rum.
You are approaching my bow...... guess who will see who first (assuming my
ship is a
"stemwinder" - house aft) .... you will, and you'd best do something to
avoid.


Why 'stemwinder'?

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they took a lot of pics of that floating cuban truck, also.

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katysails wrote:

I do. She's called Flying Tadpole II

We know. We know. But she looks weird. As we were rowing back in from
the mooring this afternoon, I looked back at
Chanteuse...she is such a pretty, pretty boat. And she sits there so
well (there are some boats out there that are DEFINITELY
of the hulky type persuaion). I lashed down the main sail cover and put
on a second safety tie on the furler for the storms
tonight. They're predicting some really heavy winds...it was gusting 25
when we left...
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The onset of alt.alien.vampires and Madam Vinyl has confused
you. Flying Tadpole II is a true gem, whether under sail or not,
a masterpiece of the designer's art, and a credit to her
builder. Far form looking weird, she lifts the romance in
evrybody's heart, and tugs the heartstrings of all seekers after
true beauty. Why, in her campaigning days, was she the most
photographed boat in those huge fleets? Cameras were just
automatically drawn to her style, her simplicity and her speed.

Lady Kate, however, can only offer a certain pugnacious charm in
her looks. Her multitude of virtues lie elsewhere. Don't confuse
the two.
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Geez, SnotVermin, do I gotta spell it out for you?

http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/mg1996.jpg

and Flying Tadpole's best sister, on which Mooron intends to ship

http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/haul3.jpg



Scott Vernon wrote:

they took a lot of pics of that floating cuban truck, also.

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
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katysails wrote:

I do. She's called Flying Tadpole II

We know. We know. But she looks weird. As we were rowing back in from
the mooring this afternoon, I looked back at
Chanteuse...she is such a pretty, pretty boat. And she sits there so
well (there are some boats out there that are DEFINITELY
of the hulky type persuaion). I lashed down the main sail cover and put
on a second safety tie on the furler for the storms
tonight. They're predicting some really heavy winds...it was gusting 25
when we left...
--

The onset of alt.alien.vampires and Madam Vinyl has confused
you. Flying Tadpole II is a true gem, whether under sail or not,
a masterpiece of the designer's art, and a credit to her
builder. Far form looking weird, she lifts the romance in
evrybody's heart, and tugs the heartstrings of all seekers after
true beauty. Why, in her campaigning days, was she the most
photographed boat in those huge fleets? Cameras were just
automatically drawn to her style, her simplicity and her speed.

Lady Kate, however, can only offer a certain pugnacious charm in
her looks. Her multitude of virtues lie elsewhere. Don't confuse
the two.
--
Flying Tadpole

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"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
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Geez, Scott Vernon, do I gotta spell it out for you?

Yes, it usualy helps.



http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/mg1996.jpg


I've said before it's a cool looking boat.


and Flying Tadpole's best sister, on which Mooron intends to ship

mooron...ship...????? Spell out please.



Scott Vernon wrote:

they took a lot of pics of that floating cuban truck, also.

only stating facts.