So you concur with Bob's technique of sailing with only the Genoa and
leaving the main secure and wrapped in it's cover?

This is just such a common sailing technique, used by every sailor (J-boats
need not apply) at one time or another. Why would Mooron question it?

RB

Basically when you sail it just makes sense to have all sails at the very
least ... immediately available.

I can have my main free of the cover and it's ties in less than 30 seconds.
Sadly, such a race will not enable me to fold the cover.

RB

That's odd.... with six snaps, a zipper, two ties on the cover and a 6
point flexible sail tie underneath... it takes me at least a minute to two
minutes to accomplish this and safely stow the cover and tie. Compound this
with having to leave the cockpit and the helm under way it would make for a
critical time load in an emergency...... considering there is no reason to
have this situation develop in the first place.

CM



"CANDChelp" wrote in message
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| Basically when you sail it just makes sense to have all sails at the very
| least ... immediately available.
|
| I can have my main free of the cover and it's ties in less than 30
seconds.
| Sadly, such a race will not enable me to fold the cover.
|
| RB

Compound this
with having to leave the cockpit and the helm under way it would make for a
critical time load in an emergency...

You forget that I'd be doing this sober.

RB

That's odd.... with six snaps, a zipper, two ties on the cover and a 6
point flexible sail tie underneath... it takes me at least a minute to two
minutes to accomplish this and safely stow the cover and tie.

Sounds like I'll be making TWO videos!!! Under 30 seconds!

RB

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
Basically when you sail it just makes sense to have all sails at the very
least ... immediately available.

I can have my main free of the cover and it's ties in less than 30
seconds.
Sadly, such a race will not enable me to fold the cover.

Really? 30 seconds? How long is your boom?

Post some photos!




Regards


Donal
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a vile troll replied:
Mooron asked:
So you concur with Bob's technique of sailing with only the Genoa
and
leaving the main secure and wrapped in it's cover?

This is just such a common sailing technique, used by every sailor (J-boats
need not apply) at one time or another. Why would Mooron question it?

I agree with the concept of being prepared for unplanned
eventualities; at least take the cover off and be ready to use it, if
needed. I also understand the intent behind comments about "balancing
the rig" but consider this from someone commenting on Hoyt's "delta"
setup...

"I once had a copy of a test on a Morgan 41' Out Island ketch where,
upon removing the mainsail, the boat lost only 1/2 knot of speed, but
cut its leeway in half (from 11 to 6 degrees). A staysail was then
rigged between the masts in place of the mainsail, and the boat gained
1 knot of speed while retaining its decreased leeway."

Obviously, "balancing the rig" implies that the rig is well designed
and performs best when main and jib are "balanced." This example
demonstrates that this particular boat (and I personally suspect many
others) does not "balance" as well in reality as one might suppose. In
point of fact, by eliminating the main the boat lost 1/2 knot but
halved its leeway. That sounds like a reasonable tradeoff to me. Then,
replacing the main with a staysail (essentially another jib, making it
somewhat simulate the "delta" rig) they kept the reduction in leeway
and gained a full knot.

Harrumph! Reduced leeway plus added speed. Hard to argue with that.

Frank

On 24 Jul 2003 12:01:41 -0700, (Frank and Ronnie Maier) wrote:

agree with the concept of being prepared for unplanned
eventualities; at least take the cover off and be ready to use it, if
needed. I also understand the intent behind comments about "balancing
the rig" but consider this from someone commenting on Hoyt's "delta"
setup...

"I once had a copy of a test on a Morgan 41' Out Island ketch where,
upon removing the mainsail,

But a ketch has three sails. Was the mizzen flying?

S/V Cat's Meow
http://www.catsmeow.org

used by every sailor (J-boats
need not apply) at one time or another. Why would Mooron question it?

Possibly because he knows the correct way to sail? Every sailor does not sail on the jib alone at some time or
another...sailboats are made to sail with main alone, not jib alone....

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

....sailboats are made to sail with main alone, not jib alone....

Katy, I'm afraid you're wrong about this. Many masthead boats will sail better
under a jib alone then main alone, especially upwind.

RB