So you concur with Bob's technique of sailing with only the Genoa and
leaving the main secure and wrapped in it's cover?

This is just such a common sailing technique, used by every sailor (J-boats
need not apply) at one time or another. Why would Mooron question it?

RB

Basically when you sail it just makes sense to have all sails at the very
least ... immediately available.

I can have my main free of the cover and it's ties in less than 30 seconds.
Sadly, such a race will not enable me to fold the cover.

RB

That's odd.... with six snaps, a zipper, two ties on the cover and a 6
point flexible sail tie underneath... it takes me at least a minute to two
minutes to accomplish this and safely stow the cover and tie. Compound this
with having to leave the cockpit and the helm under way it would make for a
critical time load in an emergency...... considering there is no reason to
have this situation develop in the first place.

CM



"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
| Basically when you sail it just makes sense to have all sails at the very
| least ... immediately available.
|
| I can have my main free of the cover and it's ties in less than 30
seconds.
| Sadly, such a race will not enable me to fold the cover.
|
| RB

That's odd.... with six snaps, a zipper, two ties on the cover and a 6
point flexible sail tie underneath... it takes me at least a minute to two
minutes to accomplish this and safely stow the cover and tie.

Sounds like I'll be making TWO videos!!! Under 30 seconds!

RB

Compound this
with having to leave the cockpit and the helm under way it would make for a
critical time load in an emergency...

You forget that I'd be doing this sober.

RB

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
Basically when you sail it just makes sense to have all sails at the very
least ... immediately available.

I can have my main free of the cover and it's ties in less than 30
seconds.
Sadly, such a race will not enable me to fold the cover.

Really? 30 seconds? How long is your boom?

Post some photos!




Regards


Donal
--

Yes, the proper yacht is designed with a bit
of weather helm under a balanced sailplan.



"Jack Dale" wrote in message news

Wouldn't this setup induce lee helm? I prefer a small amount of
weather helm.

Jack

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:53:06 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:

Yes, the proper yacht is designed with a bit
of weather helm under a balanced sailplan.


Agreed. But your earlier description with the C of E forward of the
CLR would induce lee helm. Weather helm is induced by keeping the C
of E aft of the CLR.

The problem with sailing under genoa, or any other headsail, only is
that it induces lee helm (C of E is forward of CLR).

Jack




"Jack Dale" wrote in message news

Wouldn't this setup induce lee helm? I prefer a small amount of
weather helm.

Jack

a vile troll replied:
Mooron asked:
So you concur with Bob's technique of sailing with only the Genoa
and
leaving the main secure and wrapped in it's cover?

This is just such a common sailing technique, used by every sailor (J-boats
need not apply) at one time or another. Why would Mooron question it?

I agree with the concept of being prepared for unplanned
eventualities; at least take the cover off and be ready to use it, if
needed. I also understand the intent behind comments about "balancing
the rig" but consider this from someone commenting on Hoyt's "delta"
setup...

"I once had a copy of a test on a Morgan 41' Out Island ketch where,
upon removing the mainsail, the boat lost only 1/2 knot of speed, but
cut its leeway in half (from 11 to 6 degrees). A staysail was then
rigged between the masts in place of the mainsail, and the boat gained
1 knot of speed while retaining its decreased leeway."

Obviously, "balancing the rig" implies that the rig is well designed
and performs best when main and jib are "balanced." This example
demonstrates that this particular boat (and I personally suspect many
others) does not "balance" as well in reality as one might suppose. In
point of fact, by eliminating the main the boat lost 1/2 knot but
halved its leeway. That sounds like a reasonable tradeoff to me. Then,
replacing the main with a staysail (essentially another jib, making it
somewhat simulate the "delta" rig) they kept the reduction in leeway
and gained a full knot.

Harrumph! Reduced leeway plus added speed. Hard to argue with that.

Frank

What's the engine go to do with it?

Cheers MC

Capt. Mooron wrote:
If some feel comfortable with proceeding on only one sail and leaving the
other firmly bagged, covered or secured in storage.... I would only
suppose they are secure that their engine is available and consider the
auxiliary a preferable solution to proper sail handling and set.