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Flying Tadpole July 25th 03 01:43 PM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
"A low blow", says Lady Kate the cat-yawl.

Jeff Morris wrote:

I'd have to side with Booby on this - I often sailed my Nonsuch on main alone.
--
-jeff www.sv-loki.com
If you can't say something nice, say something surrealistic. -Zippy

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
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-- Type "sailing under genoa alone" into google and you'll see MANY accounts of
sailors, long distance sailors flying the single genoa in a variety of
conditions

Just because people do it doersn't make it correct.

Just because a few people say otherwise, doesn't make it NOT correct.
It's common practice, by professional sailors in a variety of conditions.
Do a search if you don't believe it.

RB


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Intenost July 25th 03 02:13 PM

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Depends on the boat. For Solings, in heavy weather, they sail better under
headsail. Some people do this going downwind, to avoid accidentally jybing
the main if they don't feel like rigging a preventer, or dealing with
keeping a close eye on the main. It's not advisable unless you have a
fractional rig. Witha masthead rig you might put too much stress on the
mast/rigging without the mainsail to balance the load.

Inten Ost.

"katysails" wrote in message
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What's more is that I think you know this.

Nope, I don't know that at all. I have sailed now for a quarter of a

century and we have never sailed that way and never will
because it is worng. It is the tall mast/150% genny mentality found in

Catalina owners, most often afriad their boat is going
to heel...that has been my experience...Wind comes up, main comes

down...ooh ooh...the boat might tip. It's what Neal would
sanctimoniously claim to be "lybber" sailing or "woman sailing" even

though it's the guys who set the sails that way. We have a
light displacement boat...if we sailed on the head alone the boat would

not only waffle around but would also bury itself in the
waves...You need more experience, Bobby, and need to get out of the

weekend warrior mindset.

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein





katysails July 25th 03 11:53 PM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
Do a search if you don't believe it.


Anything is possible on the Intersnet. Read some good sailing texts...they say it's poor form. You'll probably want proof. I
would have to list at least a dozen tomes of sailing knowledge and you still wouldn't take heed because "The Internet agreed
with me".

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails July 25th 03 11:57 PM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
I suggest you burn your
mainsail.

I can't until we can afford to replace it and then I plan to do just that...

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Jeff Morris July 26th 03 12:15 AM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
It was a joke, Katy, a joke!

Actually, when I was using an Irwin 30, I sometimes sailed on jib alone. It had a huge
jib and a tiny main. I could pull out the jib in a few seconds, but the main was rigged
poorly and a pain to raise and furl. It also had a traveler across the cockpit that has
sent several people to the emergency room (never while I had it).

For reaching in open water the jib alone wasn't a bad option. However, I wouldn't do it
upwind because it was far too unbalanced to safely steer it. The bottom line, however,
is that the only reason jib-alone is a viable option at all is the poor design of the
main.

"katysails" wrote in message
...

I'd have to side with Booby on this - I often sailed my Nonsuch on main alone.

Uh, Jeff...that's not what we're talking about...sailboats are made to be balanced on

main alone...we're talking about foresail
alone....
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein





Horvath July 26th 03 11:38 PM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:55:07 -0400, "katysails"
wrote this crap:


I'd have to side with Booby on this - I often sailed my Nonsuch on main alone.


Um.... Is there any other way?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!

Simple Simon July 26th 03 11:43 PM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
Horvath wrote in :

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:55:07 -0400, "katysails"
wrote this crap:


I'd have to side with Booby on this - I often sailed my Nonsuch on
main alone.


Um.... Is there any other way?


Well, pretty much to be expected form someone as narrow minded as you..

Bertie

Simple Simon July 26th 03 11:46 PM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
Actually, it is quite rare for a Nonsuch to sail under main
alone. They are such slow, wallowing pigs that they
must usually sail with both main and iron jenny.


"Horvath" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:55:07 -0400, "katysails"
wrote this crap:


I'd have to side with Booby on this - I often sailed my Nonsuch on main alone.


Um.... Is there any other way?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!




Jeff Morris July 27th 03 02:33 AM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
Not true at all Neal, the Nonsuch may not be the fastest upwind, but it does quite well
off the wind - in fact its a rather fast boat for a 30 foot cruiser. Its PHRF is equal to
other 30's. such as a C&C, Hunter, Catalina, Beneteau. Since it doesn't do that well
upwind, it makes up for it downwind.

Even upwind, since its so easy to tack, there's no need to use an engine to work out of a
harbor. Truth be know, I use the engines more on the cat because its so tedious trying to
sail upwind out of Boston Harbor.



"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Actually, it is quite rare for a Nonsuch to sail under main
alone. They are such slow, wallowing pigs that they
must usually sail with both main and iron jenny.


"Horvath" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 18:55:07 -0400, "katysails"
wrote this crap:


I'd have to side with Booby on this - I often sailed my Nonsuch on main alone.


Um.... Is there any other way?




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!







Gerard Weatherby July 27th 03 08:37 PM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
On 24 Jul 2003 12:01:41 -0700, (Frank and Ronnie Maier) wrote:

agree with the concept of being prepared for unplanned
eventualities; at least take the cover off and be ready to use it, if
needed. I also understand the intent behind comments about "balancing
the rig" but consider this from someone commenting on Hoyt's "delta"
setup...

"I once had a copy of a test on a Morgan 41' Out Island ketch where,
upon removing the mainsail,


But a ketch has three sails. Was the mizzen flying?

S/V Cat's Meow
http://www.catsmeow.org


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