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CANDChelp July 25th 03 03:33 AM

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Catalina mentality....


ouch

Gay-Ganzy caught you in the zipper again?

Hoooh ahhh!

RB

katysails July 25th 03 04:24 AM

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What's more is that I think you know this.

Nope, I don't know that at all. I have sailed now for a quarter of a century and we have never sailed that way and never will
because it is worng. It is the tall mast/150% genny mentality found in Catalina owners, most often afriad their boat is going
to heel...that has been my experience...Wind comes up, main comes down...ooh ooh...the boat might tip. It's what Neal would
sanctimoniously claim to be "lybber" sailing or "woman sailing" even though it's the guys who set the sails that way. We have a
light displacement boat...if we sailed on the head alone the boat would not only waffle around but would also bury itself in the
waves...You need more experience, Bobby, and need to get out of the weekend warrior mindset.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



felton July 25th 03 04:53 AM

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 23:24:31 -0400, "katysails"
wrote:

What's more is that I think you know this.

Nope, I don't know that at all. I have sailed now for a quarter of a century and we have never sailed that way and never will
because it is worng. It is the tall mast/150% genny mentality found in Catalina owners, most often afriad their boat is going
to heel...that has been my experience...Wind comes up, main comes down...ooh ooh...the boat might tip. It's what Neal would
sanctimoniously claim to be "lybber" sailing or "woman sailing" even though it's the guys who set the sails that way. We have a
light displacement boat...if we sailed on the head alone the boat would not only waffle around but would also bury itself in the
waves...You need more experience, Bobby, and need to get out of the weekend warrior mindset.


You are so right about the "Catalina mindset'. They sell a LOT of
those things around here (North Texas), mostly to inexperienced folks
who think the ideal rig is a wing keel, tall rig and bigass headsail.
We usually have plenty of wind around here, except in the hottest part
of the summer and you can see those poor Catalina sailors either
motoring or motorsailing because they are way overcanvassed with those
big headsails. A really ugly sight. Then again, a friend bought a
new Catalina 36 in 2000 and purchased a smaller headsail for heavier
air conditions. Something along the lines of 85%, and then noticed
that the headsail tracks on the 36 are so far aft that there is no way
to use a smaller headsail without either adding or extending the
headsail track. A real "sailors" boat:(

I have sailed with main alone and headsail alone, but I recognize that
I am just being lazy when I do it. I wouldn't sail under headsail
alone unless I had forward and aft lowers. Some boats are less
sensitve to being sailed that way than others.

CANDChelp July 25th 03 11:49 AM

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sigh

Type "sailing under genoa alone" into google and you'll see MANY accounts of
sailors, long distance sailors flying the single genoa in a variety of
conditions.

Sorry. Case closed.

RB

CANDChelp July 25th 03 12:19 PM

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-- Type "sailing under genoa alone" into google and you'll see MANY accounts of
sailors, long distance sailors flying the single genoa in a variety of
conditions

Just because people do it doersn't make it correct.

Just because a few people say otherwise, doesn't make it NOT correct.
It's common practice, by professional sailors in a variety of conditions.
Do a search if you don't believe it.

RB

Simple Simon July 25th 03 01:02 PM

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Well said, Katy. This is difficult for me to admit but you
are making much more sense than Booby and I love
the "Catalina Tall Rig" comment. It hits the nail right
on the head. Maybe you are more of a sailor than I've
given you credit for being.


"katysails" wrote in message ...
What's more is that I think you know this.

Nope, I don't know that at all. I have sailed now for a quarter of a century and we have never sailed that way and never will
because it is worng. It is the tall mast/150% genny mentality found in Catalina owners, most often afriad their boat is going
to heel...that has been my experience...Wind comes up, main comes down...ooh ooh...the boat might tip. It's what Neal would
sanctimoniously claim to be "lybber" sailing or "woman sailing" even though it's the guys who set the sails that way. We have

a
light displacement boat...if we sailed on the head alone the boat would not only waffle around but would also bury itself in

the
waves...You need more experience, Bobby, and need to get out of the weekend warrior mindset.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein





Simple Simon July 25th 03 01:05 PM

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You are such a cad, Booby. If you flew an airplane I suppose
you would cut one wing off and claim it flew better that way.

Your argument is totally untenable and you know it. You just
enjoy making a fool out of yourself for the sake of trolling.


"CANDChelp" wrote in message ...
-- Type "sailing under genoa alone" into google and you'll see MANY accounts of
sailors, long distance sailors flying the single genoa in a variety of
conditions

Just because people do it doersn't make it correct.

Just because a few people say otherwise, doesn't make it NOT correct.
It's common practice, by professional sailors in a variety of conditions.
Do a search if you don't believe it.

RB




CANDChelp July 25th 03 01:15 PM

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You are such a cad, Booby. If you flew an airplane I suppose
you would cut one wing off and claim it flew better that way.

Cut the wing off a plane and it falls, killing the crew.
Fly a genoa alone and all is well in a variety of conditions. Why worry about
some pinhead who thinks you're sailing "wrong?" A real sailor does as he
pleases.
A dumb comparison from an even dumber guy on a awful Coronado 27!

RB

CANDChelp July 25th 03 01:17 PM

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It hits the nail right
on the head. Maybe you are more of a sailor than I've
given you credit for being.

Well, Katy. That proves I was right all along. I suggest you burn your
mainsail.

RB

Jeff Morris July 25th 03 01:34 PM

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I'd have to side with Booby on this - I often sailed my Nonsuch on main alone.
--
-jeff www.sv-loki.com
If you can't say something nice, say something surrealistic. -Zippy

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
-- Type "sailing under genoa alone" into google and you'll see MANY accounts of
sailors, long distance sailors flying the single genoa in a variety of
conditions

Just because people do it doersn't make it correct.

Just because a few people say otherwise, doesn't make it NOT correct.
It's common practice, by professional sailors in a variety of conditions.
Do a search if you don't believe it.

RB





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