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The_navigator© July 24th 03 11:42 PM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
Yes, that's you tell Sudzy right?

Cheers MC

CANDChelp wrote:
Sadly, such a race will not enable me to fold the cover.



Really? 30 seconds? How long is your boom?

It's a pretty short boom, but I could get most ANY cover off in 30 seconds. 30
seconds is a LONG time!

RB



The_navigator© July 24th 03 11:44 PM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
Unless the hull produces weather helm as it heels...

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
Agreed. In stronger winds this lee helm can be dangerous
because heading up might become impossible.

"Jack Dale" wrote in message ...

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:53:06 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:


Yes, the proper yacht is designed with a bit
of weather helm under a balanced sailplan.


Agreed. But your earlier description with the C of E forward of the
CLR would induce lee helm. Weather helm is induced by keeping the C
of E aft of the CLR.

The problem with sailing under genoa, or any other headsail, only is
that it induces lee helm (C of E is forward of CLR).

Jack




"Jack Dale" wrote in message ...

Wouldn't this setup induce lee helm? I prefer a small amount of
weather helm.

Jack





katysails July 25th 03 12:05 AM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
used by every sailor (J-boats
need not apply) at one time or another. Why would Mooron question it?

Possibly because he knows the correct way to sail? Every sailor does not sail on the jib alone at some time or
another...sailboats are made to sail with main alone, not jib alone....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Capt. Mooron July 25th 03 12:23 AM

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I didn't want you feeling left out of the discussion.... getting stuck
outside the harbour of discourse with a fouled prop, so to speak. I'm
considerate... It's my nature.

CM

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
| What's the engine go to do with it?
|
| Cheers MC
|
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
| If some feel comfortable with proceeding on only one sail and leaving
the
| other firmly bagged, covered or secured in storage.... I would only
| suppose they are secure that their engine is available and consider the
| auxiliary a preferable solution to proper sail handling and set.
|
|



CANDChelp July 25th 03 12:50 AM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
....sailboats are made to sail with main alone, not jib alone....

Katy, I'm afraid you're wrong about this. Many masthead boats will sail better
under a jib alone then main alone, especially upwind.

RB

The_navigator© July 25th 03 01:31 AM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
You can twist and turn but it's clear you are worried about sailing
being unreliable.

Cheers MC

Capt. Mooron wrote:
I didn't want you feeling left out of the discussion.... getting stuck
outside the harbour of discourse with a fouled prop, so to speak. I'm
considerate... It's my nature.

CM

"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
| What's the engine go to do with it?
|
| Cheers MC
|
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
| If some feel comfortable with proceeding on only one sail and leaving
the
| other firmly bagged, covered or secured in storage.... I would only
| suppose they are secure that their engine is available and consider the
| auxiliary a preferable solution to proper sail handling and set.
|
|




Capt. Mooron July 25th 03 02:28 AM

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Ha Ha Ha..... how perfectly odd coming from someone whose primary concern
was his inability to use the engine on his high performance sailing boat in
15 kt winds... because the folding prop was fouled!!!

[I'm hoping for a full report from Tonga to replace this well worn tire]

CM


"The_navigator©" wrote in message
...
| You can twist and turn but it's clear you are worried about sailing
| being unreliable.
|
| Cheers MC
|
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
| I didn't want you feeling left out of the discussion.... getting stuck
| outside the harbour of discourse with a fouled prop, so to speak. I'm
| considerate... It's my nature.
|
| CM
|
| "The_navigator©" wrote in message
| ...
| | What's the engine go to do with it?
| |
| | Cheers MC
| |
| | Capt. Mooron wrote:
| | If some feel comfortable with proceeding on only one sail and
leaving
| the
| | other firmly bagged, covered or secured in storage.... I would
only
| | suppose they are secure that their engine is available and consider
the
| | auxiliary a preferable solution to proper sail handling and set.
| |
| |
|
|
|



katysails July 25th 03 02:33 AM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
Katy, I'm afraid you're wrong about this. Many masthead boats will sail better
under a jib alone then main alone, especially upwind.

Catalina mentality....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



SkitchNYC July 25th 03 02:39 AM

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Katy, I'm afraid you're wrong about this. Many masthead boats will sail
better
under a jib alone then main alone, especially upwind.

Catalina mentality....


ouch

CANDChelp July 25th 03 03:32 AM

Sailing Under Genoa Alone
 
Katy, I'm afraid you're wrong about this. Many masthead boats will sail better
under a jib alone then main alone, especially upwind.

Catalina mentality....

Nope. Physics. Most cruising mastheads get most their drive from the headsail
when going upwind. With the main alone, you'll do poorly.
What's more is that I think you know this.

RB


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