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Peter Wiley July 23rd 03 07:01 AM

How Old?
 
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:52:36 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote:

4500 meters = 13,500 ft


OK, I'll give you that one. Momentary math error - ran out of fingers
converting from obsolete measurements to modern ones.

13,500' is high enough to be serious headache territory.

PDW



"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:19:42 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote:

Who said anything about me going to sea level?

The footrace starts at 4500 meters elevation. Your oxygen saturation will

be
about 65% at that altitude. You will be weak. You will get sick. I run
uphill at that elevation - with a pack on. I climb mountains solo in the
winter at that elevation. You will crumble! Your tummy will hurt! You'll
turn blue! Smoke plenty of dope and drink lots of beer, cuz it shows

you're
a man - especially at high altitudes!


Oh, bull****. I used to hike at over 8000' when I lived in Arizona.
Occasionally got a mild headache was all. The interesting bit was
looking at the plastic water bottle when I got back to Tucson, made
you realise just how thin the air was up there.

Now, if you're talking say 12000', different story.

PDW




Madam Vinyl July 23rd 03 07:40 AM

How Old?
 

"katysails" wrote:

Yes, but you didn't do it in your underwear so it doesn't count : )


So you don't care if the have money do you? It's all about the sex, right?

LP



Jonathan Ganz July 23rd 03 08:50 AM

How Old?
 
I didn't have any problem at Mauna Kea. I was at the top most
of the day into the evening.

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 01:52:36 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote:

4500 meters = 13,500 ft


OK, I'll give you that one. Momentary math error - ran out of fingers
converting from obsolete measurements to modern ones.

13,500' is high enough to be serious headache territory.

PDW



"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 23:19:42 GMT, "Gilligan"
wrote:

Who said anything about me going to sea level?

The footrace starts at 4500 meters elevation. Your oxygen saturation

will
be
about 65% at that altitude. You will be weak. You will get sick. I run
uphill at that elevation - with a pack on. I climb mountains solo in

the
winter at that elevation. You will crumble! Your tummy will hurt!

You'll
turn blue! Smoke plenty of dope and drink lots of beer, cuz it shows

you're
a man - especially at high altitudes!

Oh, bull****. I used to hike at over 8000' when I lived in Arizona.
Occasionally got a mild headache was all. The interesting bit was
looking at the plastic water bottle when I got back to Tucson, made
you realise just how thin the air was up there.

Now, if you're talking say 12000', different story.

PDW






katysails July 23rd 03 11:52 AM

How Old?
 

It's all about the sex

Oh, yes. All the guys here will certainly attest to that fact. Every single one of them. Especially Scotty. You must ask him
about our little adventures together.
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Simple Simon July 23rd 03 04:12 PM

How Old and what boat?
 
Good luck. Typical idiot it sounds like to me. Correctly
installed wind-ups are bad enough but to do them wrong
is indicative of a total fool.


"jlrogers" wrote in message . ..
We are down to negotiating who pays for the new jib (he's had it on the
roller backwards and its ruined).

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Sheet! I can SWIM a mile in ten minutes.

Whatever happened on the sailboat you were interested in?


"jlrogers" wrote in message

...
I can still run a mile in under 10 minutes. Can you?








SkitchNYC July 23rd 03 05:23 PM

How Old and what boat?
 
How does one even install a RF jib on the furler backwards? Cappy, I wouldn't
expect you to know because you've never come in contact with one.

Good luck. Typical idiot it sounds like to me. Correctly
installed wind-ups are bad enough but to do them wrong
is indicative of a total fool.


"jlrogers" wrote in message
...
We are down to negotiating who pays for the new jib (he's had it on the
roller backwards and its ruined).

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Sheet! I can SWIM a mile in ten minutes.

Whatever happened on the sailboat you were interested in?


"jlrogers" wrote in message

...
I can still run a mile in under 10 minutes. Can you?
















SkitchNYC July 23rd 03 07:19 PM

How Old and what boat?
 
In the case of the boats I have owned, I much prefer to use a
sacrificial furling cover that is white. The only downside is that it
is possible, upon rerigging things to have the sail furling in the
opposite direction than was intended, with the result being the
sacrificial cover is on the inside, where it doesn't do any good.
That is a harder mistake to make with the standard dark furling cover,
but fairly easy with a white one.


Please explain how this can be. It seems that it would require turning the
drum the wrong way or running the leach up the foil, both of which seem pretty
easy to avoid.

Jeff Morris July 23rd 03 07:30 PM

How Old and what boat?
 
Do some drums have a right way and wrong way? My Harken works both ways. From the
manual:

Tip: The position of the suncover on the sail determines the direction of rotation:
Suncover to starboard - "charge" by turning clockwise. Suncover to port - "charge" by
turning counter-clockwise.

It is possible that the feed angle for the line prefers one direction or another.


"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
...
In the case of the boats I have owned, I much prefer to use a
sacrificial furling cover that is white. The only downside is that it
is possible, upon rerigging things to have the sail furling in the
opposite direction than was intended, with the result being the
sacrificial cover is on the inside, where it doesn't do any good.
That is a harder mistake to make with the standard dark furling cover,
but fairly easy with a white one.


Please explain how this can be. It seems that it would require turning the
drum the wrong way or running the leach up the foil, both of which seem pretty
easy to avoid.




SkitchNYC July 23rd 03 07:41 PM

How Old and what boat?
 
Well, I guess it is possible, but since the sail is raised with the furling
line on the drum, this mixup would require the line to be pulled all the way
out and the drum wound back up the opposite way. Also not seemingly likely.
BTW, if "charge" means furl, I think your manual is wrong.

Do some drums have a right way and wrong way? My Harken works both ways.
From the
manual:

Tip: The position of the suncover on the sail determines the direction of
rotation:
Suncover to starboard - "charge" by turning clockwise. Suncover to port -
"charge" by
turning counter-clockwise.

It is possible that the feed angle for the line prefers one direction or
another.


"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
...
In the case of the boats I have owned, I much prefer to use a
sacrificial furling cover that is white. The only downside is that it
is possible, upon rerigging things to have the sail furling in the
opposite direction than was intended, with the result being the
sacrificial cover is on the inside, where it doesn't do any good.
That is a harder mistake to make with the standard dark furling cover,
but fairly easy with a white one.


Please explain how this can be. It seems that it would require turning the
drum the wrong way or running the leach up the foil, both of which seem

pretty
easy to avoid.












Jeff Morris July 23rd 03 08:10 PM

How Old and what boat?
 
"Charging" is winding up the line on the drum before the sail is raised. If charged
clockwise, the sail will be rolled counter-clockwise, so the cover should be to starboard.


"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
...
Well, I guess it is possible, but since the sail is raised with the furling
line on the drum, this mixup would require the line to be pulled all the way
out and the drum wound back up the opposite way. Also not seemingly likely.
BTW, if "charge" means furl, I think your manual is wrong.

Do some drums have a right way and wrong way? My Harken works both ways.
From the
manual:

Tip: The position of the suncover on the sail determines the direction of
rotation:
Suncover to starboard - "charge" by turning clockwise. Suncover to port -
"charge" by
turning counter-clockwise.

It is possible that the feed angle for the line prefers one direction or
another.


"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
...
In the case of the boats I have owned, I much prefer to use a
sacrificial furling cover that is white. The only downside is that it
is possible, upon rerigging things to have the sail furling in the
opposite direction than was intended, with the result being the
sacrificial cover is on the inside, where it doesn't do any good.
That is a harder mistake to make with the standard dark furling cover,
but fairly easy with a white one.

Please explain how this can be. It seems that it would require turning the
drum the wrong way or running the leach up the foil, both of which seem

pretty
easy to avoid.















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