"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
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"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message
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This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't
talking about Perez) Wow!

http://www.sailsea.org/

Be careful where you go to learn how to sail.


Shad O'Shay



Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew
the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard work.
He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder classes.
The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him at the
helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined
qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard,
selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of
ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't a
simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy. Jonathan
shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their standards. He
might do much better creating a new, competing non profit with iron clad
bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship. It won't be the
same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually can never be put
aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it will serve you well
in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has admitted them and
now he can use what he has learned to do much, much better. Anger and
resentment are based upon things of the past, hope and vigor are for the
future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine brightly upon all!

Admiral Momsen

Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been
drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there
wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength
LSD?

Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep
spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint you
to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff!

You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am
privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't
be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the non-profit
status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term "under the
table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web site and the
feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization wants rid of
a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only about its own
hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an F. Lee Bailey
type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody).

Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens
all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a
total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for
somebody else.

Wilbur Hubbard


Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the
possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on?
Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the
"beancounter" to go along? Naahh...


I can't say one way or the other due to the possibility of ongoing legal
issues. I sure don't wish to run afoul of any F. Lee Bailey types or the
FBI. Even barely competent, bottom-rungers like our Dapper Dave could cause
some small measure of grief.

You've got me to thinking with your observations above. Viewed in that
light, my prior observations do seem quite absurd.

As far as Gaynze operating a non-profit for personal gain, you're right,
that's ludicrous. Think, Wilbur, think! If a person could operate "anything"
for personal gain would he still be living at home with Mommy at close to
fifty years of age? Would he still have Mommy fighting all his legal battles
pro-bono? I think not. And, besides, with his documented history of 10X
strength LSD dropping he can get out of anything simply by using an insanity
plea. In this case, as in any other case, Gaynze can be nothing other than
the innocent victim. If he did happen to profit from a non-profit I'm sure
it was totally unintentional. I'm sure he "meant well" and isn't that what
really matters?

The more I ruminate upon the matter the more I think you might be right
about how there's no way Gaynze could do any wrong either intentionally or
unintentionally. The man is just way too intelligent for that to happen. Not
to mention the fact that he has impeccable moral standards. As usual,
though, it's way more likely that he's being implicated in a conspiracy for
the wrongdoings of people out to get him. So, Momsen, I stand corrected and
I offer my sincere apologies to the Capt. for not having my facts straight
at first and jumping to false conclusions. I've always been a sucker for a
good conspiracy theory.


I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It
was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him
overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back
into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted against
should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the plank!
Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records!


Agreed! One cannot argue with your many years of wisdom, Admiral. Keep up
the good work. You have restored my faith in humanity.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
...

"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message
...
This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't
talking about Perez) Wow!

http://www.sailsea.org/

Be careful where you go to learn how to sail.


Shad O'Shay



Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew
the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard
work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder
classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him
at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined
qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard,
selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of
ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't
a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy.
Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their
standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non profit
with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the ship.
It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges usually
can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high road, it
will serve you well in the long term. He may have made mistakes, he has
admitted them and now he can use what he has learned to do much, much
better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of the past, hope
and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward and may it shine
brightly upon all!

Admiral Momsen

Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been
drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there
wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X strength
LSD?

Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep
spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint
you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff!

You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am
privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't
be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the
non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the term
"under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with the web
site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the organization
wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability thinks only
about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been talking to an
F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody).

Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens
all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and a
total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are for
somebody else.

Wilbur Hubbard


Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the
possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on?
Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the
"beancounter" to go along? Naahh...


I can't say one way or the other due to the possibility of ongoing legal
issues. I sure don't wish to run afoul of any F. Lee Bailey types or the
FBI. Even barely competent, bottom-rungers like our Dapper Dave could
cause some small measure of grief.

You've got me to thinking with your observations above. Viewed in that
light, my prior observations do seem quite absurd.

As far as Gaynze operating a non-profit for personal gain, you're right,
that's ludicrous. Think, Wilbur, think! If a person could operate
"anything" for personal gain would he still be living at home with Mommy
at close to fifty years of age? Would he still have Mommy fighting all his
legal battles pro-bono? I think not. And, besides, with his documented
history of 10X strength LSD dropping he can get out of anything simply by
using an insanity plea. In this case, as in any other case, Gaynze can be
nothing other than the innocent victim. If he did happen to profit from a
non-profit I'm sure it was totally unintentional. I'm sure he "meant well"
and isn't that what really matters?

The more I ruminate upon the matter the more I think you might be right
about how there's no way Gaynze could do any wrong either intentionally or
unintentionally. The man is just way too intelligent for that to happen.
Not to mention the fact that he has impeccable moral standards. As usual,
though, it's way more likely that he's being implicated in a conspiracy
for the wrongdoings of people out to get him. So, Momsen, I stand
corrected and I offer my sincere apologies to the Capt. for not having my
facts straight at first and jumping to false conclusions. I've always been
a sucker for a good conspiracy theory.


I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It
was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him
overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back
into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted
against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the
plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records!


Agreed! One cannot argue with your many years of wisdom, Admiral. Keep up
the good work. You have restored my faith in humanity.

Wilbur Hubbard


Jonathan is an honorable man.

"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Charles Momsen" wrote in message
...

"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message
...
This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't
talking about Perez) Wow!

http://www.sailsea.org/

Be careful where you go to learn how to sail.


Shad O'Shay



Jonathan did a job no one else wanted (at no pay) for 5 years. He grew
the outfit in size and scope. Many people benefitted from his hard
work. He was the only one qualified to teach the larger and harder
classes. The non profit was nominated for a prestigious award with him
at the helm. He's got an MBA AND USCG captain's license, two combined
qualifications that are hard to find. It was HIS vision and HIS hard,
selfless work. Now that things are up and running smoothly a bunch of
ingrate wannabes wanted to take over and take over they did. It wasn't
a simple vote that got him outed, it was a deliberate conspiracy.
Jonathan shouldn't go back, he is only lowering himself to their
standards. He might do much better creating a new, competing non
profit with iron clad bylaws that don't allow others to commandeer the
ship. It won't be the same if he goes back, hurt feelings and grudges
usually can never be put aside. Be the better man and take the high
road, it will serve you well in the long term. He may have made
mistakes, he has admitted them and now he can use what he has learned
to do much, much better. Anger and resentment are based upon things of
the past, hope and vigor are for the future! Carry the torch forward
and may it shine brightly upon all!

Admiral Momsen

Good grief, Momsen, have you taken leave of your senses? Have you been
drinking the liberal Kool Aid? Have you been smoking some of that there
wacky tobaccy? Or perhaps you got ahold of some of Gaynze's 10X
strength LSD?

Get a grip on yourself, Admiral! Next thing you know, if you keep
spouting such nonsense, Obama will come schlepping around and appoint
you to head the Joint Chiefs of Staff!

You need to get a clue. There's some behind-the-scenes information I am
privy to which sheds an entirely new light upon this situation. I can't
be specific at this time but it concerns possible abuse of the
non-profit status of the organization by the fired member. Does the
term "under the table" mean anything to you? This whole episode with
the web site and the feuding is all about a cover-up. Of course the
organization wants rid of a possible huge liability but said liability
thinks only about its own hurt pride. I understand Perez has even been
talking to an F. Lee Bailey type (shhhhh! don't tell anybody).

Can you expand your rigid mind to encompass such a scenario? It happens
all the time. Usually greed is at the core of the misdoings. Greed and
a total disregard for the law. This is how liberals think - laws are
for somebody else.

Wilbur Hubbard


Are you saying he might have been outed because of corruption? That the
possibility of operating a non profit for personal benefit was going on?
Personal enurement? How could that happen? How would he get the
"beancounter" to go along? Naahh...


I can't say one way or the other due to the possibility of ongoing legal
issues. I sure don't wish to run afoul of any F. Lee Bailey types or the
FBI. Even barely competent, bottom-rungers like our Dapper Dave could
cause some small measure of grief.

You've got me to thinking with your observations above. Viewed in that
light, my prior observations do seem quite absurd.

As far as Gaynze operating a non-profit for personal gain, you're right,
that's ludicrous. Think, Wilbur, think! If a person could operate
"anything" for personal gain would he still be living at home with Mommy
at close to fifty years of age? Would he still have Mommy fighting all
his legal battles pro-bono? I think not. And, besides, with his
documented history of 10X strength LSD dropping he can get out of
anything simply by using an insanity plea. In this case, as in any other
case, Gaynze can be nothing other than the innocent victim. If he did
happen to profit from a non-profit I'm sure it was totally unintentional.
I'm sure he "meant well" and isn't that what really matters?

The more I ruminate upon the matter the more I think you might be right
about how there's no way Gaynze could do any wrong either intentionally
or unintentionally. The man is just way too intelligent for that to
happen. Not to mention the fact that he has impeccable moral standards.
As usual, though, it's way more likely that he's being implicated in a
conspiracy for the wrongdoings of people out to get him. So, Momsen, I
stand corrected and I offer my sincere apologies to the Capt. for not
having my facts straight at first and jumping to false conclusions. I've
always been a sucker for a good conspiracy theory.


I think Jonathan is telling the truth. It's just like he says it is. It
was a conspiracy and mutiny against him. The loser half wits tossed him
overboard to run the show. He should up the ante to get reinstated back
into his rightful and hard earned position. Those people who voted
against should be publicly flogged, keel hauled and made to walk the
plank! Jonathan, don't give up the ship or the financial records!


Agreed! One cannot argue with your many years of wisdom, Admiral. Keep up
the good work. You have restored my faith in humanity.

Wilbur Hubbard


Jonathan is an honorable man.


Check your spelling. The correct way to spell it is 'homosexual."

Wilbur Hubbard

"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message
...
This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't
talking about Perez) Wow!

http://www.sailsea.org/

Be careful where you go to learn how to sail.


Shad O'Shay



Awwwww!

Page not found. Maybe he got ashamed and took it down? Did anybody think to
archive it?

Wilbur Hubbard

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message
...
This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't
talking about Perez) Wow!

http://www.sailsea.org/

Be careful where you go to learn how to sail.


Shad O'Shay



Awwwww!

Page not found. Maybe he got ashamed and took it down? Did anybody think
to archive it?

Wilbur Hubbard


It's still there, you silly person.

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...
troll sh*t removed

It's still there, you silly person.



I'm telling you... you've got to remember who you're dealing with. Neal is a
known liar, a stalker, and a very angry guy. Ignoring him is the ticket.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
easolutions...
"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...
troll sh*t removed

It's still there, you silly person.



I'm telling you... you've got to remember who you're dealing with. Neal is
a known liar, a stalker, and a very angry guy. Ignoring him is the ticket.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




He's right!

But don't ignore this:

www.sailsea.org

No lies!

No stalking!

Absolutely no anger!

Jonathan is an honorable man.

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Shad O'Shay" wrote in message
...
This person sounds like a paranoid, revengeful nut case. (and I ain't
talking about Perez) Wow!

http://www.sailsea.org/

Be careful where you go to learn how to sail.


Shad O'Shay



Awwwww!

Page not found. Maybe he got ashamed and took it down? Did anybody think
to archive it?

Wilbur Hubbard


It's still there, you silly person.


It must have been the anonymous proxy I was using to access it. The proxy
must have been down temporarily. Did you know if you log onto
http://www.sailsea.org/ directly your IP number gets logged and the Gay One
then has a record he can access so he can harass your and/or your internet
service provider?

NEVER access any Gay One-run site unless through an anonymous proxy. I
insist upon using tested, high anonymous proxies, myself, just in case. Fool
me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on ME.

Wilbur Hubbard

"IanM" wrote in message
...
A.S.A *DROPPED* owing to kook factor there.
It must have been the anonymous proxy I was using to access it. The proxy
must have been down temporarily. Did you know if you log onto
http://www.sailsea.org/ directly your IP number gets logged and the Gay
One then has a record he can access so he can harass your and/or your
internet service provider?

NEVER access any Gay One-run site unless through an anonymous proxy. I
insist upon using tested, high anonymous proxies, myself, just in case.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on ME.

Wilbur Hubbard
So whats the big deal, Wilma? If JG was nuttier than you, he could port
knock my IP addy till he's blue in the face without getting anywhere. My
ISP wont act on unsubstantiated allegations either.

But they might well terminate your account if they kept receiving bogus but
valid-looking legal threats via e-mail. They just might decide your little
monthly payment wasn't worth the time they were having to spend defending
you, let alone the expense of threatened litigation. Jonathan's netcop
activities have gotten more than one person he disliked terminated from
their ISP. Do you recall one Capt. Mooron? He was one such victim and all he
did was repeatedly call the Gay One gay! Sadly, Capt. Mooron only had one
ISP available there in Canada in the rural area where he lived. So why take
chances? He's done it once so what makes you think he won't do it again? Do
a little checking on him and you will see he spends his entire life engaged
in this type of netcop activities. If it's not a neighborhood association
whining about power poles and substations, it's some whacko greenie
committee complaining about noise from low-flying airplanes on final
approach over some lake. He's a crybaby with a mother who does his lawyering
for him.

I continue to freely admit I live in London, UK and my IP addy wont
localise that any further. If I posted libellous material defaming him or
otherwise abused him on the groups he might attempt some sort of action
against me with cause, but I leave that sort of sh1t to yourself and your
virtual 'friends'. On the few occasions I've commented on a thread JG has
been participating in, he has always been perfectly civilized.

Oh grow up. The Gay One knows the following and he's none too bright. You
claim you're smart and you don't realize there comes a time when most any
ISP or NSP decides he or she's spending way too much time responding to
continued abuse complaints from anal-retentive types (and their buddies who
gang mail unknowing NSP) so the best solution for them is to lose the
offending customer even if the customer has done nothing illegal or against
the rules. Read most any NSP's AUP/TOS and you will see you sign all your
rights away when you accept the terms. Everything is up to interpretation.
It is far better to disallow a bunch of such bogus complaints to your ISP
especially. Make the fool write to your NSP but get a good one who knows the
Gay One's past history of flooding with bogus abuse complaints then he'll be
roundly ignored and laughed at for his antics.


I bet some NSA geek is ROTFLAO at your antics on one of the proxies they
have backdoored :-)

Not very likely. More likely it's the other way around.

Wilbur Hubbard