On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:43:42 +0100, JH
wrote:

Does anything ever happen in this group, or are you all down with Davy
Jones?

Discussion has migrated to url:http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk

"MatSav" m a t t h e w D O T s a v a g e A T d s l D O T p i p e x D OT c o
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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:43:42 +0100, JH
wrote:

Does anything ever happen in this group, or are you all down with Davy
Jones?

Discussion has migrated to url:http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk


The above fake little dialogue is designed to divert gullible usenet users
to a commercial page.

If you click on above link you will be bombarded with seven (!) adverts on
one page:

Shoreham Sea Kayaks



Bournemouth Canoes



Gene17 kayaking



White Water Consultancy



Aswatersports



Desperate Measures



And of course . UKRGB (T-Shirt available now!)



- Call me old fashioned, I like to decide for myself when it is time to
exchange opinions, share experiences etc. FOR FREE



and when it is time to study the ads and part with my cash.

"SatNav" wrote in message
...

"MatSav" m a t t h e w D O T s a v a g e A T d s l D O T p i p e x D OT c
o m wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:43:42 +0100, JH
wrote:

Does anything ever happen in this group, or are you all down with Davy
Jones?

Discussion has migrated to url:http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk


The above fake little dialogue is designed to divert gullible usenet users
to a commercial page.


How silly - it's not a commercial page at all - it's first and foremost a
users' forum set up when UKRBP got rather unwieldy

Keith

"SatNav" writes:

"MatSav" m a t t h e w D O T s a v a g e A T d s l D O T p i p e x D OT c o
m wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:43:42 +0100, JH
wrote:

Does anything ever happen in this group, or are you all down with Davy
Jones?

Discussion has migrated to url:http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk


The above fake little dialogue is designed to divert gullible usenet users
to a commercial page.

Bing! Wrong, UKRGB is a free site, with free discussion boards, and
free access to the river guides, which are contributed by the readership.

Ads and selling stuff like t-shirts are about the only ways to pay for
the, non-negligable, overheads of running a popular site like that, without
directly charging the end-users.

--
James jamesk[at]homeric[dot]co[dot]uk

"... sometimes I even sing." "I know, we got a petition." "For or against?"
"Based on the sound, they think we're torturing you in here."
G'Kar and Mr. Garibaldi B5

"Kegs" wrote in message
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"SatNav" writes:

"MatSav" m a t t h e w D O T s a v a g e A T d s l D O T p i p e x D OT
c o
m wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:43:42 +0100, JH
wrote:

Does anything ever happen in this group, or are you all down with Davy
Jones?

Discussion has migrated to url:http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk


The above fake little dialogue is designed to divert gullible usenet
users
to a commercial page.

Bing! Wrong, UKRGB is a free site, with free discussion boards, and
free access to the river guides, which are contributed by the readership.

Ads and selling stuff like t-shirts are about the only ways to pay for
the, non-negligable, overheads of running a popular site like that,
without
directly charging the end-users.


My point precisely, UKRGB depends on advertising revenue to keep going. You
know what happens when your website depends financially on someone?

Even if they don't overtly call the shots, you make sure you don't upset
them. Freedom of speech goes out the window etc. etc.

This by contrast is a free AND independent NG. I regret if people post
here, announcing that 'discussion has migrated' to a commercially funded web
site.

The motivation is obvious - adverts fetch more the more hits your site gets.

Keith Meredith wrote:

- it's first and foremost a
users' forum set up when UKRBP got rather unwieldy

Keith

Doesn't seem to be too unwiedly at the moment, and easier to use than
web based chat rooms too!

In message
(Keith) wrote:

Keith Meredith wrote:

- it's first and foremost a
users' forum set up when UKRBP got rather unwieldy

Keith

Doesn't seem to be too unwiedly at the moment, and easier to use than
web based chat rooms too!



It got too unwieldy when two individuals used it to endlessly post
derogatory messages, mainly about the BCU, and swamped all else. The users'
forum is controlled, so that doesn't happen.

It didn't bother me too much as I just set up some appropriate filters, but
others apparently didn't/couldn't get that to work, and departed.

Since I too don't like online forums, and prefer newsgroups, it doesn't get
any input from me, and I rarely can be troubled to go and see whether there
is anything. I can sympathise though.

(The big difference - newsgroups come to you, you have to go to forums.)

Alan

--
Alan Adams

http://www.nckc.org.uk/

In message
JH wrote:

On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 19:19:45 +0100, "SatNav" wrote:


"Kegs" wrote in message
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"SatNav" writes:

"MatSav" m a t t h e w D O T s a v a g e A T d s l D O T p i p e x D OT
c o
m wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 23:43:42 +0100, JH
wrote:

Does anything ever happen in this group, or are you all down with Davy
Jones?

Discussion has migrated to url:http://www.ukriversguidebook.co.uk


The above fake little dialogue is designed to divert gullible usenet
users
to a commercial page.

Bing! Wrong, UKRGB is a free site, with free discussion boards, and
free access to the river guides, which are contributed by the readership.

Ads and selling stuff like t-shirts are about the only ways to pay for
the, non-negligable, overheads of running a popular site like that,
without
directly charging the end-users.


My point precisely, UKRGB depends on advertising revenue to keep going. You
know what happens when your website depends financially on someone?

Even if they don't overtly call the shots, you make sure you don't upset
them. Freedom of speech goes out the window etc. etc.

This by contrast is a free AND independent NG. I regret if people post
here, announcing that 'discussion has migrated' to a commercially funded web
site.

The motivation is obvious - adverts fetch more the more hits your site gets.



Given the popularity (growing it seems to me) of "paddling", it seems
amazing that a newsgroup can be "killed" off by two individuals with a
point to prove.

Shame really, the moderators rule. (Again..)

J.

No, you misunderstand. The group is unmoderated, which was the cause of the
problem. When it was hijacked, there was no way to stop it, other than
leaving. The forum is moderated, hence hasn't been hijacked.


--
Alan Adams

http://www.nckc.org.uk/

Given the popularity (growing it seems to me) of "paddling", it seems
amazing that a newsgroup can be "killed" off by two individuals with a
point to prove.

Shame really, the moderators rule. (Again..)

J.

You had to be there....

Keith

My point precisely, UKRGB depends on advertising revenue to keep going.
You
know what happens when your website depends financially on someone?

Even if they don't overtly call the shots, you make sure you don't upset
them. Freedom of speech goes out the window etc. etc.


Do you have any evidence to support this claim re UKRGB? Do you have any
knowledge of the origins of the Guide Book or its founder?

Keith